Obama's team whines too muchFollow

I know it's not an excuse, but they treat us the same way on domestic flights. So it's not like they are picking on Foriegners.

While I was flying to South Carolina one morning with a guy from work, he forgot that he had his cell phone in his back pocket. He went through the metal detector 3 times before he remembered. And then when he took it out and passed successfully, the forced him off to the side and searched him completely.

I think the workers are just underpaid and have been exposed to so much crap from people that feel they shouldn't be searched (You know, people like the woman they show on the how to videos, who doesn't follow rules, doesn't have tickets ready, talking on the phone the entire time, holding up lines, etc).

When I was in college, they would charter a Greyhound bus to drive the 10 hour drive down state during spring and thanksgiving breaks. There was a stop in a small town, and there just happened to be a few cops there.

They got on the bus, and started checking people for IDs and stuff. I felt really bad because they stopped at these two Indian girls, and started asking them when they were born, where they were born, where they lived. They asked them for ID, which they didn't have, and they got angry at the girls. Of course it was the middle of the night, we were all college students who were ticketed passengers.

They must have spent about 5 minutes bugging these two girls just because they didn't speak very good english. I don't blame them for not having ID on them, it was probably in their luggage under the bus.

******* idiot.

How has it affected ME? How about the realization that I may end up on some FBI watch list because I bought a car, or decided to spend a weekend on the boats? You're right, I guess I shouldn't be concerned that my privacy can now be invaded at the whim of some fish in Washington who decided that a "fishing expedition" is the optimal way to fight crime.

Or maybe, just maybe, I care because my freedoms are represented equally by the freedoms of those thousands of mostly innocent individuals who are now "suspects" in some FBI database because they had a good time in Vegas. Yeah.

By in large the only ones saying that he is are silly Republicans using it as a strawman.*Shrug* Could be.

The race is Obama's to lose. Which means that, right now, Obama is in the position to win. Obama is in line to clear all of the 2004 states plus the extras needed to hit 270. Even more interesting, he can do it without Ohio and Florida whereas McCain must win both Ohio and Florida, take several Obama states and not lose any to Obama in order to have a chance. Even if Obama loses the two most likely to flip from their current predictions to red (Indiana and Nevada) he still wins. In short, McCain has to run the entire board of close Republican races and flip nearly all of the close Democratic-leaning races into his column. Can he do it? Hell if I know. But it's a weak place to be.

Joph, I like you, I really do, but using facts, references, and good points against functionally retarded GOP folks is a waste of perfectly good finger strokes that could be used more efficiently IN...other areas.

Because dumbfuck, rights of citizens are more important than catching terrorists. Always has been and always will be.


I don't need to justify my right to privacy, the government needs to justify itself to invade my privacy.

I want privacy because it's my fucking right. I need no other justification. The anti-liberty party of our government, namely the Republican Party, wants to make sure that right is seized and controlled to how they see fit.

Edited, Aug 10th 2008 5:51pm by NaughtyWord

Sure. I'd still rather be ahead than behind. Gallup continually notes that the race this year has been extraordinarily stable. Which it has. Compare the last couple of months from this year to the 2004 election (using RCP's polling averages):


2004 was all over the board coming up to the elections and debates. Folks didn't know who they wanted. This year the sides are pretty settled in going into the "real" race. Again, I'm not saying that McCain can't make it out of the hole but there's no denying that he's starting out behind and has been consistantly behind on average.How will McCain's presidency differ dramatically from Bush's? What major policy differences will he implement?Not really. Maybe if Pawlenty is tapped for VP but not otherwise. It's like saying Texas or Georgia is in play. They're closer than 10% but I don't think McCain is really sweating Georgia nor is Obama sweating Minnesota. I'd be more worried about states such as Virginia and N. Carolina which should be safe GOP territory but shifting demographics and an unusual election year have suddenly made viable for a Democratic take-over.

Edited, Aug 10th 2008 9:08pm by Jophiel

Pop because I need to edit.

I would **** my pants in happiness if the City (read: mostly black) centers could turn enough blue to make georgia go blue, just this once.