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#27 Aug 13 2008 at 1:35 PM Rating: Default
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Jophiel wrote:
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Who cares if what McCain said matches what Wiki says.
Well, in thoery, the same people who cared that five seconds of Obama speech matched five seconds of Patrick's speech should care.


Um... So Democrats who wanted Clinton to win the primary? Honestly Joph. I'd never heard about this until you just mentioned it. No one on my side of the political aisle made any real note of it.

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As I said, I am DEEPLY disturbed that the Obama incident got constant mention from the mainstream media and this has gotten none. Never before have I seen such obvious bias for McCain and we should be deeply suspicious of what else the MSM is hiding to protect the senator from AZ.


Now you're just being silly. ;)

The one constant here is that the side making the silly argument is made up of Liberals. Maybe you should think about that. How many times have I said that Liberals care more about perception than reality? This is one of those times...

Edited, Aug 13th 2008 2:33pm by gbaji
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#28 Aug 13 2008 at 1:48 PM Rating: Decent
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No one on my side of the political aisle made any real note of it.


Hahahahahahahahaha. They talked about it for DAYS I SUSPECT someone with premium could search for you commenting on it.

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No one on my side of the political aisle made any real note of it.
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#30 Aug 13 2008 at 2:35 PM Rating: Decent
gbaji wrote:
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How many times have I said that Liberals care more about perception than reality? This is one of those times...

Edited, Aug 13th 2008 2:33pm by gbaji


Yeah conservatives never do this. I mean, Iraq really did have WMD amirite?
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The one constant here is that the side making the silly argument is made up of Liberals.
This from the guy who demanded to know why the media isn't chasing some largely made-up story you read in a 3rd rate blog. Bias!! Bias, I say!!!
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#32 Aug 13 2008 at 5:36 PM Rating: Default
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DaimenKain wrote:
gbaji wrote:
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How many times have I said that Liberals care more about perception than reality? This is one of those times...


Yeah conservatives never do this. I mean, Iraq really did have WMD amirite?


Lol! Um... You realize that's yet another "perception versus reality" argument from the Left, right?

Every single statement in this document is valid. That's the "reality" of why we went to war with Iraq.


I've already discussed many times at length my position on the whole "OMG! Iraq has WMDs!!!" issue.
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#33 Aug 13 2008 at 6:10 PM Rating: Default
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How many times have I said that Liberals care more about perception than reality? This is one of those times...




So, I guess it's reality that gay people don't have the same rights as straight people and not just a perception of conservatives?

Or it's reality that it's wrong to do stem cell research?

And aren't conservatives mainly religious and use the bible as a reasoning behind why some things are wrong? Since we're making broad generalizations here, isn't that fact alone enough to throw the whole "Liberals care more about perception than reality...much more than conservatives" thing out of whack?




#34 Aug 14 2008 at 5:00 AM Rating: Good
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Every single statement in this document is valid. That's the "reality" of why we went to war with Iraq.


I've already discussed many times at length my position on the whole "OMG! Iraq has WMDs!!!" issue.


"Valid" is a very relative term, to say the least.

Assumptions are "valid" too, especially those that are very hard to prove wrong in a short period of time or due to other factors.


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Whereas Iraq, in direct and flagrant violation of the cease-fire, attempted to thwart the efforts of weapons inspectors to identify and destroy Iraq's weapons of mass destruction stockpiles and development capabilities, which finally resulted in the withdrawal of inspectors from Iraq on October 31, 1998;


Blix would disagree with this. Actually, he did disagree, but was pretty much ignored, even if he's proven correct afterwards.

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Whereas Iraq both poses a continuing threat to the national security of the United States and international peace and security in the Persian Gulf region and remains in material and unacceptable breach of its international obligations by, among other things, continuing to possess and develop a significant chemical and biological weapons capability, actively seeking a nuclear weapons capability, and supporting and harboring terrorist organizations;


Many countries pose a continuing threat to the US and international peace, most of them are ignored till it's convenient to do otherwise.

Harboring terrorist organisations? Which ones?

Supporting I suppose you could state, Saddam did offer financial support to the families of the Palestinian suicide bombers. Not sure if they accepted it though.

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Whereas members of al Qaida, an organization bearing responsibility for attacks on the United States, its citizens, and interests, including the attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, are known to be in Iraq;



Really? Which ones? When? Isn't this confusing Iraq with Iran?

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Whereas the attacks on the United States of September 11, 2001 underscored the gravity of the threat posed by the acquisition of weapons of mass destruction by international terrorist organizations;



Irrelevant in the Iraq matter, the US would have to attack dozens of countries if this were important.

#35 Aug 14 2008 at 5:26 AM Rating: Decent
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I've already discussed many times at length my position on the whole "OMG! Iraq has WMDs!!!" issue.


Which was really a giant waste of time, as we knew exactly what it was as soon as Rush told you.

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#36 Aug 14 2008 at 5:37 AM Rating: Excellent
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Again, just so we're clear: if we were really concerned with nations that harbor and abet terrorists we would have gone after our good friend Saudi Arabia many times over.

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#37 Aug 14 2008 at 6:42 AM Rating: Decent
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Again, just so we're clear: if we were really concerned with nations that harbor and abet terrorists we would have gone after our good friend Saudi Arabia many times over.


We cant do that! I mean...that wouldn't be two-faced. It's not like that's the reason why terrorists hate us, not because "ZOMG THEYS HATE DEMOCRACY AND FREEDOM". Also, shouldn't we go to war with ourselves, since we help Israeli terrorists kill Palestinians?

And since horrible dictators are evil and democracy needs to be spread; why aren't we involved in a war with any African nations?

Oh wait...no money in that......kinda like how we condemn Cuba for Communism, but don't do the same to China because we know that we shouldn't @#%^ with China.

And why aren't we at war with Iran anyway? Don't we have just as much anecdotal proof that they're pretty much the same as Iraq pre-2003?

Edited, Aug 14th 2008 10:40am by DaimenKain
#38 Aug 14 2008 at 6:43 AM Rating: Decent
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Samira wrote:
Again, just so we're clear: if we were really concerned with nations that harbor and abet terrorists we would have gone after our good friend Saudi Arabia many times over.


We cant do that! I mean...that wouldn't be two-faced. It's not like that's the reason why terrorists hate us, not because "ZOMG THEYS HATE DEMOCRACY AND FREEDOM". Also, see: Hypocrisy of Israel.

And since horrible dictators are evil and democracy needs to be spread; why aren't we involved in a war with any African nations?

Oh wait...no money in that......kinda like how we condemn Cuba for Communism, but don't do the same to China because we know that we shouldn't @#%^ with China.

And why aren't we at war with Iran anyway? Don't we have just as much anecdotal proof that they're pretty much the same as Iraq pre-2003?


Don't be an idiot. It's about priorities and nothing else. Believe it or not, terrorism is not always at the top of the list, and neither is communism.
#39 Aug 14 2008 at 6:45 AM Rating: Decent
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Don't be an idiot. It's about priorities and nothing else. Believe it or not, terrorism is not always at the top of the list, and neither is communism.


Yeah, I know and the 1st priority is making money and gaining power, not destroying terrorism or spreading democracy...which is my point, sooooooo thanks for agreeing with me?
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