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#27 Jul 29 2008 at 6:12 AM Rating: Excellent
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Yes, putting down a puppy that would bite a crying baby until it died is exactly the same as euthanizing a toddler for an accident. Don't be absurd.

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You're right, they're not even close, but putting down a 6 week old puppy, who knows no better is over reacting. Agreed?
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#28 Jul 29 2008 at 6:15 AM Rating: Excellent
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First, puppies and babies are a bad combination in general, even for responsible people who are careful about monitoring both. The puppy is going to end up being neglected because (duh) the baby comes first.

Second... yeah, what's up with the parents if the kid was inside being chewed to death? I guess Trainspotting tells us that heroin and babies don't mix, either, if there were any question about that.



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#29 Jul 29 2008 at 6:18 AM Rating: Excellent
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Uglysasquatch, Mercenary Major wrote:
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Yes, putting down a puppy that would bite a crying baby until it died is exactly the same as euthanizing a toddler for an accident. Don't be absurd.

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You're right, they're not even close, but putting down a 6 week old puppy, who knows no better is over reacting. Agreed?


I'm uncertain actually. I've known lots of dogs, though I've never owned one of my own. The dogs I've known, even as puppies, would be more likely to agressively defend an infant, even from the parents, rather than bite it. They also seem to become very concerned about children crying and attempt to console them. Labs *especially* fit this mentality...right along with shepherds.

I think the entire story is unfortunate, but if the child was so neglected, and the puppy was so abused/neglected that it would actually bite an infant TO DEATH, maybe it needed to be put down anyway.

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#30 Jul 29 2008 at 6:29 AM Rating: Excellent
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Isn't 6 weeks about the time that puppies are taken from their moms and whored out to other families? To a 6 week old puppy, a baby would've been another puppy to play with. And they tend to bite each other. Although, they also usually stop once one yelps.
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#31 Jul 29 2008 at 6:30 AM Rating: Decent
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You're right, they're not even close, but putting down a 6 week old puppy, who knows no better is over reacting.


No, it's not overreacting, because it's a FUCKING DOG. Killing every dog in the town would have been overreacting, killing the dog that likely killed a child is an attempt to mitigate the pain of the kids family. I'm sure you dream of a day when the dog can be tried and plead out to manslaughter, but we're just not there yet.

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#32 Jul 29 2008 at 6:31 AM Rating: Excellent
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Uglysasquatch, Mercenary Major wrote:
Although, they also usually stop once one yelps.


Yes...normally, they don't chew on a screaming baby until it bleeds to death.

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#33 Jul 29 2008 at 6:31 AM Rating: Excellent
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At six weeks old the puppy was just chewing.

Also, I have a sneaking suspicion that "euthanized" means "kicked to death" in this case.

Either way, both babies are better off not being raised by these people.

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#34 Jul 29 2008 at 6:43 AM Rating: Excellent
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killing the dog that likely killed a child is an attempt to mitigate the pain of the kids family.

Exactly, and that's why I think it was overreacting, because we both know that it won't help.
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#35 Jul 29 2008 at 6:53 AM Rating: Default
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Exactly, and that's why I think it was overreacting, because we both know that it won't help.


Help how? I imagine the family would feel somewhat better knowing the childslaying dog had been killed. You're barking up the wrong tree with me on this one. I'm completely in favor of laws stating any person can kill any dog they see on sight. Living in a society where pets are valued more than starving children sickens me on a daily basis.

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#36 Jul 29 2008 at 6:59 AM Rating: Excellent
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You're barking up the wrong tree with me on this one.


Hah.

Also, I value pets more than kids, which is one of the really excellent reasons I've never wanted kids.

Although if I did have kids I'd like to think I wouldn't let them be chewed to death, at least not accidentally.

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#37 Jul 29 2008 at 6:59 AM Rating: Decent
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Smasharoo wrote:

Exactly, and that's why I think it was overreacting, because we both know that it won't help.


Help how? I imagine the family would feel somewhat better knowing the childslaying dog had been killed. You're barking up the wrong tree with me on this one. I'm completely in favor of laws stating any person can kill any dog they see on sight. Living in a society where pets are valued more than starving children sickens me on a daily basis.



Barking up the wrong tree, hahaha, you slay me.

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#38 Jul 29 2008 at 7:00 AM Rating: Excellent
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I'm completely in favor of laws stating any person can kill any dog they see on sight.

So killing the dog is personal for you. Got it. I think killing the dog was pointless, you think it brought some comfort to a family that was too stunned to know what was going on.



We disagree, but it's OK, because we both know you're right. Smiley: rolleyes
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#39 Jul 29 2008 at 7:02 AM Rating: Decent
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Yet you won't get the cat fixed because you think it will hurt her feelings.

*sigh*

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#40 Jul 29 2008 at 7:03 AM Rating: Excellent
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Yet you won't get the cat fixed because you think it will hurt her feelings.

*sigh*

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Hell, if I had kids I'd get them fixed, too.

Keeps them from squalling and trying to get out of the house.

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#41 Jul 29 2008 at 7:42 AM Rating: Default
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So killing the dog is personal for you.


No, it's meaningless to me, just as you eating a turkey sandwich doesn't spark a debate on the pointlessness of raising animals for food.

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#42 Jul 29 2008 at 7:47 AM Rating: Excellent
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just as you eating a turkey sandwich

That's fucking eerie. I had that for lunch today.
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#43 Jul 29 2008 at 11:27 AM Rating: Decent
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While I don't condone the parents' lack of attention, if the dog got a hold of the babies neck (as puppies do with other puppies when they are playing), even a 6 week old puppy, there wouldn't have been a heck of a lot of crying to hear. Young parents, baby is in the swing possibly taking a nap in the other room, they have the music on so they can't hear the muffled baby cries. I could see it happening.

There's just not enough information here to make a judgment on the situation.

Personally I'm of the mind that dogs shouldn't be anywhere near young children, of course I'm biased being severely allergic to most pets. That being said, putting the 6 week old puppy down seems a little unwarranted, the puppy likely was just playing like it would with another puppy.

There's a lot to this story that we're not seeing.
#44 Jul 29 2008 at 11:53 AM Rating: Decent
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Yet you won't get the cat fixed because you think it will hurt her feelings.

*sigh*

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Enjoy the squalling when she goes into heat. Ugh.

I can't wait until the male kitten we just got is old enough to be fixed. He's already trying to spray everything.
#45 Jul 29 2008 at 11:57 AM Rating: Default
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There's a lot to this story that we're not seeing./b]

Yup, it's a big puppy killing conspiracy, clearly. It's so mysterious and complex. For **** sake it's LITERALLY a "dog bites man" story. It's only news because people LOOOOOOOOVE babies dying so much and no newspaper can resist those kinds of dollars.

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#46 Jul 29 2008 at 11:58 AM Rating: Decent
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Nadenu wrote:
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Yet you won't get the cat fixed because you think it will hurt her feelings.

*sigh*

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Enjoy the squalling when she goes into heat. Ugh.


Yeah, I do, it's fantastic. I also love that she ***** my shoes if I forget and leave them in the living room.

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#47 Jul 29 2008 at 11:59 AM Rating: Excellent
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Nexa wrote:
Nadenu wrote:
Nexa wrote:
Yet you won't get the cat fixed because you think it will hurt her feelings.

*sigh*

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Enjoy the squalling when she goes into heat. Ugh.


Yeah, I do, it's fantastic. I also love that she @#%^s my shoes if I forget and leave them in the living room.

Nexa


Wait, is this Hannah or did you get a kitten?

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#48 Jul 29 2008 at 12:03 PM Rating: Excellent
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Samira wrote:
Nexa wrote:
Nadenu wrote:
Nexa wrote:
Yet you won't get the cat fixed because you think it will hurt her feelings.

*sigh*

Nexa


Enjoy the squalling when she goes into heat. Ugh.


Yeah, I do, it's fantastic. I also love that she @#%^s my shoes if I forget and leave them in the living room.

Nexa


Wait, is this Hannah or did you get a kitten?



haha, Smash's cat.

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#49 Jul 29 2008 at 12:04 PM Rating: Excellent
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Nexa wrote:
Nadenu wrote:
Nexa wrote:
Yet you won't get the cat fixed because you think it will hurt her feelings.

*sigh*

Nexa


Enjoy the squalling when she goes into heat. Ugh.


Yeah, I do, it's fantastic. I also love that she @#%^s my shoes if I forget and leave them in the living room.

Nexa


And the way they have their butts in the air CONSTANTLY. Little whores.
#50 Jul 29 2008 at 12:28 PM Rating: Good
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There's a lot to this story that we're not seeing.


Yup, it's a big puppy killing conspiracy, clearly. It's so mysterious and complex. For @#%^ sake it's LITERALLY a "dog bites man" story. It's only news because people LOOOOOOOOVE babies dying so much and no newspaper can resist those kinds of dollars.



Yes it is a "dog bites man" story, but how much fault should be put on the parents is yet to be determined. We need much more information to make any kind of judgment on this. It is possible, although doubtful, that this is a legitimate accident that could have happened to anyone here and doesn't involve negligence on the parents part.
#51 Jul 29 2008 at 12:34 PM Rating: Excellent
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Well,even if there were no noise at all and the parents and grandmother were all stone cold sober, you don't leave a dog alone with a baby.

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