Out of curiosity, do you all get your kids vaccinated, and if so, do you do it early or wait 'til they're near school age?
There was an article on cnn.com this morning about measles outbreaks and how pediatricians are saying preventable infectious diseases are becoming more common in the U.S. because parents hesitate to vaccinate their kids.
I'm curious about what you all think. If you've discussed this until you're ready to vomit, just post a link to whatever parenting forum you've used.
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In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
We vaccinate. In fact, Jack got a needle yesterday.
For us, the risks involved with not vaccinating outweigh the other. Simple choice, really.
For us, the risks involved with not vaccinating outweigh the other. Simple choice, really.
What's bred in the bone will not out of the flesh.
Joph Jr. has all his shots. On schedule as well.
The Illinois school system annoyed me when it decided that a shot Jr. received in Indiana was a few months too early to count for his Illinois requirements. I spoke to his doctor about it and was assured that an additional booster wouldn't hurt him. And it didn't.
The Illinois school system annoyed me when it decided that a shot Jr. received in Indiana was a few months too early to count for his Illinois requirements. I spoke to his doctor about it and was assured that an additional booster wouldn't hurt him. And it didn't.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
It'd be criminally negligent not to vaccinate your child. Those parents who worry about the extremely remote chance of a bad reaction would be more likely to win the lottery than watching their kid turn into Igor, the Vaccinated Humpbacked Autistic Child.
Totem
Totem
Hannah's up to date on all her shots.
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― Neil Gaiman, The Sandman, Vol. 9: The Kindly Ones
Totem wrote:
It'd be criminally negligent not to vaccinate your child.
Uh-oh, here comes Ambrya!
What's bred in the bone will not out of the flesh.
What ToUtem said.
Herd Immunity only works if the majority of the peer group have been immunised.
A few years ago a fUcktard British medic (who was more interested in getting a paper published than bothering to learn comparitive research ) was approached by nutjobs who were convinced that their kids' autism &/or bowel disorder was brought on by the combined Measles, Mumps & Rubella (MMR) jab.
Although every credible medic & researcher has trashed his work, he caused a massive abstention from uptake of MMR vaccination. I would happily strangle the bastage.
So yeah, both of my kids had their shots as soon as advised.
Herd Immunity only works if the majority of the peer group have been immunised.
A few years ago a fUcktard British medic (who was more interested in getting a paper published than bothering to learn comparitive research ) was approached by nutjobs who were convinced that their kids' autism &/or bowel disorder was brought on by the combined Measles, Mumps & Rubella (MMR) jab.
Although every credible medic & researcher has trashed his work, he caused a massive abstention from uptake of MMR vaccination. I would happily strangle the bastage.
So yeah, both of my kids had their shots as soon as advised.
"I started out with nothin' and I still got most of it left" - Seasick Steve
Yeah, it's my firm belief that the chances of a bad reaction to a vaccination shot harming a child are far, far, FAR less than the chances of my child being harmed if they caught the infection the vaccination is intended to protect against.
I believe that bad reactions are possible, and can be devastating and permanently injuring. If it happened I would be devastated. But I would STILL think it would be morally negligent of me not to vaccinate.
I believe that bad reactions are possible, and can be devastating and permanently injuring. If it happened I would be devastated. But I would STILL think it would be morally negligent of me not to vaccinate.
I agree with Totem. (I can't believe I said that.)
A few years back I got whooping cough because my parents failed to get me the necessary booster when I was a teen. That is not a pleasant illness, and I can see why it would kill a kid under a year old. I was out of work for several weeks, and I'm incredibly relieved that the illness didn't infect any of the kids of my coworkers. (I apparently caught it when they were digging up the floorboards of our 150 year old office building.)
Four of the children that died last year were infants, who presumeably caught the illness from an older sibling who wasn't vaccinated.
A few years back I got whooping cough because my parents failed to get me the necessary booster when I was a teen. That is not a pleasant illness, and I can see why it would kill a kid under a year old. I was out of work for several weeks, and I'm incredibly relieved that the illness didn't infect any of the kids of my coworkers. (I apparently caught it when they were digging up the floorboards of our 150 year old office building.)
Four of the children that died last year were infants, who presumeably caught the illness from an older sibling who wasn't vaccinated.
Since moving down here, Ashes vaccinations are being delayed just a little bit, because the Pediatrician believes the immune systems handles the vaccinations much better by age 2 than prior. Im fine with that. I will be holding off on the chicken pox vaccine though, until he's ready for school, due to a horrible reaction Xavier had with it ( he ended up being hospitalized). My hope is that he will actually get Chicken Pox before school, thus eliminating the need for it.
I had a few of the common childhood diseases, including chicken pox, because my older brother brought them home from school. (My mom made sure we had plenty of contact in order to get those out of the way fast, haha.)
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
Look out guys, the Apocalypse is coming. Next thing you know you'll be going door-to-door handing out McCain political materials and itching to pull RTTs (return to target) on hapless VC caught in the open in your AH-1.
/snickers
Totem
/snickers
Totem
Wrong thread? Or what are you raving about?
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
No, I was refering to Cat, Sammy, who stated she couldn't believe she was agreeing with me, along with Nobs, who otherwise is an impartial observer of the fun-nay and superior dispenser of the same. After all, once you step foot on that slippery slope, who knows where you may end up? Toting signs pictured with mangled fetuses at abortion clinics? Staging pro-Bush rallies at Demoncratic party conventions*? Invading countries willy-nilly to pluck natural resources from the needy hands of the natives?
The enormity of that ghastly first step of agreeing with me cannot be understated, my dear.
Totem
spelling error is intentional
The enormity of that ghastly first step of agreeing with me cannot be understated, my dear.
Totem
spelling error is intentional
Nah, I've agreed with you before and I'm still sane.
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
No, I was refering to Cat, Sammy, who stated she couldn't believe she was agreeing with me, along with Nobs, who otherwise is an impartial observer of the fun-nay and superior dispenser of the same. After all, once you step foot on that slippery slope, who knows where you may end up? Toting signs pictured with mangled fetuses at abortion clinics? Staging pro-Bush rallies at Demoncratic party conventions*? Invading countries willy-nilly to pluck natural resources from the needy hands of the natives?
I don't want to shock you, ace, but mandatory preventive medical care isn't exactly a plank on your team's platform. I expect you to be in favor of socialized medicine within the next two weeks.
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I'm still on the fence about it. I can't imagine my daughter catching Polio if she missed a vaccination. I think that the immune system should get a good healthy workout before stuffing it full of "meds" but I'd need to more research on it before I'd commit to a stance.
Aripyanfar wrote:
Yeah, it's my firm belief that the chances of a bad reaction to a vaccination shot harming a child are far, far, FAR less than the chances of my child being harmed if they caught the infection the vaccination is intended to protect against.
Considering nowadays they (They being the geneticists that are super-smart) can do blood tests to make sure there isn't a reaction before the vaccination is administered.
Samira wrote:
I had a few of the common childhood diseases, including chicken pox, because my older brother brought them home from school.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
"I expect you to be in favor of socialized medicine within the next two weeks." --Smash
It's true. I've had an inexplicable urge to change citizenship to Canada as of late and count the months as they go by while I wait for lifesaving surgery. Does seal sinew help you heal as fast as cat gut?
Totem
It's true. I've had an inexplicable urge to change citizenship to Canada as of late and count the months as they go by while I wait for lifesaving surgery. Does seal sinew help you heal as fast as cat gut?
Totem
Tare wrote:
Totem wrote:
It'd be criminally negligent not to vaccinate your child.
Uh-oh, here comes Ambrya!
Nope. I've done this debate before here and I have no interest in doing it again, even if I did have the time.
In answer to the OP, I have not yet done any vax on Tristan. When he's two, we will start a limited vax schedule which will include a few that we consider to be crucial, such as polio, and will not include the ones we consider ridiculously unnecessary, such as Hep B and chicken pox (since we have a large circle of acquaintances with unvaxxed or partially vaxxed kids, the opportunity to expose Tristan to the chicken pox will undoubtedly come up soon, conferring more thorough and much longer-lasting immunity.)
The ones we do get will be a single dose at a time, spaced at least 6 weeks apart, so that there if there an adverse reaction, we will know exactly which vaccine was the problem.
And that is the end of my participation in this thread. If anyone wants to know why we've chosen to go this route, they can do their own research.
Edited, Aug 22nd 2008 10:41am by Ambrya
Kaelesh wrote:
I'm still on the fence about it. I can't imagine my daughter catching Polio if she missed a vaccination. I think that the immune system should get a good healthy workout before stuffing it full of "meds" but I'd need to more research on it before I'd commit to a stance.
Can you imagine your daughter getting measles? Measles are very contagious and while your kid may weather through a bout easy enough, everyone she spreads it too, may not.
My kids were vaccinated as recommended. They also had to have the meningitis vaccine for sports in high school and to live in dorms in college.
Alma wrote:
I lost my post
Yeah, we'll see how long you last when someone tosses your kid a small pox infected blanket, Amb. But by then it'll be too late. He'll look like Richard Belzer of Law & Order, SVU.
/tsk tsk
For shame, you neglectful mother, for shame!
Totem
/tsk tsk
For shame, you neglectful mother, for shame!
Totem
Ambrya wrote:
include a few that we consider to be crucial, such as polio
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Jophiel wrote:
Ambrya wrote:
include a few that we consider to be crucial, such as polio
The stopped vaccinating for small pox, they still vaccinate for polio.
the opportunity to expose Tristan to the chicken pox will undoubtedly come up soon, conferring more thorough and much longer-lasting immunity.
Yeah, or he'll die. Worth the risk.
You're such a terrible parent.
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To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
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