In an utterly predictable move that one easily foresaw seven and a half years ago when Bush appointed a Surgeon General who refused to prescribe birth control to single women, the HHS is attempting to restrict women's access to birth control by defining many of the more popular forms of birth control as "abortion" so that women cannot acquire these forms of contraception from clinics which receive federal funding.
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While I'm not familiar with your health care system, the idea of contraceptives being equivalent to abortion seems fairly absurd.
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Xsarus wrote:
While I'm not familiar with your health care system, the idea of contraceptives being equivalent to abortion seems fairly absurd.
Even more absurd when you think about the fact that the people trying to get rid of birth control are also those opposed to abortion. The more easily available birth control is, the less necessity there is for abortion. Unless the ultimate goal is neither the elimination of abortion nor birth control, but instead is to strong-arm women back into the kitchen, barefoot and pregnant. Then it all makes perfect sense.
Seriously? Strong-arm into the kitchen. Lay off the Estrogen sauce there turbo.
I smell another abstinence conversation...
I smell another abstinence conversation...
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the HHS is attempting to restrict women's access to birth control by defining many of the more popular forms of birth control as "abortion" so that women cannot acquire these forms of contraception from clinics which receive federal funding.
I agree with the general sentiment of your post, although the above sentence is either misleading or poorly worded.
It's not that federally funded clinics won't be allowed to offer those contraceptives. It's that federally funded clinics can't discriminate in hiring employees based on their willingness to apply contraception/abortion.
Still an abhorrent policy, though.
Ambrya wrote:
Even more absurd when you think about the fact that the people trying to get rid of birth control are also those opposed to abortion.
From a religious view it'd make sense. Isn't abstinence what they preach anyways?
lmao....check out the comments below
"These persistent forkers want control of the bedroom while demanding that you stay out of the boardroom."
You finally found your people Ambrya!
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"These persistent forkers want control of the bedroom while demanding that you stay out of the boardroom."
You finally found your people Ambrya!
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MentalFrog wrote:
Ambrya wrote:
Even more absurd when you think about the fact that the people trying to get rid of birth control are also those opposed to abortion.
From a religious view it'd make sense. Isn't abstinence what they preach anyways?
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Sevlrin wrote:
This angers me so much. I will leave it at that, as I am too upset to write a coherent post. I will respond later once I have calmed down a bit.
Well, thank goodness. I'd hate to think we'd be stranded without your opinion indefinitely.
The logic is not all that far-fetched. Some birth control pills and certainly the IUD act to prevent a fertilized egg from implanting in the uterus; so in that sense it is abortive.
I personally find antiabortionists laughable anyway, but facts is facts.
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
knoxsouthy wrote:
Still waiting for someone to explain to me why it's the governments responsibility to fund this. I'm all for contraceptives; just not paying for someone else.
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The logic is not all that far-fetched. Some birth control pills and certainly the IUD act to prevent a fertilized egg from implanting in the uterus; so in that sense it is abortive.
How does the government pay for contraceptives at the moment? I would agree that it doesn't really make sense, but again, I'm not clear on exactly how the whole health care thing works down there.
Edited, Jul 16th 2008 4:28pm by Xsarus
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knoxsouthy wrote:
Sami,
Because snipping the spinal cord of a newborn child is so hillarious.
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I personally find antiabortionists laughable anyway
Because snipping the spinal cord of a newborn child is so hillarious.
If you do it right it is.
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Samira wrote:
knoxsouthy wrote:
Sami,
Because snipping the spinal cord of a newborn child is so hillarious.
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I personally find antiabortionists laughable anyway
Because snipping the spinal cord of a newborn child is so hillarious.
If you do it right it is.
lol....straight to hell for you Missy.
Rate ups for Samira. My first laugh all day.
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I can't believe someone rated her down. Jesus, people...
I am totally against this. If my wife can't get her IUD then that means I have to get my balls cut open and cauterized. Which is something I'd rather not have to do.
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we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
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Samira wrote:
knoxsouthy wrote:
Sami,
Because snipping the spinal cord of a newborn child is so hillarious.
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I personally find antiabortionists laughable anyway
Because snipping the spinal cord of a newborn child is so hillarious.
If you do it right it is.
lol....straight to hell for you Missy.
I lol'ed
This American Life reported, (and I posted about it here) near the beginning of the Bush administration, that Bush had appointed someone to head some kind of "childhood lead poisoning council" who didn't believe lead poisoning occurred very readily. He is a pediatrician, and had not seen any cases of childhood lead poisoning personally. He had testified in court as an expert witness. He had no scientific background and was totally at odds with the conventional scientific views held by those who actually studied the problem.
If Bush only had *highly* eccentric religious views (and tried to force them into law) I could sort of forgive him.
It's his worship of money I can't forgive him for.
If Bush only had *highly* eccentric religious views (and tried to force them into law) I could sort of forgive him.
It's his worship of money I can't forgive him for.
Debalic wrote:
I am totally against this. If my wife can't get her IUD then that means I have to get my balls cut open and cauterized. Which is something I'd rather not have to do.
Precisely the biggest problem. The people who suffer the most from this are not just the "sluts" Virus so blithely writes off. It's ALL women who rely on clinics with low or sliding scale pricing for their birth control, including responsible married women whose health insurance won't cover contraception.
Just another ploy to make the working class poorer. Thanx Bushy.
Thank goodness for Planned Parenthood, though. They give away free birth control like nobody's business!
Thank goodness for Planned Parenthood, though. They give away free birth control like nobody's business!
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Wohoo I enjoy paying for a sluts contraceptive.
Now you'll be paying for her child support instead ;)
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