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#1 Jun 23 2008 at 9:28 AM Rating: Excellent
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'Lost' Amazon tribe a publicity stunt

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June 23, 2008 08:26pm


THE man behind photos of warriors from an "undiscovered" Amazon tribe that were beamed around the world has admitted it was a publicity stunt aimed at raising awareness of logging.

Indigenous tribes expert, José Carlos Meirelles, said the tribe had been known of since 1910, and had been photographed to prove that they still existed in an area endangered by logging, The Guardian reported.

Mr Meirelles, who was working for Funai, the Brazilian Indian Protection Agency dedicated to finding remote tribes and protecting them, said he spent three years gatheiring "evidence" about the tribe, and then planned the publicity to protect them from losing their habitat.

Mr Meirelles, 61, said the "chance encounter" that produced the famous photographs was no accident.

"When we think we might have found an isolated tribe, a sertanista (tribe expert) like me walks in the forest for two or three years to gather evidence and we mark it in our (global positioning system)," he told Al Jazaera in his first interview since the images were released.

"We then map the territory the Indians occupy and we draw that protected territory without making contact with them. And finally we set up a small outpost where we can monitor their protection."

He said the Brazilian state of Acre offered him the use of an aircraft for three days.

"I had years of GPS co-ordinates," he said.

"A friend of mine sent me some Google Earth co-ordinates and maps that showed a strange clearing in the middle of the forest and asked me what that was.

"I saw the co-ordinates and realised that it was close to the area I had been exploring with my son – so I needed to fly over it."

Mr Meirelles said he he flew a 150km-radius route over the border region with Peru and saw huts that belonged to isolated tribes. But he did not see people.

"When the women hear the plane above, they run into the forest, thinking it's a big bird," he said.

"This is such a remote area, planes don't fly over it."

On the third day , Mr Meirelles spotted a large community.

"When I saw them painted red, I was satisfied, I was happy," he said.

"Because painted red means they are ready for war, which to me says they are happy and healthy defending their territory."

Survival International, the organisation that released the pictures along with Funai, conceded yesterday that Funai had known about the nomadic tribe for around two decades.

It defended the disturbance of the tribe saying the international media attention surrounging the images had forced Peru to re-examine its logging policy in the border area where the tribe lives.



Huh, would you look at that? I hear someones credibility falling.
#2 Jun 23 2008 at 9:29 AM Rating: Excellent
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Edited, Jun 23rd 2008 1:29pm by Annabella
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#4 Jun 23 2008 at 9:32 AM Rating: Excellent
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Commander Annabella wrote:
Smiley: mad Damned, I'm karmically pwned. Go to hell, Smasharoo.

Edited, Jun 23rd 2008 1:29pm by Annabella


I followed the original thread and I do have to say I enjoyed watching you eat it, so to speak, Anna.


Smiley: lol Yeah, if it weren't me, I'd think it was hilarious.
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#5 Jun 23 2008 at 9:34 AM Rating: Excellent
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Smiley: mad Damned, I'm karmically pwned. Go to hell, Smasharoo.


I thought the exact same thing when I saw this in the paper yesterday!

Well, except the "karmically pwned" bit. And the bit about Smash going to hell.

But I did think of you and Smash.

Although maybe it was in another context...

Anyway.
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Commander Annabella wrote:
Smiley: mad Damned, I'm karmically pwned. Go to hell, Smasharoo.


I thought the exact same thing when I saw this in the paper yesterday!

Well, except the "karmically pwned" bit. And the bit about Smash going to hell.

But I did think of you and Smash.

Although maybe it was in another context...

Anyway.


Also, when I said Karmically, I didn't mean Karma in the Alla sense but in the actual sense of Karma, like there is a bigger reason that I'm getting bitten in the ***. Anywho...
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Don't feel badly, not everyone is as perceptive as I am.

Also: Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah. Ha.

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Don't feel badly, not everyone is as perceptive as I am.

Also: Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah. Ha.

Smiley: mad I deserve that. Damn you to hell, Smash. To hell.
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Also, when I said Karmically, I didn't mean Karma in the Alla sense but in the actual sense of Karma, like there is a bigger reason that I'm getting bitten in the ***. Anywho...

Maybe you like the teeth marks?
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I'm confused.


The "publicity stunt" aspect of this story appears to be a claim that that the tribe was up to now undiscovered. It turns out that it's been known of for 100 years, and been very carefully skirted around, until one of the surveyors got his hands on a plane.

But all the other aspects of the story remain true. It's an Uncontacted tribe under the meaning of uncontacted. It's a tribe with no direct contact with modern civilisation. These aren't taxpayes, voters, or beneficiaries of social services. As far as the government can determine, they have no modern technology.

I'm not sure what "Age" traditional tribes in the far Amizonia are in... Stone, Bronze, Iron, whatever, but whatever state they are in, they have been deliberately left alone, and that policy, and that tribe and other tribes like it ARE directly under threat from illegal logging.


This is not a hoax. This is not modern people playing dress up with red paint and bows and arrows.


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The "publicity stunt" aspect of this story appears to be a claim that that the tribe was up to now undiscovered. It turns out that it's been known of for 100 years, and been very carefully skirted around, until one of the surveyors got his hands on a plane.

If I followed the article right, it was a tribe that had been documented nearly a century ago, though no one was really sure of the numbers or extent of the population. The village was spotted and Meirelles saw it as an opportunity to further his cause.

The media started losing interest so he drew them back in.

I think the photos are fascinating, and would indeed be disappointed if they were staged...though apparently that is not the case.

I still respect you as a women Anna.
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#13 Jun 24 2008 at 9:55 AM Rating: Decent
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I think the photos are fascinating, and would indeed be disappointed if they were staged...though apparently that is not the case.


You're the reason this sort of thing will continue to happen until the end of time.
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I think the photos are fascinating, and would indeed be disappointed if they were staged...though apparently that is not the case.


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