Commander Annabella wrote:
Didn't Bush do the same thing, when he postured himself as a beltway outsider (even though his dad had been president) while also picking Darth Vader as a running mate?
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And Clinton with Gore.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Well, in WA, the Obama flags are still flying.
I think VP choices, in a very general way, mean squat to the average voter and serve a more functional purpose than a political one. Such as an attack dog.
I think VP choices, in a very general way, mean squat to the average voter and serve a more functional purpose than a political one. Such as an attack dog.
Allegory wrote:
Maybe. There's no way we'll ever be able to establish that. I think turnout, particularly youth turnout will be significantly depressed by Biden as VP, with no offsetting gain in moderate voters.
I wouldn't know about other demographics, but youth voters aren't going to be significantly affected by Biden. Younger voters tend to focus solely on the president; that is why they are completely ignored by congressmen.
I wouldn't know about other demographics, but youth voters aren't going to be significantly affected by Biden. Younger voters tend to focus solely on the president; that is why they are completely ignored by congressmen.
Hah! I've just figured out the next Obama slogan:
Vote Obama and whoever! The choice of people who don't pay much attention to politics, have never held a real job, don't have a mortgage, and are otherwise morons...
Admittedly, that may not fit on a bumper sticker...
King Nobby wrote:
More words please
You realize my statement also includes the Republican VP Gbaji?
You know, I mentioned Clinton and now that I think on it, I'm feeling better about it than I thought.
Clinton v Bush Sr was my first presidental election. I was in my 2nd year of college and we (myself and my circle) were all jazzed up about this young guy with exciting ideas, etc. Mind you, I was a lot less inclined to look into politics then as opposed to now so I didn't know who Gore was aside form "The guy who'd be VP if Clinton won."
In retrospect, I understand that Clinton picked the stoic wonk Gore to calm people worried about Clinton's youth, unimpressed by his experience ("Governor of Arkansas??") and all that. At the time, I couldn't have told you Thing One about Gore and didn't care -- we were excited about Clinton.
Clinton v Bush Sr was my first presidental election. I was in my 2nd year of college and we (myself and my circle) were all jazzed up about this young guy with exciting ideas, etc. Mind you, I was a lot less inclined to look into politics then as opposed to now so I didn't know who Gore was aside form "The guy who'd be VP if Clinton won."
In retrospect, I understand that Clinton picked the stoic wonk Gore to calm people worried about Clinton's youth, unimpressed by his experience ("Governor of Arkansas??") and all that. At the time, I couldn't have told you Thing One about Gore and didn't care -- we were excited about Clinton.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Also, during Bush I we were coming off a sucky recession where it was hard to get a job after college and Clinton seemed like a breath of fresh air. Of course, I'm really biased b/c I went to Hampshire College where a republican is rarer than an honest man in Washington, but still, we were enthusiastic about Clinton (even if he was still too close to the center).
But still, it's the economy, stupid, should be Obama's mantra. Biden be damned.
Edited, Aug 25th 2008 4:43pm by Annabella
But still, it's the economy, stupid, should be Obama's mantra. Biden be damned.
Edited, Aug 25th 2008 4:43pm by Annabella
Turin wrote:
Seriously, what the f*ck nature?
I've never gotten to vote for a successful presidential candidate :(
Nexa
Nexa
“It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes. But a half-wit remains a half-wit, and the emperor remains an emperor.â€
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― Neil Gaiman, The Sandman, Vol. 9: The Kindly Ones
Nexa wrote:
I've never gotten to vote for a successful presidential candidate :(
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Jophiel wrote:
Nexa wrote:
I've never gotten to vote for a successful presidential candidate :(
Wow! I did the same thing but it was Dukakis during my time.
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
Allegory wrote:
You realize my statement also includes the Republican VP Gbaji?
Well, yeah. I was just playing out the line of thought.
I agree that it's absurd to think that the "youth vote" is going to be significantly impacted by this. Although Biden certainly isn't going to get them excited, as you pointed out, they really don't care or know much about VP picks anyway. I just found it amusing to follow a line of thought in which Biden is an ok pick because even though the youth vote shouldn't like him much, they wont realize it... ;)
King Nobby wrote:
More words please
I agree that it's absurd to think that the "youth vote" is going to be significantly impacted by this
So that pretty much makes it guaranteed. Good to know.
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NaughtyWord wrote:
Well, in WA, the Obama flags are still flying.
I was just in Phoenix, AZ. They are flying there, too.
Jophiel wrote:
Nexa wrote:
I've never gotten to vote for a successful presidential candidate :(
Well, if 4th grade counts, I made like 25k on the stock market.
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I was gratified driving through Michigan last week to see that Obama signs outnumbered McCain signs by at least 10:1.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Smasharoo wrote:
I agree that it's absurd to think that the "youth vote" is going to be significantly impacted by this
So that pretty much makes it guaranteed. Good to know.
Fine. Young people won't support Obama because Biden is an old cootch. Better?
Lol... It's honestly the least significant problem with Biden either way. A non-issue IMO. The youth vote largely just blindly follows whatever they're told will make them appear to be "conscious". It's the older activist leaders and the political spin doctors who matter in this context. And they're going to have a hard time figuring out how to continue to keep hammering Obama's simplistic "Change" message in light of this VP pick.
I'm sure they'll come up with some more clever way to explain it all. But I think that many of the thinking voters out there are getting kinda tired of a constant stream of "explanations" coming from the Obama campaign.
King Nobby wrote:
More words please
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Thank you, Adlai.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
I'm sure they'll come up with some more clever way to explain it all. But I think that many of the thinking voters out there are getting kinda tired of a constant stream of "explanations" coming from the Obama campaign.
100% of "thinking" voters are already for Obama, so this isn't a big worry, frankly.
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To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
knoxsouthy wrote:
I don't remember much of actual grade school. I was interested in more important things like girls and sports. WTF is wrong with you people? What kind of pre-teens get involved with elections, especially national ones? Is there any doubt you people have been brainwashed. Carter was a coward, Slick willy a rapist, and now you've chosen someone who has close ties to terrorists (bill ayers). You support a candidate that supports infanticide of all things. I'm beginning to think satan himself could run on the Dem ticket and get your undying support.
You are an idiot.
I would point out the errors in virtually everything in that statement, but I'm well aware that you will blithely ignore trifling "facts" and "reality" if they happen to contradict your childish and moronic worldview.
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Slick willy a rapist
You can't rape the willing.
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knoxsouthy wrote:
Pull off the blinders Bastok.
Truly ironic, coming from you.
knoxsouthy wrote:
Ayers a known terrorist from the 60's helped finance Obamas house
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
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