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#1 Aug 14 2008 at 11:31 AM Rating: Excellent
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You have more than 42 half finished trucks on your lawn for decoration! Oh, wait, that's rednecks.

But no, really. If you own any Geforce 8xxx, 9xxx, or 2xx series video card, Nvidia released new drivers that enable the CUDA processor system onboard, and gives you a full Agiea Physx card on your video card. What this means in the short term? Not a whole heck of alot because most games don't support PhysX. yet. That was mostly because there were very few PhysX cards. Now there are many, so you should start seeing more mainstream games employing it. Especially since it is easy to implement. Nvidia.com for the updated driver, they have some neat demos there too.
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#2 Aug 14 2008 at 11:33 AM Rating: Excellent
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Cuda, huh? He finally arrived.

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God damn it. Part of my brain is tied up remembering "Norrathian Geographic!" instead of how to conjugate être.


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I downloaded the package that included the UT3 bonus maps and I'm not impressed with the performance. I have two 8800 GTS's in SLI mode and while I can play any regular map in UT3 at maxed out settings with no lag whatsoever any of the PhysX maps reduce the fps to single digits. Completely unplayable, even when I bring the resolution down to 1280x800 and turn off Framerate Smoothing. I hope it can be improved, I thought my cards were relatively powerful and should work for most games for a while at least.

I definitely don't want to pony up for a couple of G280's Smiley: frown
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But no, really. If you own any Geforce 8xxx, 9xxx, or 2xx series video card, Nvidia released new drivers that enable the CUDA processor system onboard

The .h264 encoding time difference is ******* preposterous on my 9800GTX.
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I still haven't upgraded past the 169 release on my 8800, because most of the games I play are more stable on it than the 175 or 177.
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Smasharoo wrote:


The .h264 encoding time difference is @#%^ing preposterous on my 9800GTX.


Bad ******* preposterous or good ******* preposterous?
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Dread Lörd Kaolian wrote:
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The .h264 encoding time difference is @#%^ing preposterous on my 9800GTX.


Bad @#%^ing preposterous or good @#%^ing preposterous?


That all depends on whether or not preposterous had consented to the whole thing.
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Bad @#%^ing preposterous or good @#%^ing preposterous?


From 84 minutes to 7.

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Smasharoo wrote:


Bad @#%^ing preposterous or good @#%^ing preposterous?


From 84 minutes to 7.



That much of a difference just from a driver?
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That much of a difference just from a driver?


Haha, no, no. That much difference offloading it to the GPU via cuda. Sorry, I should have been clearer.



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Thats pretty damned impressive.

I was running some dell T3400 midrange configurations trhough tests today, we have a few evaluation units in as potential cad workstations. we're going to put 9800 gtx's in them because they are cheap as hell right now and almost as fast as the 280 in most areas for CAD (because quadro's are overpriced **** in every respect)

Anyways, there was a respectable gain on Pcmark and 3dMark as well in the SM2 and SM3 categories, and graphics for PCmark. We also ended up taking the top spot online for Bently Benchmark's submitted scores, which was fun. Nothing we do at work is likely to take advantage of CUDA anytime soon unfortunatly.
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That much of a difference just from a driver?


Haha, no, no. That much difference offloading it to the GPU via cuda. Sorry, I should have been clearer.





Pardon my ignorance and all, but what about the GPU allows it to be so much faster at encoding than your computer's processor?
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I was running some dell T3400 midrange configurations trhough tests today, we have a few evaluation units in as potential cad workstations. we're going to put 9800 gtx's in them because they are cheap as hell right now and almost as fast as the 280 in most areas for CAD (because quadro's are overpriced sh*t in every respect)


I'll be honest, I could find out in short order I'm sure, but I don't understand workstation video cards very well. What's the advantage over gaming cards, memory bandwidth? Instruction sets?

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Pardon my ignorance and all, but what about the GPU allows it to be so much faster at encoding than your computer's processor?


It's huge like xbox. Actually it kinds of is, nVidia needs to get on a 2 series die shrink, but I digress.

The serious answer is parallel processing. Most things don't necessarily break up well to run in parallel, video encoding happens to chop up perfectly.
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Smasharoo wrote:

Pardon my ignorance and all, but what about the GPU allows it to be so much faster at encoding than your computer's processor?


It's huge like xbox. Actually it kinds of is, nVidia needs to get on a 2 series die shrink, but I digress.

The serious answer is parallel processing. Most things don't necessarily break up well to run in parallel, video encoding happens to chop up perfectly.


I learned something new today. I didn't know that GPUs were a bunch of processors running in parallel.
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#19 Aug 14 2008 at 6:43 PM Rating: Decent
ill wait till they get the kinks worked out of it enough for radeon to bother copying them, then buy the super stable radeon card that comes out of it in a year or two. who knows, mae by then there will actually be a game written that can actually use it.
sli/crossfire was a huge dissapointment, considering the tiny little gains for double the money. not even mentioning that city of heros is the only game out now even pretending they might impliment the coding for it.

kind of like the move from pci to agp....then back to pci. or raid. anything to keep the geeks spending cash.

anyone notice the factory heat sink for the amd quad core is preplumed for liquid cooling.....when it runs cooler than the last duo core in the series?

anything to keep the geeks spending money.

i played with g-force for the first 3 years EQ1 was out. got sick of buying a card just to have them launch the next in the series which is the same card with a few bugs worked out, just to have them launch the one after that that actually does most of the stuff they said the first card would do. every time EQ had a patch, i was surfing for a driver update to make it work again.

switched to radeon and never looked back. MABE i have to update the driver once a year. mabe. mostly plug and play.

and has anyone looked at the next wave of mmorpgs coming out? after conan, its all a step backwards in graphics. a few years backward. spellborne, warhammer, aeon, none of them will tax todays cards much les will they support sli which is so 3 years ago, or this new feature of g-force which is actually an OLD feature that they have just figured out how to make work.

graphic card technology is way ahead of gaming softwear right now. cept mabe for the console games. they seem to be progressing much faster than pc based games.
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sli/crossfire was a huge dissapointment, considering the tiny little gains for double the money. not even mentioning that city of heros is the only game out now even pretending they might impliment the coding for it.


It's like your in a time warp stuck in 2004. It's amazing, really.

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I'll be honest, I could find out in short order I'm sure, but I don't understand workstation video cards very well. What's the advantage over gaming cards, memory bandwidth? Instruction sets?



Almost no advantage whatsoever. Quadro cards are a standard geforce card with a few extra minor instruction sets on the processor. Nothing more. Same Ram, Same components, everything. (The quadro 3700 and the geforce 8800 gt are the exact same refernce board, right down to the resistors for example. ) For $400 more than the stock card, you get maybe 1 percent greater performance in certain operations. For example, in Bentley Microstation, the only improvement is in the Element Dynamics area, which has to do with objects in rotation about a central point, such as if you were copyign a CAD drawing of a radial engine cylendar around a circle to make a full radial engine drawing. Thats it really. You get far, far, far greater performance from just going and spending that $400 on a better gaming video card, processor, etc. Quadro cards are the biggest scam in the history of computer hardware. The sole exception being those 16 card GPU co processor boxes that Nvidia has. http://www.nvidia.com/page/quadroplex.html




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#22 Aug 14 2008 at 9:59 PM Rating: Excellent
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Smasharoo wrote:

sli/crossfire was a huge dissapointment, considering the tiny little gains for double the money. not even mentioning that city of heros is the only game out now even pretending they might impliment the coding for it.


It's like your in a time warp stuck in 2004. It's amazing, really.



I know! It would take skill to be so completely wrong on purpose. Watching him is like one of those idiot savants, except wiothout the savant part.
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I guess I'm SOL with my 7900...only off by 100 :(
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