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#1 Jun 27 2008 at 2:56 AM Rating: Good
I would live in San Francisco.

And no, it's not just because of Samira, or the hippy culture, or the availibitly of drugs.

It's just that, culturally and politically, I think I'd fit in just fine.

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Some presidents get carved into Mt Rushmore; others have airports, motorways, and even entire cities named in their honour. But when George Bush leaves office, his most visible memorial may be a mouldering patch of human effluent.

In November, alongside casting their ballot for the next president, the people of San Francisco will also vote on a measure to rename one of the city's largest sewage works the George W Bush Sewage Plant, to provide a "fitting monument" to the outgoing commander-in-chief's achievements.

It may sound like a student prank, but the proposal is almost certain to be passed. Democrats usually secure between 70 and 80 per cent of the vote in San Francisco –and in 2006 passed a proposition to impeach Mr Bush and his Vice-President Richard Cheney by a majority of almost two to one.

The ballot takes advantage of local government rules, which state that any proposal supported by a petition carrying the signatures of more than 7,168 voters must go to the polls. At present, the supporters of the sewage plant proposal claim to have 8,500 signatures, and counting. If the measure passes, city authorities will be forced to erect a prominent sign bearing the legend "George W Bush Sewage Plant" at the site of the bayside facility.

Local Republicans call it an "abuse of process" and promised to "use all means" to defeat it, Howard Epstein, the party's spokesman, told the San Francisco Chronicle: "There's no use to this other than to make these nutcases feel good." The proposal even jollified yesterday's White House press briefing, where a spokesman three times refused to comment.

However, Mr McConnell claimed to have only noticed two forms of opposition during his campaign so far. "First, we get people who say they just want to forget George Bush's presidency," he said. "Second, we hear from those who say that sewage plants perform a valuable public service and, as such, it does not make sense to name one after George Bush."


I hope you're fullfilling your patriotic duty to vote on such important matters, Sami.


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#2 Jun 27 2008 at 3:00 AM Rating: Good
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Local Republicans call it an "abuse of process"


Classic.

Hahahahahaaaa!
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#3 Jun 27 2008 at 5:03 AM Rating: Good
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"Second, we hear from those who say that sewage plants perform a valuable public service and, as such, it does not make sense to name one after George Bush."

lol


Really, truly did.
#4 Jun 27 2008 at 6:29 AM Rating: Excellent
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Howard Epstein, the party's spokesman, told the San Francisco Chronicle: "There's no use to this other than to make these nutcases feel good."


He says it like it's a bad thing! We nutcases need to feel good too, you know.

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#5 Jun 27 2008 at 7:04 AM Rating: Decent
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I would live in San Francisco.


I've thought about it. There's even relatively big poker games nearby. On the other hand, it's still in California. If NoCal would just succeed from California and becomes it's own reasonably sized state, I'd probably be in.

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#6 Jun 27 2008 at 7:08 AM Rating: Excellent
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I would live in San Francisco.


I've thought about it. There's even relatively big poker games nearby. On the other hand, it's still in California. If NoCal would just succeed from California and becomes it's own reasonably sized state, I'd probably be in.



Yes, but then there'd be a conservative state to the south that we could no longer override.

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#7 Jun 27 2008 at 7:15 AM Rating: Good
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Yes, but then there'd be a conservative state to the south that we could no longer override.


Right. Also, last time I was there, a seal totally stole my sandwich. ******* seals.

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#8 Jun 27 2008 at 7:26 AM Rating: Good
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last time I was there, a seal totally stole my sandwich. @#%^ing seals.


The only sentence I ever learnt to say in Norwegian was : "A seagull has stolen my piece of bread."

Ay moke har biffa shiva me.

******* seagull. It was really nice bread, too.
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#9 Jun 27 2008 at 1:48 PM Rating: Decent
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Smasharoo wrote:
If NoCal would just succeed from California and becomes it's own reasonably sized state, I'd probably be in.



You do realize that if that happened, no Dem president would sit in the White House for the next 40+ years though, right?
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#10 Jun 27 2008 at 1:59 PM Rating: Decent
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You do realize that if that happened, no Dem president would sit in the White House for the next 40+ years though, right?


Yeah, no. Also, it would make solid economic sense to sell San Diego to Mexico outright. Who needs a massive drain on the economy full of simpletons. We could package it with El Paso and Santa Fe.



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#11 Jun 27 2008 at 2:47 PM Rating: Good
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I love the bay area. 15 minutes to the ocean, 4 hours to the snow, great climate, Napa valley, Silicone valley, great Chinese food, passable Italian food, best Sourdough bread ANYWHERE, Sees Candy, Ghirardelli and Guittard chocolate. Only drawback? One of the most expensive fucking places to live in the country.
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Only drawback? One of the most expensive fucking places to live in the country.


I was going to go with "it's full of Nutters", but close enough, since they're largely *why* it's one of the most expensive places to live in the country.
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#13 Jun 27 2008 at 8:31 PM Rating: Decent
I just don't want to live in a big city. Why on Earth would I want to live in an apartment? When I was single, sure, but not now. For my tastes, Camarillo has the perfect climate and it's a great place to raise a family. We're under an hour from Santa Barbara or LA and I wouldn't want to live any closer.

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I was going to go with "it's full of Nutters", but close enough, since they're largely *why* it's one of the most expensive places to live in the country.


Yeah, because those crazy bastards at Berkley never produce anything useful. SD on the other hand gave us...let me see here...wasn't the Caesar Salad invented there? Good work, guys.

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#15 Jun 27 2008 at 8:46 PM Rating: Good
City politics in San Diego, ever since I can recall, was always about no-growth versus maybe some very small growth, with no-growth usually winning (although it is a basically irreversible process, thus growth advocates don't need to win often). Biggest insult was "from LA" or "like LA", which thus did grow and have far more reasonable housing prices, compared with the phenomenal cost of living in San Diego within the city limits and the density of cheap housing just outside (mostly to the North, along state route 78).

I mean I know it is basically such a no-brainer that it barely warrants notice, but gbaji is totally wrong. I blame meth.
#16 Jun 27 2008 at 10:03 PM Rating: Good
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I spent 18 months or so travelling around the US and central america back in the early 90's.

Everyone would tell me that 'if you don't get on with the US too well, try San Francisco out. I did. I had an aprtment up in the Haight Ashbury area for a few months, then moved over to Marin County for a while.... and had a really good time.

Where I live now is similar to Marin County, big trees and a full-on coastline. More hippies there than here, but we're workin on that.

I liked SF.

And Boston. That was nice too. I wouldn't live in either, but enjoyed both places.

Special mention to Georgia. Had some good times there too....
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#17 Jun 28 2008 at 4:07 AM Rating: Decent
God Bless you San Francisco /tear of joy
#18 Jun 28 2008 at 7:58 AM Rating: Excellent
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Smasharoo wrote:

I was going to go with "it's full of Nutters", but close enough, since they're largely *why* it's one of the most expensive places to live in the country.


Yeah, because those crazy bastards at Berkley never produce anything useful. SD on the other hand gave us...let me see here...wasn't the Caesar Salad invented there? Good work, guys.



Never mind that it's expensive because people want to live here. I'm sure that's irrelevant. Get rid of the "nutters" and you could buy a house here for $20K, I'm sure.

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#19REDACTED, Posted: Jun 29 2008 at 4:59 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) and it has nothing to do with the large gay population?
#20 Jun 29 2008 at 6:02 AM Rating: Excellent
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Only drawback? One of the most expensive ******* places to live in the country.


QFT but at least the prices have stabilized over the last year or so - I was just looking on Realtor.com at San Francisco homes. Still too much for me for so little, but the area is awesome - I'm glad I had the chance to live there.

Don't miss it though - very happy back in Maryland despite the frikkin' humidity.

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#21 Jun 30 2008 at 2:43 AM Rating: Default
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City politics in San Diego, ever since I can recall, was always about no-growth versus maybe some very small growth, with no-growth usually winning (although it is a basically irreversible process, thus growth advocates don't need to win often). Biggest insult was "from LA" or "like LA", which thus did grow and have far more reasonable housing prices, compared with the phenomenal cost of living in San Diego within the city limits and the density of cheap housing just outside (mostly to the North, along state route 78).

I mean I know it is basically such a no-brainer that it barely warrants notice, but gbaji is totally wrong. I blame meth.


I'm not clear what you mean by "no-brainer" here. That the incredibly small number of homes in the city itself are very expensive, but the well designed "village" structure of the unicorporated towns within the county are quite well priced and quite affordable for a wide set of income ranges?


The entire bay area is a garbage heap to live in. Expensive. Crowded. Ugly. And full of people who seem to have nothing better to do then get into everyone else's business. For a place that talks about diversity so much, they really have darn little of it.
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The entire bay area is a garbage heap to live in. Expensive. Crowded. Ugly. And full of people who seem to have nothing better to do then get into everyone else's business. For a place that talks about diversity so much, they really have darn little of it.


Where in the Bay Area did you live that was crowded? Granted, rush hour sucks, but thats any big city.

I live on the Peninsula about 30 minutes from SF and SJ and I dont notice it "crowded"
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gbaji wrote:


The entire bay area is a garbage heap to live in. Expensive. Crowded. Ugly. And full of people who seem to have nothing better to do then get into everyone else's business. For a place that talks about diversity so much, they really have darn little of it.


Where in the Bay Area did you live that was crowded?


Myself? Nowhere. Although I did live in Santa Cruz for a few years, but that hardly counts. I've visited many times, but that *also* doesn't count.

What does count is the sheer volume of people I know who have lived there. I do work in a field that tends to have a lot of jobs in that area (or used to anyway). The sheer volume of people I've met who've lived and worked in the Bay area who all basically say the same thing (what I repeated above) might surprise you. I've never met *anyone* who lived/worked up there, then later came to live/work here and said "Gee! I really liked it better in the Bay Area". Not one. A whole bunch of people have said how much more they like living in San Diego compared to the SF area.


I've also only known a few people who've actually chosen to move from San Diego to the Bay area. Some searching for jobs (but that's actually rare unless they really can't find something here). Pretty much all of them returned within a year or two, all with about the same impression.

I don't have to personally live there to figure this out. When nearly every single person I've ever met who did live there all say how crappy it is and how much better it is in San Diego, either they're just lying for some unknown reason, or maybe they know something you dont... ;)

How many people have you met who've previously lived in San Diego who told you they like it better in the Bay area? Any? Sure. It's anecdotal, but we are talking about a pretty subjective subject already, right?
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I do work in a field that tends to have a lot of jobs in that area (or used to anyway). The sheer volume of people I've met who've lived and worked in the Bay area who all basically say the same thing (what I repeated above) might surprise you.


What surprises us all is that *everyone* you meet agrees with everything you think. It's amazing. You just never, ever, meet anyone who's views are even an iota different than your own.


I don't have to personally live there to figure this out. When nearly every single person I've ever met who did live there all say how crappy it is and how much better it is in San Diego, either they're just lying for some unknown reason


The ones who moved to San Diego? There's a shocker. Oddly the people I know who've moved from San Diego to SF find it better.

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