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#53 Aug 11 2008 at 6:05 AM Rating: Good
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Our poor have more than most other nations upper middle classes.


No, they don't.

But hey, don't let facts get in the way of your patriotism.
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#55 Aug 11 2008 at 7:28 AM Rating: Excellent
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I believe it was the "most other nations' upper middle class" part that was, well, blatantly wrong.

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#57 Aug 11 2008 at 7:44 AM Rating: Excellent
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knoxsouthy wrote:
Samy,

I'm curious what your definition of upper-middle class is?



It's relative to the population, of course. Brazil's upper-middle class will be a little different than Italy's, but both will be significantly better off than trailer trash in the Ozarks. Materially, socially, intellectually - by just about any measure you care to use.

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#58 Aug 11 2008 at 7:46 AM Rating: Good
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Materially, socially, intellectually - by just about any measure you care to use.

So you're saying he'll never attain it.
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#59 Aug 11 2008 at 7:47 AM Rating: Good
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Samy,

I'm curious what your definition of upper-middle class is?


It's the guys that are richer than the middle-class, you dimwit.

If the poor in the US can't afford "plumbing, food, and central heat and air" without help from the government, then it's pretty obvious that the upper-middle classes in other countries are richer than them. Want a list of countries where the upper-middle class live in relative luxury?
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knoxsouthy wrote:
Ugly,

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So you're saying he'll never attain it.


I wouldn't want you to feel alone in your ignorance would I?

Ah, but we'll never be on the same level. Financially and socially, I'll always be well off and intellectually, I've got at least you beaten.
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#64 Aug 11 2008 at 8:16 AM Rating: Good
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What does socially mean? Does that mean you actually care what others think about you or something?
No, it just means I'm more well liked than you, anywhere I go. It means I can walk into any room and fit in with any group. You, can't.

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Financially; now that's just hillarious considering I'm in my early 30's and have run a successful insurance agency for 5 yrs now. Didn't you know? I'm one of these evil insurance guys out to ***** the little man.



Smiley: lol Nepotism dude. 60 hotels and growing.
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#65 Aug 11 2008 at 8:17 AM Rating: Excellent
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Well, see? You two have nepotism in common, at least.

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Well, see? You two have nepotism in common, at least.

Agreed, I'm just blessed to have entered a "better" family.
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#67 Aug 11 2008 at 8:28 AM Rating: Good
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In fact it can be argued that those who have through inaction forced the govn to give them all these luxuries are more intelligent than those who have earned it.


Ok, I can see you're struggling with this one, so let me hold your hand.

Everything is relative. This is the starting point of pretty much everything. "Poverty" in the US is measured by US standards. Same in other countries. Now, in order to be in the "middle-class", you can't be "poor" relatively. By definition. If you were poor, you'be in the "lower-class".

In "poor" countries, it means that the "lower-class" is huge, "the middle-class" small, and the "upper-class" miniuscule. Those that are in the "upper" section of the "middle-class" in most countries around the world live in relative luxury. Once again, by definition. They drive nice cars, and have cable TV. They travel abroad. They go shopping at the mall, and buy luxuries. They are well-off in terms of purchasing power.

You're trying to compare that class of people to "poor" people in the US, who have virtually 0 purchasing power. If you live in a trailer park and are unemployed in the US, you won't have nearly the same purchasing power as, say, a regional manager of Coca-Cola in Argentina.

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I assume that Varrus is poorly trying to say that the lowest 30% of the US population lives better than, to make up a number, the lowest 65% in Zambia. But that has nothing to do with defining middle/upper class -- there's just a lot of lower class dirt farmers in Zambia.
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#70 Aug 11 2008 at 8:40 AM Rating: Good
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knoxsouthy wrote:
And you categorize a regional manager of coca-cola as middle class?

In Argentina? Sure would. Actually, just about anywhere, they'd be middle class. Maybe on the upper end of middle class depending on the region in question, but not beyond it.
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#71 Aug 11 2008 at 8:41 AM Rating: Excellent
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Jophiel wrote:
I assume that Varrus is poorly trying to say that the lowest 30% of the US population lives better than, to make up a number, the lowest 65% in Zambia. But that has nothing to do with defining middle/upper class -- there's just a lot of lower class dirt farmers in Zambia.


Then he should have said the poor in America are better off than the poor in Zambia, or whatever. Not that the poor in America are better off than the upper-middle class in Zambia, assuming Zambia has a middle class.

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knoxsouthy wrote:
and yet you seemed to get it.
Well, yeah. But it was despite your moronic fumbling of the words, not because of it.
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knoxsouthy wrote:
and yet you seemed to get it.
Well, yeah. But it was despite your moronic fumbling of the words, not because of it.
Conditioning. You're an elite athlete when it comes to deciphering Varusisms.
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