Salary and hiring practicesFollow

What the hell do your HR people do? Anything? All of our hiring for head office, gets screened by HR first. They're the ones that place the adds. They need to know salary range because people will ask. The only time our corporate HR don't do the hiring is for on site at hotels, where the HR representative at the hotel (usually the Assistant manager) will do it. Again, they always need the salary range. I don't know, maybe we're ahead of the times, but in an ever decreasing supply of employees, you don't weed people out just because they asked what the salary is. Actually, imo and apparently in our company's opinion, it helps us in the hiring process. If the salary range isn't what someone wanted, then they save both of us time and money.

Like Nobby, I would not apply for a job without the salary details, and if they don't provide such when I email or call before I submit my resume, then I do not send my resume.

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Going to bed.

Nexa

it is incumbant on the bussiness to fill positions for as little money as possible. also, advertising what the position pays would make it a whole lot easier for their competition to buy the better applicants out from under them. only menial labor jobs are going to list the pay in the want add.

always in a hiring situation, the applicant has super high expectations, and the bussiness owner has a low ball starting point in mind that he feels is the least he can offer for the position and still be in the ball park for what that particular type of job pays in that given area. and usually those two figures are seperated buy a wide margine.

what you have to offer the bussiness that other applicants cant will determine how far off that starting offer the owner will come. and keep in mind in todays market, a BA is a dime a dozen. if you dont have something better, or have some work experience in the field to add to it, better take the low ball offer if that is the field you want to work in.

you want to talk about wasting YOUR time, look at it from the owners point of view. every day he wasts a couple hours chatting to someone who isnt really interested in working for him, or working at all, he is just looking for a fat paycheck and has no experience or even an education a cut above the masses and will get indignant unless he offers them 100k, a company car, 5 weeks a year paid vacation and a secretary to do the job he is responsible for.

go through a dozen of them in a week and see if you can still give an interview with a smile.

bottom line, starting jobs pay squat. look for other benifits like health, 401k, paid leave and if the work experience you get will help your resume for the job you really want. and EVERYONE except the bosses kids starts at the BOTTOM of the pay scale unless you are interviewing with a competitor for a position you already hold in another company or you hae a masters degree and 5 plus years work experience in the field.

its just like EQ. you have to grind your way to the top from the BOTTOM.

haha, it varies so greatly even just within Massachusetts that it makes job hunting a nightmare...trust me. I'm using the real estate market to gauge what jobs I apply for.

Step one: This job sounds neat. It pays X amount.
Step two: How much do houses in that area cost?
Step three: Judge whether that's a livable wage when compared to the cost of housing.

I'll seriously take a job making 40k less in Western Mass vs. Eastern Mass.

Also: you should move here. Your expenses would be diminished by my making you dinner a couple times a month!

Nexa

$1400 for one? Damn, and my friend is happy his drops to half price at $300 come September.

I'm not sure Wint, but you can easily research the various daycares and preschools in the area online...

You could also consider moving just before Aedyn hit's school age. That way she's not moving once she's in school, and you'll be cutting down on the daycare expense by only paying for one plus an after-school program.

Nexa

6 weeks, for places licensed.

It's like giving away kittens.

Nexa

I thought it was 12 months, but one of my friends gave birth in mid-November and doesn't go back to work until December 21st. Mind you, she works for a huge utility that's unionized, so she may get more than the average person (may also be saved sick days/personal days and vacation). Dads can take time off as well, but I believe it reduces the time the mother can be off.

Edited, Jun 30th 2008 2:52pm by Uglysasquatch

I'm not 100% sure how it works, but I believe the Federal government pays it and it's somwhere around 65% of your normal pay. The only thing an employer is required, is to ensure your job is available to you once your year is up.

I pay for "short term disability", a benefit through my employer. That would cover 60% of my pay for four weeks, after two weeks of illness/whathaveyou. Other than that, it's using sick and vacation time for me if I get pregnant.

Nexa

I'm aware...my ex husband is British and it was one of the many items we took into consideration when deciding which country to reside/raise a family in. Cost of living in the U.S. won out, obviously.

Nexa

Maybe it's true but the dilemmas that Nexa is dealing with is pretty standard in the worlds of non-profits and the unspoken expectation that magically, your income should come from somewhere else so it shouldn't be a focus. (like a trust fund. Goddamnit. I want one.)



Edited, Jun 30th 2008 3:10pm by Annabella