Well, this is going to be interesting.Follow

LOL. I should have said 3 hours before the school was considered safe. The point remains the same imo.

The point remains the same? That if teachers had guns, the victims would have been found sooner than 3 hours? Do the guns have corpse-finding radar?

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The point remains the same? That if teachers had guns, the victims would have been found sooner than 3 hours? Do the guns have corpse-finding radar?

I still await this challenge. The left is wrong on this and always has been.

Deadliest Mass Shootings (10 or more dead) in Western Democracies 1966-2002

The following data were prepared in the wake of the shooting in Erfurt, Germany, 26 April 2002.
In the 14 deadliest mass shootings committed in wealthy nations during the past 35 years:
*79% of the victims were shot with lawfully held firearms (185 of 233 victims)
*86% of these mass shooting (12 of 14) were committed by lawful gun owners

Many killers, like the 19-year-old who shot 16 people dead at his school in Germany, were previously law-abiding sporting shooters or pistol club members - men whose legal ownership of guns was not questioned by authorities until after the tragedy.

Date Place Dead Legal status

26 Apr 2002 Erfurt, Germany 16 + 1 Legal guns, pistol club member
27 Sep 2001 Zug, Switzerland 14 + 1 Legal guns, licensed pistol owner
29 Jul 1999 Atlanta, GA, USA 12 + 1 Legal guns, no licence required
20 Apr 1999 Littleton, CO, USA 13 + 2 Not legal guns
28 Apr 1996 Port Arthur, Australia 35 Legal guns*
13 Mar 1996 Dunblane, Scotland 17 + 1 Legal guns, pistol club member
16 Oct 1991 Killeen, TX, USA 23 + 1 Legal guns, no licence required
13 Nov 1990 Aramoana, New Zealand 13 + 1 Legal guns, licensed gun owner
18 Jun 1990 Jacksonville, FL, USA 9 + 1 Legal guns, no licence required
06 Dec 1989 Montreal, Canada 14 + 1 Legal guns, no licence required
19 Aug 1987 Hungerford, England 16 + 1 Legal guns, pistol club member
20 Aug 1986 Edmond, OK, USA 14 + 1 Legal guns, no licence required
18 Jul 1984 San Ysidro, CA, USA 21 + 1 Legal guns, no licence required
01 Aug 1966 Austin, TX, USA 16 + 1 Legal guns, no licence required



* Gunman had no gun licence and his possession and use of the guns was illegal

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This data has absolutely no apparent relationship to conceal and carry laws. Millions of people around the world legally own guns and do not have the right to legally carry and conceal them. The fact that a lawful gun owner snapped and went postal doesn't bear any relevance to the topic at hand unless you have further information on which percent of those listed above were licensed to carry a concealed handgun in public places.

Millions of people around the world can legally carry concealed weapons without a license to do so. Until you care to show that each of the local laws in all of the above incidents required a permit to carry concealed then your argument is invalid.

Guess what, the perpetrators of the above slaughters weren't convicted either. They either killed themselves or were gunned down by the authorities. And that too has no bearing on the argument. Don't quibble over the little sh*t. The point is that people who have the right to their guns are the ones that have committed the worst slaughters. And you want to bring that into our schools?

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Wrongfull shootings almost never occur by people with with conceal and carry permits.