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#52 Jun 30 2008 at 11:09 AM Rating: Good
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I'm aware...my ex husband is British and it was one of the many items we took into consideration when deciding which country to reside/raise a family in. Cost of living in the U.S. won out, obviously.

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Really? Surprised you didn't consider Canada. It's families that do well with all that taxation. Baby bonus, tax credits, maternity leave, university subsidizing, health care and I'm sure many more that I'll be finding out about myself soon enough. Also, all the crazy the **** that goes on in the US, is on a 5-10 year delay before it comes here, generally. Mind you, you do have to accept that so much of your check each week is gone and that your sales tax is through the rough.
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#53 Jun 30 2008 at 11:15 AM Rating: Good
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I dunno. Having a mostly Canadian family and growing up near the border makes me want to live in Canada less. I think Americans think that the countries are relatively indistinguishable from each other with the exception of government policies. In reality, they are really different culturally and I don't think I'd feel as comfortable living in Canada. And if I wanted to live abroad, I'd choose a different country.

My mom has lived here about 36 years and she still sometimes feels different than other Americans.

Re: Nexa, too, I wonder if she and her husband wanted to live in an area where at least one of them either had family or felt like was home.



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#54 Jun 30 2008 at 11:24 AM Rating: Excellent
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Uglysasquatch, Mercenary Major wrote:
Nexa wrote:
I'm aware...my ex husband is British and it was one of the many items we took into consideration when deciding which country to reside/raise a family in. Cost of living in the U.S. won out, obviously.

Nexa


Really? Surprised you didn't consider Canada. It's families that do well with all that taxation. Baby bonus, tax credits, maternity leave, university subsidizing, health care and I'm sure many more that I'll be finding out about myself soon enough. Also, all the crazy the sh*t that goes on in the US, is on a 5-10 year delay before it comes here, generally. Mind you, you do have to accept that so much of your check each week is gone and that your sales tax is through the rough.


We only considered the U.S. or the U.K...family and whatnot.

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#55 Jun 30 2008 at 11:52 AM Rating: Good
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Nexa wrote:

We only considered the U.S. or the U.K...family and whatnot.

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You forgot Poland! Smiley: mad

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#56 Jun 30 2008 at 11:55 AM Rating: Good
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I won't tell you about the UK's statutory paid leave for maternity and paternity leave.

You'd cry.


Enlighten me, oh master of enlghteners.
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#57 Jun 30 2008 at 11:57 AM Rating: Excellent
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Aadyn Litefoot wrote:
Nobby wrote:
I won't tell you about the UK's statutory paid leave for maternity and paternity leave.

You'd cry.


Enlighten me, oh master of enlghteners.
52 weeks for her. 2 weeks for him. Both at full pay.
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#58 Jun 30 2008 at 12:17 PM Rating: Excellent
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It's checking out some of the heavy pronatalist countries like France that really kill ya when looking at family leave. I guess if your country is shrinking, you do what you can.

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#59 Jun 30 2008 at 12:18 PM Rating: Excellent
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Nobby wrote:
Aadyn Litefoot wrote:
Nobby wrote:
I won't tell you about the UK's statutory paid leave for maternity and paternity leave.

You'd cry.


Enlighten me, oh master of enlghteners.
52 weeks for her. 2 weeks for him. Both at full pay.


double-you-tee-eff

you were right...

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#60 Jun 30 2008 at 12:19 PM Rating: Excellent
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Nexa wrote:
It's checking out some of the heavy pronatalist countries like France that really kill ya when looking at family leave. I guess if your country is shrinking, you do what you can.

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Word.

Spain is throwing money at this right now.
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#61 Jun 30 2008 at 1:16 PM Rating: Good
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In that article I read in National Geographic, Russia was right up there as well somewhat surprisingly.
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#62 Jul 02 2008 at 10:23 AM Rating: Decent
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Wint wrote:
In that article I read in National Geographic, Russia was right up there as well somewhat surprisingly.


My theory is that the US would have better maternity leave if we needed population growth, which is currently being supplied by immigration. (Although we may (or may not) have enough bizarre religious have-all-the-kids-you-can'ers to keep things moving along at the moment, my understanding is that their kids don't follow that path, so we'd run out).

Why is population growth needed? Social programs for the elderly, who are growing as a fraction of the population. Ya, it's probably like a pyramid scheme but since everyone is forced by law to play, it sort of works out. And the alternative is unpalatable to most.
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#63 Jul 02 2008 at 1:27 PM Rating: Excellent
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yossarian wrote:
Wint wrote:
In that article I read in National Geographic, Russia was right up there as well somewhat surprisingly.


My theory is that the US would have better maternity leave if we needed population growth, which is currently being supplied by immigration. (Although we may (or may not) have enough bizarre religious have-all-the-kids-you-can'ers to keep things moving along at the moment, my understanding is that their kids don't follow that path, so we'd run out).

Why is population growth needed? Social programs for the elderly, who are growing as a fraction of the population. Ya, it's probably like a pyramid scheme but since everyone is forced by law to play, it sort of works out. And the alternative is unpalatable to most.


***** immigration...we're still above replacement. If it dips under replacement, then we might have something to worry about.

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