trickybeck wrote:
I have a hunch that a lot of the parents for whom non-spanking methods fail to work, are also parents that are trying to instill some sort of absurd religious or moral code into their kids.
Not saying that it's always the case, but I imagine that it's harder to reason with someone when you don't use reason yourself.
THis is also true in my case, my parents are both agnostics and I an atheist. My upbringing was about choices. I could have made the choice to be a little *******, my parents made sure I was aware of the consequences of my choice.
At 13, I was given the birds and the bees lecture. My mother pulled up pictures of victims, male and female, of various STD's. She showed me these pictures that still burn in my head to this day at 26 and said "This is what you are up against". She taught me how to use a condom on a banana, she told me what privileges I would lose, and how difficult life would be if I were to be a father not ready to be one. I'm still not a father, I still use condoms, and I get it. I know plenty of other guys who are my age and already have 12 year old children because they weren't taught properly, they didn't get it.
My parents wanted me to learn positive choice making and believed I wouldn't learn squat if they made every choice for me. Instead, they let me make my own decisions and I would suffer the consequences on my own. I knew it, I understood it, and I practice it. Which leads to me not being a criminal when all the dots lined up for me to be one.