Omegavegeta wrote:
Legalize it, tax the hell out of it, use it to win the next war in Afghanistan.
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ftfy...nothing like a sharing a doob to settle ones differences.
Alma wrote:
I lost my post
Elinda wrote:
No one mentioned the slippery slope argument?
Legalize dope and way is paved to legalized cocaine, herion, shrooms. Lordy lordy we be sinners..
Legalize dope and way is paved to legalized cocaine, herion, shrooms. Lordy lordy we be sinners..
That's just propaganda that the tobacco/alcohol owned politicians want you to believe. Legalizing weed isn't gonna suddenly make heroin or cocaine legal anytime soon.
You could say the same about alcohol...keep it legal and you're paving the way to legalize other drugs, so let's make it illegal too?
Debalic wrote:
How do they tax something you can grow yourself?
If marijuana was legal, there's absolutely no doubt in my mind that home-growers would be in the distinct minority and the majority of smokers would be buying Phillips Morris or RJ Renyolds branded weed at the local 7-11. Hey, a home-made hamburger is cheaper and tastier than one from McDonald's but McD's still manages to sell a bajillion of 'em. People are just lazy.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Jophiel wrote:
Debalic wrote:
How do they tax something you can grow yourself?
If marijuana was legal, there's absolutely no doubt in my mind that home-growers would be in the distinct minority and the majority of smokers would be buying Phillips Morris or RJ Renyolds branded weed at the local 7-11. Hey, a home-made hamburger is cheaper and tastier than one from McDonald's but McD's still manages to sell a bajillion of 'em. People are just lazy.
It's true. It's way cheaper to even just roll your own cigarettes but most people can't be bothered to even do that.
Nexa
“It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes. But a half-wit remains a half-wit, and the emperor remains an emperor.â€
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― Neil Gaiman, The Sandman, Vol. 9: The Kindly Ones
If marijuana was legal, there's absolutely no doubt in my mind that home-growers would be in the distinct minority and the majority of smokers would be buying Phillips Morris or RJ Renyolds branded weed at the local 7-11.
I tend to doubt it. While tobacco companies obviously have the technology to cheaply produce brands, (and brands already trademarked) the initial tax burden would, I suspect be massive.
Also there's a difference in scale. It's rare for someone to smoke the same quantities as they would of tobacco. If I could easily grow tobacco in sufficient quantities to not have to pay $7 a pack for smokes, I'd do it tomorrow.
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Jophiel wrote:
Debalic wrote:
How do they tax something you can grow yourself?
If marijuana was legal, there's absolutely no doubt in my mind that home-growers would be in the distinct minority and the majority of smokers would be buying Phillips Morris or RJ Renyolds branded weed at the local 7-11. Hey, a home-made hamburger is cheaper and tastier than one from McDonald's but McD's still manages to sell a bajillion of 'em. People are just lazy.
Yeah, I mean look how many people are extremely addicted to tobacco and coffee, but how many home tobacco/coffee farms are there?
Would there be some people who would grow it themselves? Yeah, but not enough to put much of a dent in the tax revenue. This is just another example of Puritanical values from the 1600s existing in this day in age.
It's obvious that weed is much less dangerous/addictive than alcohol is, but because most people have been brainwashed into thinking it's evil, it's illegal. I mean, seriously, what does weed do to harm you that alcohol doesn't? Lung Cancer, that's about it, but then why are cigarettes legal? It's really ridiculous.
Smasharoo wrote:
If I could easily grow tobacco in sufficient quantities to not have to pay $7 a pack for smokes, I'd do it tomorrow.
"Easily" being the key word. I still think that the majority wouldn't find growing it to fall under the definition of "easy" enough. People would even pay extra to not have to roll them themselves.
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― Neil Gaiman, The Sandman, Vol. 9: The Kindly Ones
DaimenKain wrote:
It's obvious that weed is much less dangerous/addictive than alcohol is,
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An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come. Victor Hugo
An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come. Victor Hugo
Nexa wrote:
People would even pay extra to not have to roll them themselves.
Nexa
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If it were legal, I would grow more than I already do.
Of course, I've also been rolling my own cigarettes for the past eight years, which should give you an idea as to the depths of my thriftiness.
Of course, I've also been rolling my own cigarettes for the past eight years, which should give you an idea as to the depths of my thriftiness.
Smasharoo wrote:
I tend to doubt it.
I don't doubt that folks would have the best of intentions for home growing. The first time they want some weed and it's not readily available for whatever reason, they'll pop down to the gas station, pay some fairly nominal charge for one or two joints and think "That was easy".
Even at $7 a pack, that's only thirty-five cents a cigarette. As you say, people don't smoke 20 joints a day. Paying out a buck a day in weed would seem a bargin.
Belkira wrote:
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Uglysasquatch, Mercenary Major wrote:
DaimenKain wrote:
It's obvious that weed is much less dangerous/addictive than alcohol is,
I highly doubt that the "well it's hard to test people to see if they're high, so we shouldn't legalize it" argument has ever been used.
DaimenKain wrote:
I highly doubt that the "well it's hard to test people to see if they're high, so we shouldn't legalize it" argument has ever been used.
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An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come. Victor Hugo
You have too much faith in people
Yeah, I get that a lot.
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Posted: Aug 13 2008 at 10:38 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) They call it DOPE for a reason.
Boomsticker wrote:
They call it DOPE for a reason.
Alma wrote:
I lost my post
They call it DOPE for a reason.
Heroin? Sure.
No one's called marijuana "dope" since the 30s.
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marijuana is bad for you
It is bad for you. That's why you use a vaporizer to smoke it. It tastes delicious, or so I am told. I currently cannot afford any since my money is all spoken for.
Well they call it pot for a reason, right?
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No one's called marijuana "dope" since the 30s.
Not true. Maybe it's not called DOPE by YOU but its still used today by some. Where do you think the phrase "thats dope" came from?
Where do you think the phrase "thats dope" came from?
Dutch.
See, I actually know where it came from, so this asking ignorant questions hoping the other person doesn't know isn't going to be very very effective.
ETA: I was considering explaining it to you, but realized how close to impossible that would be with your attention span and intelligence.
So here's a Russian woman with a huge rack to do it, instead:
http://www.hotforwords.com/2008/02/01/thats-dope/
Edited, Aug 13th 2008 2:53pm by Smasharoo
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Smasharoo wrote:
They call it DOPE for a reason.
Heroin? Sure.
No one's called marijuana "dope" since the 30s.
Not true. They called it that in Northern Maine in the 80s.
Yes, I know, shut up.
Turin wrote:
Seriously, what the f*ck nature?
They called it that in Northern Maine in the 80s.
Given the 50 year cultural time lapse between the rest of the world and The County, that seems to confirm my earlier statement.
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Smasharoo wrote:
They called it that in Northern Maine in the 80s.
Given the 50 year cultural time lapse between the rest of the world and The County, that seems to confirm my earlier statement.
I KNOW.
Gawd. We were so behind the times that we called the Projects, the Housings. Edited, Aug 13th 2008 2:59pm by Annabella
Turin wrote:
Seriously, what the f*ck nature?
Boomsticker wrote:
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Question: Why are Alcohol and Tobacco legal but Marijuana isn't? Doesn't really make sense to me. Every argument I've heard against marijuana apply equally, or even more so, to alcohol and/or tobacco.
So, why the hypocrisy? I guess alcohol and tobacco companies just got lucky for getting in on the ground floor in this country, or their supporters have just had more money to give to politicians over the years
So, why the hypocrisy? I guess alcohol and tobacco companies just got lucky for getting in on the ground floor in this country, or their supporters have just had more money to give to politicians over the years
They call it DOPE for a reason.
Well, Mr. Genius, just tell me how (outside of legality)it has more of a negative impact on someone's life than alcohol or tobacco?
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