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#1 Jul 23 2008 at 8:52 AM Rating: Excellent
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A Royal Marine who threw himself over an exploding grenade to shield his comrades from the blast has been recommended for a Victoria Cross, Britain’s highest military honour.

Lance Corporal Matt Croucher, who was on a reconnaissance mission in southern Afghanistan, escaped unscathed except for a nosebleed when his rucksack took the force of the blast.

The three men who were with him suffered only minor cuts and bruises and have recommended to their commanding officer that Lance Corporal Croucher, a Marine reservist from Birmingham, be honoured for his bravery.

Lance Corporal Croucher and his troop were on patrol last month near their base in Sangin, Helmand province, when he stepped into a tripwire that pulled the pin from a boobytrap grenade.

He said: “I thought, I’ve set this bloody thing off and I’m going to do whatever it takes to protect the others. I’m very tight with the three other guys. There have been a few times when they have saved my bacon.

“I knew a grenade like this has a killing circumference of about five metres. So I got down with my back to the grenade and used my body as a shield. It was a case of either having four of us as fatalities or badly wounded, or one.”
Holy cats. Smiley: eek

I've no idea of what kind of training they get but it seems like quick thought to use his rucksack to absorb the brunt of the explosion.
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#2 Jul 23 2008 at 9:06 AM Rating: Excellent
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Well, even further, it appears as though the rucksack absorbing the explosion *wasn't* considered by the guy...he thought he was going to die...he just happened to be wearing a rucksack at the time and it saved his life.

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#3 Jul 23 2008 at 9:10 AM Rating: Good
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Nexa wrote:
Well, even further, it appears as though the rucksack absorbing the explosion *wasn't* considered by the guy...he thought he was going to die...he just happened to be wearing a rucksack at the time and it saved his life.

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Yep. I think he did it with his back to it because he was hoping for an open casket.
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#4 Jul 23 2008 at 9:12 AM Rating: Excellent
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I think they're all covering up for someone pushing him down at it for tripping the wire, personally.

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#5 Jul 23 2008 at 9:26 AM Rating: Decent
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Royal marines are crazy, bat-shit crazy.

Some guys from 9 Assault Squadron (Based on HMS Ocean) ran the London marathon with full Bergans all three years i was onboard, that's ALOT of weight.
#6 Jul 23 2008 at 9:33 AM Rating: Good
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Marine1: dum de dum de dum, oh snap! I've set off a trip wire.
Marine2: You ****! ::shove::
*BOOM*
Marine1: ********** That was awesome! Let's do that again!
Marine3: That guy is ******* insane, let's give him a medal for bravery.
#7 Jul 23 2008 at 9:38 AM Rating: Decent
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I see you have met a Royal marine reavenance Smiley: lol
#8 Jul 23 2008 at 9:46 AM Rating: Excellent
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Alternate:

Marine 1: I would wager a packet of biscuits that a rucksack could take a grenade!
Marine 2: ********* Don't be ridiculous!
Marine 3: Oh my dear, no certainly not!
Marine 1: I have the biscuits right here! Who will take the wager?!
Marine 2: McVities! Hmmm, are they chocolate?!
Marine 3: I will accept your wager, but only if the biscuits are milk chocolate and you are actually wearing the rucksack at the time of explosion!
Marine 1: It was always my intention to wear the rucksack, what do you take me for, a poofter!?
Marine 2: Let me hold the biscuits so they aren't ruined.

*grenade inserted, explosion commences*

Marine 2: @#%^ me!
Marine 3: Bloody brilliant!
Marine 1: Well, I'm quite chuffed that I get my biscuits back, but how shall I explain the state of my rucksack?

Nexa

Edited, Jul 23rd 2008 1:47pm by Nexa
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#9 Jul 23 2008 at 9:51 AM Rating: Good
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I wasn't aware that David Hyde Pierce and Kesley Grammar were Royal Marines...

Edit: But it makes so much sense now.

Edited, Jul 23rd 2008 2:50pm by reavenance
#10 Jul 23 2008 at 9:52 AM Rating: Excellent
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reavenance wrote:
I wasn't aware that David Hyde Pierce and Kesley Grammar were Royal Marines...


I often dream of some combination of Periscope Down, Frasier, and Monty Python. That could explain the confusion.

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#11 Jul 23 2008 at 9:53 AM Rating: Decent
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I wonder if his rucksack could absorb the blast from the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch...
#12 Jul 23 2008 at 9:55 AM Rating: Good
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Quote:
Marine 1: Oi dickhead, betcha yer last packet of hobnobs that yer bergan is more nails than a granade
Marine 2: Don't be FUcking stupid!
Marine 3: Yer having a gerraff mate!
Marine 1: I have the biscuits right here! Shall we spoof for who wears Smudges burgen?!
Marine 2: Yer not using my bloody bergen!
Marine 3: Let's spoof for who's Bergen first then who get to wear it.

Marine 1 loses the Spoof

Marine 1: It's my bloody bergen i'm sitting on the bloody granade, what do you take me for, a shitstabber!?
Marine 2: Let me hold the biscuits so they aren't ruined.

*grenade inserted, explosion commences*

Marine 2: @#%^ me!
Marine 3: Bloody brilliant!
Marine 1: Well, that was fun, but how shall I explain the state of my rucksack? oh FFS jonno you eat me fUcking Hobnobs, you ******.
Marine 3: yer left em loafing dickhead, 3 second rule and all that.
Just Marineised it for you Nexa.

Edited, Jul 23rd 2008 1:56pm by tarv
#13 Jul 23 2008 at 9:57 AM Rating: Decent
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Quote:
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Marine 1: Oi Richardhead, betcha yer last packet of hobnobs that yer bergan is more nail than a granade
Marine 2: Don't be @#%^ing stupid!
Marine 3: Yer having a gerraff mate!
Marine 1: I have the biscuits right here! Shall we spoof for who wears Sudges burgen?!
Marine 2: Yer not using my bloody bergen!
Marine 3: Let's spoof for who's Bergen first then who get to wear it.

Marine 1 loses the Spoof

Marine 1: It's my bloody bergen i'm sitting on the bloody granade, what do you take me for, a sh*tstabber!?
Marine 2: Let me hold the biscuits so they aren't ruined.

*grenade inserted, explosion commences*

Marine 2: @#%^ me!
Marine 3: Bloody brilliant!
Marine 1: Well, that was fun, but how shall I explain the state of my rucksack? oh FFS jonno you eat me @#%^ing Hobnobs, you ******.
Marine 3: yer left em loafing Richardhead, 3 second rule and all that.

Just Cockney-Marine-ised it for you Nexa.

fixed

Edited, Jul 23rd 2008 2:56pm by reavenance
#14 Jul 23 2008 at 10:00 AM Rating: Excellent
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Omg I understood all that!
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#15 Jul 23 2008 at 10:00 AM Rating: Decent
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All of the military uses Cockney rhyming slang, all the time. We even have a couple of our own.

Going to the colonel gadaffi = naffi.

Chicken Dipper = Skipper.

Make and Snake = Make and mend.

#16 Jul 23 2008 at 10:07 AM Rating: Excellent
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Baron von tarv wrote:
Just Marineised it for you Nexa.



*claps*

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#17 Jul 23 2008 at 10:07 AM Rating: Excellent
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Baron von tarv wrote:

Chicken Dipper = Skipper.


This would be way funnier if it meant Stripper.

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#18 Jul 23 2008 at 10:19 AM Rating: Good
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I love Croucher because he has those piercing eyes. I bet he can defeat terrorism with BLUE STEEL!
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#19 Jul 23 2008 at 10:45 AM Rating: Good
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There's a fine line between selfless hero and fUckwit.

The George Cross was deemed an appropriate reward, but for a while they were considering a pair of big shoes and a straightjacket.

Hats off to the guy.

I have heard (anecdote only) from his neighbour that rather than a 'grenade' it was a crappy little IED that would barely part your hair, but even if that's true, I doubt he was able to make that evaluation at the time.

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#20 Jul 23 2008 at 10:48 AM Rating: Excellent
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If he had been from TN, the only thing that would have made him jump on a live grenade would have been if a gun rack had been attached to it.

Or a sheep.
#21 Jul 23 2008 at 11:15 AM Rating: Excellent
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If he had been from TN, the only thing that would have made him jump on a live grenade would have been if a gun rack had been attached to it.

Or a sheep.


Or a pair of those brass bull balls that he thought he might be able to attach to his rucksack...
#22 Jul 23 2008 at 11:36 AM Rating: Good
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I'm not claiming that this bravery is unique to any nation - Every country has them, but I think Sir Ranulph Fiennes is an example of the mindset that leads to such awesomeness.
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I'm not claiming that this bravery is unique to any nation - Every country has them, but I think Sir Ranulph Fiennes is an example of the mindset that leads to such awesomeness.


He amputated his own fingers on his left hand...

Fucking NAILS!!!
#24 Jul 23 2008 at 12:09 PM Rating: Good
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He amputated his own fingers on his left hand...

Fucking NAILS!!!
Sorry - Only part of the interview there.

Full version here

Might not work outside of Britainland
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Seriously, while what the guy did is most definitely ballsy, by-and-large it is utterly unncessary due to the nature of grenade munitions. It is a staple of WW2 movies where the heroic (but un-marqueed actor) dives upon a potato masher, thus saving the lives of his fellow soldiers while tragically leaving a beautiful fiance back home.

Remarkably this movie lore has burrowed into the public consciousness and become SOP for a frantic response to a hand grenade attack.

Due to the nature of high explosives and the shape of your typical 'nade, the only needed response to an imminent explosion is to quickly kick the offending item away from you and lay down flat on the ground. Assuming you aren't sitting in a sub-compact car and someone has chucked one into the passenger seat and you're belted securely in with the doors locked, you should be able to get down on the ground and find your ears ringing but otherwise basically unscathed.

In a foxhole, you'd be due a tongue lashing from the company first shirt if you hadn't built a grenade sump where you could kick the wicked thing in the event one finds its way at your feet. Granted, the close confines of a foxhole are going to magnify the blast effects, leaving you at least partially deaf for life, but that beats the alternative: leaping on the grenade to save your buddy's life.

You see, because all shrapnel is directed upward into a 45* arc, you'd have to be knee level or higher for any of the nasty bits of hot and stinging metal to pierce your skin. Sure the headache will be blinding and you might even be bleeding from the ears, nose, and mouth, but you'll be alive.

So should you find yourself being assaulted with grenades by homegrown Muzzie terrorists in, say, Chicago, while visiting your local Starbucks, remember this post and ignore the urge to impress your Peruvian bride with your gallantry by tossing yourself on the explosive while mouthing the words, "I love you!" Just casually nudge it over towards that table with the incessantly gabby executive secretary who has a cell phone surgically attached to her ear and is talking loud enough for everyone in the store to hear about how her date went with that a$$hole stockbroker, and let it blow her up.

You're welcome.

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Seriously, while what the guy did is most definitely ballsy, by-and-large it is utterly unncessary due to the nature of grenade munitions. It is a staple of WW2 movies where the heroic (but un-marqueed actor) dives upon a potato masher, thus saving the lives of his fellow soldiers while tragically leaving a beautiful fiance back home.

Remarkably this movie lore has burrowed into the public consciousness and become SOP for a frantic response to a hand grenade attack.

Due to the nature of high explosives and the shape of your typical 'nade, the only needed response to an imminent explosion is to quickly kick the offending item away from you and lay down flat on the ground. Assuming you aren't sitting in a sub-compact car and someone has chucked one into the passenger seat and you're belted securely in with the doors locked, you should be able to get down on the ground and find your ears ringing but otherwise basically unscathed.

In a foxhole, you'd be due a tongue lashing from the company first shirt if you hadn't built a grenade sump where you could kick the wicked thing in the event one finds its way at your feet. Granted, the close confines of a foxhole are going to magnify the blast effects, leaving you at least partially deaf for life, but that beats the alternative: leaping on the grenade to save your buddy's life.

You see, because all shrapnel is directed upward into a 45* arc, you'd have to be knee level or higher for any of the nasty bits of hot and stinging metal to pierce your skin. Sure the headache will be blinding and you might even be bleeding from the ears, nose, and mouth, but you'll be alive.

So should you find yourself being assaulted with grenades by homegrown Muzzie terrorists in, say, Chicago, while visiting your local Starbucks, remember this post and ignore the urge to impress your Peruvian bride with your gallantry by tossing yourself on the explosive while mouthing the words, "I love you!" Just casually nudge it over towards that table with the incessantly gabby executive secretary who has a cell phone surgically attached to her ear and is talking loud enough for everyone in the store to hear about how her date went with that a$$hole stockbroker, and let it blow her up.

You're welcome.

Totem


providing that the grenade was'nt cooked
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