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#227 Sep 03 2008 at 3:07 PM Rating: Decent
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"Women are scrutinized to a different degree than men. People are always worried about whether a woman is up to the job."
Bullsh*t, no-one EVER worried about whether Maggie could do the job, people might have hated what she did, but no-one and i mean NO-ONE said she wasn't up to the job.
#228 Sep 03 2008 at 3:11 PM Rating: Decent
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She's a speechwriter. Do you know who she is? You clearly seem to think she represents conservatives as a whole. I suspect


Again, we've talked about this already. Everything you post after those last two words turns out to be false, almost unerringly. You are, hands down, the absolute worst person I have ever seen at inductive reasoning. Your intuition sucks. If I were to place the wrong answer on 999 out of 1000 balls in a lottery machine, a random draw would right more often than you by a factor of 100.

Understand yet?


She's a speechwriter. Seriously. Do you actually think most speechwriters are that strong in terms of policy? They aren't. They just know how to put things down on paper in a way that makes the statements effective. DC is packed full of people who do PR work for one candidate or another, but don't have a clue or care about the actual positions involved.


There aren't that many McCain staffers in Washington at the moment. You're exaggerating.

Here's what happened: You had zero idea who she was, you looked her up on Wiki and paraphrased the parts that you thought might fit your argument.

What does wiki say about her:


Margaret Ellen Noonan on September 7, 1950, in Brooklyn, New York) is an author of seven books on politics, religion and culture, a weekly columnist for The Wall Street Journal, and was a primary speech writer and Special Assistant to President Ronald Reagan


Check.


In mid-August 2004, Noonan took a brief, unpaid leave from the Wall Street Journal to campaign for George W. Bush's reelection. Noonan has become increasingly critical of the administration since Bush's inaugural address in January 2005,[5][6] reflective possibly of schisms affecting the current-day U.S. conservative movement.


Check

Wow, you ignorant fucking clown, you barely bothered to change the words.

Must be Wednesday.

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#229 Sep 03 2008 at 4:20 PM Rating: Good
Might be Old News, but something I learned about Palin today:

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Palin admits to smoking marijuana as a youth, during the time when possesion was legal in Alaska, though she says she did not enjoy it.


BUT DID SHE INHALE?!!!

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- A private attorney is authorized to spend $95,000 of state money to defend her against accusations of abuse of power.


I bet Alaskans are thrilled.
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#230 Sep 03 2008 at 5:37 PM Rating: Decent
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Um... Smash. I just repeated what I said the last time her name came up in a thread where someone (possibly even you) was pulling the old "Even conservatives don't agree with <insert some Bush decision here>" argument. I don't remember the details, but I remember her name.

Point being that this is the second time her name has come up on this forum that I can recall. In both cases, she was being used in the same context. And in both cases, my response was pretty much the exact same. Um... It's not a hard pattern to see. She's one of those on paper conservatives that liberals love to pull out because they know she'll say something critical of the republican party, Bush, or whatever.




If I had asked you yesterday to list off the top 10 conservative pundits, the people who in your mind really make up the core of what it means to be a conservative, would her name have been on the list? How about top 20? Or top 50? Top 100? Probably not even then.

Yet magically she's indicative of the conservative view on Palin? You're kidding, right?



Edited, Sep 3rd 2008 6:35pm by gbaji
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#231 Sep 03 2008 at 5:38 PM Rating: Decent
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Um... Smash. I just repeated what I said the last time her name came up in a thread where someone (possibly even you) was pulling the old "Even conservatives don't agree with <insert some Bush decision here>" argument. I don't remember the details, but I remember her name.


Link it.

Um, lol, I'm not going to go and search for it, heh, but it's there, yup, I suspect I could find it, folks, heh. LOL!


http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=nFj&as_qdr=all&q=Noonan+site%3Aallakhazam.com&btnG=Search#hl=en&lr=&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=Ev3&as_qdr=all&q=Peggy+Noonan+site%3Aallakhazam.com&btnG=Search&nochrome=1

Hmmmmm....



You remember the name, huh?

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=nFj&as_qdr=all&q=Noonan+site%3Aallakhazam.com&btnG=Search#hl=en&lr=&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=xIj&as_qdr=all&q=%22Wall+Street+Journal%22+site%3Aallakhazam.com&btnG=Search&nochrome=1

check those, maybe someone referred to her by a nickname.

Just kidding, we both know you're just pretending. The Let's Pretend Party would expect nothing less. LET'S PRETEND I POSTED ABOUT THIS BEFORE!!



Edited, Sep 3rd 2008 9:41pm by Smasharoo
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#232 Sep 03 2008 at 5:43 PM Rating: Decent
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Smasharoo wrote:

Um... Smash. I just repeated what I said the last time her name came up in a thread where someone (possibly even you) was pulling the old "Even conservatives don't agree with <insert some Bush decision here>" argument. I don't remember the details, but I remember her name.


Link it.

Um, lol, I'm not going to go and search for it, heh, but it's there, yup, I suspect I could find it, folks, heh. LOL!




Since neither of us have premium, a search isn't easy in either case. I do remember her name from an earlier thread though. It's a unique enough name that I recognized it. You can choose not to believe me if you wish. Heck. You can choose to assume I just looked at her wiki entry. Um... Is there anything in there that's incorrect? What difference does it make?



All of this still doesn't change the fact that she's being used as though her opinion of Palin is typical of conservatives. I would argue that that's simply not the case at all. Now. If you can find me some evidence that Noonan actually represents some broad conservative viewpoint, then by all means go for it. But I somehow doubt you will...
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#233 Sep 03 2008 at 5:45 PM Rating: Excellent
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Since neither of us have premium, a search isn't easy in either case.
You could have just asked.

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#234 Sep 03 2008 at 5:47 PM Rating: Decent
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All of this still doesn't change the fact that she's being used as though her opinion of Palin is typical of conservatives. I would argue that that's simply not the case at all. Now. If you can find me some evidence that Noonan actually represents some broad conservative viewpoint, then by all means go for it. But I somehow doubt you will...


LET'S PRETEND I CARE ENOUGH TO BOTHER!

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#235 Sep 03 2008 at 6:47 PM Rating: Decent
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Jophiel wrote:
gbaji wrote:
Since neither of us have premium, a search isn't easy in either case.
You could have just asked.


/shrug

Strange. Could have sworn I'd run into her name having to do with a thread on this forum. Could have been elsewhere. In any case, I know I've seen her name in the context of a conservative writing or saying something critical of some Republican position or other. Certainly, she's hardly the barometer of conservative opinion that Smash seem to think she is.


Let's bottom line this Smash. Do you think there are more Democrats disappointed in Obama's choice of Biden, or Conservatives disappointed in McCain's choice of Palin. I'm betting the former. Biden doesn't balance the ticket. He fails to remove doubts by moderates about the ticket while weakening a number of key Obama positions.

Palin, on the other hand, strengthens the McCain candidacy a ton. She removes doubts among far right conservatives, but in a package that doesn't scare away moderates. She's about as far from a Washington insider as you can get, which makes the whole "Bush 3" argument fail miserably. She's also got a strong record fighting corruption. Despite some pretty desperate attempts to get the exact opposite view out there early and often, the truth is that she's about as "clean" a politician as you can possibly find.


That latter bit is the huge kicker here. When you contrast Obama and Palin, you see two relatively new politicians. But while Obama jumped right in bed with questionable political figures in order to further his career, Palin took the opposite approach. She fought against the political machine and managed to win. It's a bit hard to look at Obama's actions with Rezco and the Wood's foundation and then look over at how Palin specifically attacked that sort of self-interested political methodology and not see that one is really about "change", while the other is just the same old politics in a new wrapper.

The fact that she's a woman is really the least significant part of this. I think that's what's being grossly missed by most of you (although the attack squads do seem to know this, hence the innuendo about her and earmarks and firing her brother in law, etc). It's really not about the degree to which she influences the woman votes as Joph keeps harping on. That's one aspect, but the much bigger part is her own personality, history, and actions. She's the "change" in this election. Not Obama.


And it's pretty clear that the liberal machine knew this right off the bat. I've never seen such a fast and coordinated attack on a candidate like we've just seen. The kind of scrambling the left is doing right now can only mean that they know that if they don't get their version of Palin out first, she's going to sink them. They know this. They know that most of the people out there don't know who she is. So they figure they can paint an ugly picture and hope that no one watches her speech tonight, or pays attention to her biography, or listens to anyone saying anything good about her.

In short. They're scared. Really really scared.
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#236 Sep 03 2008 at 6:48 PM Rating: Decent
Watching her speech now. What superficial tripe, seriously. She is saying nothing at all of substance. Just giving us her life story and going for the easy applause in front of a friendly crowd.

Edit: Her Washington elite tangent was so awkward lmao.

This speech is horribly weak, I can't wait for October 2nd.

Edited, Sep 3rd 2008 10:46pm by DaimenKain

Edited, Sep 3rd 2008 10:48pm by DaimenKain
#237 Sep 03 2008 at 6:50 PM Rating: Decent
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Strange. Could have sworn I'd run into her name having to do with a thread on this forum.


I assure you, you lying about having stated something "months ago" is "strange" to no one.


Let's bottom line this Smash. Do you think there are more Democrats disappointed in Obama's choice of Biden, or Conservatives disappointed in McCain's choice of Palin.


Oh Democrats, without question. On the other hand, if Obama wins 80% of Democrats, he wins the election. If McCain wins 99% of Republicans, Obama wins the election.

See the difference?



Edited, Sep 3rd 2008 10:48pm by Smasharoo
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#238 Sep 03 2008 at 7:01 PM Rating: Decent
lmao now she's dissing Obama. She didn't really say "he's given great speeches....in front of devoted followers" did she?

This is her...what 2nd speech nationally? And in front of Republicans only? It's not a good idea to attack an opponent on the same issues where you fail yourself; but hey she's just a gal from a small town trying to help Americans!

Edit: LMAO now she's saying "nah let's not meet with the terrorist leaders and try for peace, they don't deserve any rights" etc...she is just horrible, thank you John McCain.

Edited, Sep 3rd 2008 10:58pm by DaimenKain

Edited, Sep 3rd 2008 10:59pm by DaimenKain
#239 Sep 03 2008 at 7:15 PM Rating: Decent
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This speech is horribly weak, I can't wait for October 2nd.


All that really needs to be said. Quite looking forward to that debate...
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