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How proud are you to be an American?
Boomsticker wrote:
How proud are you to be an American?
On the internet, everyone is American.
Can't sleep, clown will eat me.
In what units do we measure pride, and how are they defined?
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Posted: Aug 17 2008 at 4:31 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I leave it an open-ended question. Thaughts and feelings you have about the country you live in. I won't trap you or even give an opinion about what you say after this post.
So you have no way of measuring. As such, its a meaningless question.
Not an American, but say you are born in America. How can you be proud of the fact that you were born in a place that you had no choice to be born in? It was accident of birth. You could have been born with AIDS in the heart of Africa, its just a matter of luck really.
Careful people, you're falling dangerously close to being called an agent of the typical lefty agenda.
Sticker, you need a catchphrase. Moral majority is taken already but I'm sure there are other options.
Edited, Aug 17th 2008 9:33pm by Pensive
Sticker, you need a catchphrase. Moral majority is taken already but I'm sure there are other options.
Edited, Aug 17th 2008 9:33pm by Pensive
My pride is in being a New Yorker. My shame is in being an American.
Hell, who am I kidding. I'm a young, white, male US citizen. The rest of the world can lick my shoes.
Hell, who am I kidding. I'm a young, white, male US citizen. The rest of the world can lick my shoes.
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
I admire the ideals contained in most of our Constitution.
I'm ashamed of the men who make and execute policy for the most part.
I'm not sure to what extent most folks differentiate between the two.
Edited, Aug 17th 2008 7:21pm by Barkingturtle
I'm ashamed of the men who make and execute policy for the most part.
I'm not sure to what extent most folks differentiate between the two.
Edited, Aug 17th 2008 7:21pm by Barkingturtle
I am so proud to be an American that my 10 year plan involves me moving to The Netherlands. I will give up my U.S. citizenship if necessary to achieve my goal.
I vote in every election be in local/state/federal. I respect and believe in the constitution. I would not die for my country.
I vote in every election be in local/state/federal. I respect and believe in the constitution. I would not die for my country.
If we had the money, we'd be moving to another country, most likely New Zealand.
Boomsticker wrote:
How proud are you to be an American?
Oh, About 50 pride-o-joules, you?
I am extremely proud to be an American and a citizen of the United States of America, for after all Mexicans, Canadians, and members of Native tribes are Americans as well.
"I may be a flag waver but I can't think of a better flag to wave." John Wayne.
“Our country right or wrong. When right, to be kept right; when wrong, to be put right.†Wi. Senator Carl Schurz Civil War veteran, German native expounding on Stephen Decatur's
" Our country! In her intercourse with foreign nations, may she always be in the right; but our country, right or wrong."
Edited, Aug 18th 2008 12:29am by Jonwin
"I may be a flag waver but I can't think of a better flag to wave." John Wayne.
“Our country right or wrong. When right, to be kept right; when wrong, to be put right.†Wi. Senator Carl Schurz Civil War veteran, German native expounding on Stephen Decatur's
" Our country! In her intercourse with foreign nations, may she always be in the right; but our country, right or wrong."
Edited, Aug 18th 2008 12:29am by Jonwin
I've never really thought that being born on one side or another of some arbitrarily drawn imaginary line was reason to be proud. As I grow older and I realize how woefully short of the ideals this country was founded on we have fallen, I find the idea of national pride rather quaint. And I'm not just referring to the current administration. We've simultaneously supported ruthless dictators while denouncing other governments for violating human rights. We are the ultimate hypocrites. Still, its better than Haiti, but all in all, that I was born here instead of there was just luck.
Edited, Aug 18th 2008 1:36am by Deathwysh
Edited, Aug 18th 2008 1:36am by Deathwysh
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If we had the money, we'd be moving to another country, most likely New Zealand.
I'll put the kettle on....
I got here with les sthan a $1000 in my pocket....just sayin'
"If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're gonna get selfish, ignorant leaders". Carlin.
And just to add, for the benifit of dropkicks like boomstick....
Hermann Goering said :
Naturally the common people don't want war; neither in Russia, nor in England, nor in America, nor in Germany. That is understood. But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.
I think you have a muddled idea of what patriotism actually is.
Hermann Goering said :
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Naturally the common people don't want war; neither in Russia, nor in England, nor in America, nor in Germany. That is understood. But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.
I think you have a muddled idea of what patriotism actually is.
"If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're gonna get selfish, ignorant leaders". Carlin.
I'm not sure how you can be "proud" of something bestowed on you by pure luck.
You can like your country, you can even love it when you're high or drunk, sure. You can enjoy the weather, the scenery, the culture. You can love the people, or respect some of the great actors of History your country has provided. You can cream yourself over democracy, or free-speech, or rejoice over the fact you weren't born in North Korea. You can love your country as much as you want to.
But pride? You're proud about something you've done, not something you were born with. We should all know by now that nationalism is last refuge of the scoundrel.
You can like your country, you can even love it when you're high or drunk, sure. You can enjoy the weather, the scenery, the culture. You can love the people, or respect some of the great actors of History your country has provided. You can cream yourself over democracy, or free-speech, or rejoice over the fact you weren't born in North Korea. You can love your country as much as you want to.
But pride? You're proud about something you've done, not something you were born with. We should all know by now that nationalism is last refuge of the scoundrel.
I am immensely proud to be an American.
I didn't even know about it until your post!
I didn't even know about it until your post!
oh, and here is the original thread (sorry, no coffee), but I answered the question in the ****** whiny followup thread instead. Call it art.
Nexa
Nexa
“It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes. But a half-wit remains a half-wit, and the emperor remains an emperor.â€
― Neil Gaiman, The Sandman, Vol. 9: The Kindly Ones
― Neil Gaiman, The Sandman, Vol. 9: The Kindly Ones
Just out of curiosity, Boomlette, are/were you proud enough to join the armed services?
Do you send extra money with your taxes to make America a better place?
Do you volunteer your time for those less fortunate?
"Pride" is one thing, action is another.
Do you send extra money with your taxes to make America a better place?
Do you volunteer your time for those less fortunate?
"Pride" is one thing, action is another.
remorajunbao wrote:
One day I'm going to fly to Canada and open the curtains in your office.
paulsol wrote:
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If we had the money, we'd be moving to another country, most likely New Zealand.
I'll put the kettle on....
I got here with les sthan a $1000 in my pocket....just sayin'
I think we'll have to see how this election goes. We were really seriously discussing it after the last presidential election, because we felt that there was just nothing left in the way this country is being governed that actually represents what we believe in, but we were waiting for me to finish my midwifery studies because then we would both qualify for the "skilled immigrant" status or whatever it is called that allows you to expedite getting your VISA (or whatever the NZ equivalent is) because you work in a field where they need more people. We were even corresponding with other New Zealand ex-pats about their experiences and getting advice. Then the baby happened and Mr. Ambrya started working on his Master's degree, and the plan just got put on hold.
New Zealand just really seems like the perfect country for us. Democratic, largely embracing ideals similar to those codified in the US Constitution, governed by people who actually give a rat's *** about those ideals, but just a smidge more socialist with regards to its approach to health care and social security. And I think the Maori are the coolest indigenous peoples anywhere ever.
PM me and tell me more about how you got established with that little money.
It depends on what kind of pride you're talking about. The strutting, scoffing, arrogance of a bantam rooster? No, I don't have that.
My grandmother was what we called house proud. Any stray speck of dust was ruthlessly hunted down. Coasters appeared under your drink even as you were setting it down. You could have eaten from her floors.
That's the kind of pride we need to have - the kind that despises slovenly thinking, pork barrel politics, crudely drawn and executed foreign policies, and the inane bully posturing of the bantam roosters among us.
Which kind do you have?
My grandmother was what we called house proud. Any stray speck of dust was ruthlessly hunted down. Coasters appeared under your drink even as you were setting it down. You could have eaten from her floors.
That's the kind of pride we need to have - the kind that despises slovenly thinking, pork barrel politics, crudely drawn and executed foreign policies, and the inane bully posturing of the bantam roosters among us.
Which kind do you have?
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
Samira wrote:
It depends on what kind of pride you're talking about. The strutting, scoffing, arrogance of a bantam rooster? No, I don't have that.
My grandmother was what we called house proud. Any stray speck of dust was ruthlessly hunted down. Coasters appeared under your drink even as you were setting it down. You could have eaten from her floors.
That's the kind of pride we need to have - the kind that despises slovenly thinking, pork barrel politics, crudely drawn and executed foreign policies, and the inane bully posturing of the bantam roosters among us.
Which kind do you have?
My grandmother was what we called house proud. Any stray speck of dust was ruthlessly hunted down. Coasters appeared under your drink even as you were setting it down. You could have eaten from her floors.
That's the kind of pride we need to have - the kind that despises slovenly thinking, pork barrel politics, crudely drawn and executed foreign policies, and the inane bully posturing of the bantam roosters among us.
Which kind do you have?
/swoon
Nexa
“It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes. But a half-wit remains a half-wit, and the emperor remains an emperor.â€
― Neil Gaiman, The Sandman, Vol. 9: The Kindly Ones
― Neil Gaiman, The Sandman, Vol. 9: The Kindly Ones
That's the kind of pride we need to have
OCD cleaning pride? Would we spend billions on the construction of 1900 foot long Swiffer?
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Smasharoo wrote:
That's the kind of pride we need to have
OCD cleaning pride? Would we spend billions on the construction of 1900 foot long Swiffer?
I may or may not have a prototype ready to go.
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
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