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#1 Jun 15 2008 at 1:36 PM Rating: Excellent
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http://gizmodo.com/5016550/rfid-robotic-chair-follows-you-around-for-constant-seating

I've decided to assemble my own gang of leathal squishy chairs and set them to amorally terrorizing hapless library patrons at the earliest opertunity!
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#2 Jun 15 2008 at 1:42 PM Rating: Decent
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Those chairs are made of win.
#3 Jun 15 2008 at 2:13 PM Rating: Decent
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So I actually went to a/the(?) bibliotheek while over in Amsterdam and I can't help but wonder how it would scale stairs--seeing as the one I visited was 3/4 floors.

Edit: Yeah never mind. I just watched the video and it would be mostly useless at the one I visited.

Edit2: Or I guess you could pick it up and carry it to the next floor. Smiley: rolleyes

Edited, Jun 15th 2008 6:17pm by Paskil
#4 Jun 15 2008 at 8:17 PM Rating: Excellent
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That dude is totally going to give a speech to a bunch of robot chairs. Probably about their future uprising.
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#5 Jun 15 2008 at 10:32 PM Rating: Default
that is something else.
#6 Jun 16 2008 at 4:22 AM Rating: Decent
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I'd like to see the day those things became self-aware. Instead of launching nukes it would launch encyclopedias at unsuspecting patrons.
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#8 Jun 16 2008 at 7:18 AM Rating: Decent
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On a serious note, that technology would be f*cking awesome at the grocery store when I'm trying to watch the kids, push the cart, and dig for the bag of milk (we're awesome up here) with the best expiry date. Or when I'm carrying the little one and trying to push the heavily laden cart with one hand.
#9 Jun 16 2008 at 7:27 AM Rating: Decent
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Yodabunny wrote:
On a serious note, that technology would be f*cking awesome at the grocery store when I'm trying to watch the kids, push the cart, and dig for the bag of milk (we're awesome up here) with the best expiry date. Or when I'm carrying the little one and trying to push the heavily laden cart with one hand.
I'm having a hard time imagining how a chair is going to help you in this situation. Can't you just set your hand-bag down in the shopping cart?
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#10 Jun 16 2008 at 8:18 AM Rating: Decent
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I'm having a hard time imagining how a chair is going to help you in this situation. Can't you just set your hand-bag down in the shopping cart?


The technology...not the chair. 1 year olds don't always want to be in a shopping cart. I'm a little too straight to have a hand-bag. It would be nice if my shopping cart just followed me around the store.
#11 Jun 16 2008 at 8:24 AM Rating: Good
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Yodabunny wrote:
It would be nice if my shopping cart just followed me around the store.
Get an electronic golf caddy and put a duffel bag on it instead of a golf bag.
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#12 Jun 16 2008 at 8:40 AM Rating: Decent
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It would be nice if my shopping cart just followed me around the store.
Get an electronic golf caddy and put a duffel bag on it instead of a golf bag.


Sweet, I could save gas by driving it to the grocery store with the kids in the bag.
#13 Jun 16 2008 at 1:07 PM Rating: Good
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Maybe this is a crazy, out of the box, idea. But wouldn't it be much much cheaper and easier to just place chairs conveniently around the library instead?

I know. Waaaaay out there...
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#14 Jun 16 2008 at 3:52 PM Rating: Decent
Someone must have hacked gbaji's account. That response was far to short.

Perhaps by limiting so many chairs conveniently cluttering up the library, they have more room for, oh I don't know...shelves of books?


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The application they showed for it was kind of goofy but I liked the proof of concept.
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#17 Jun 16 2008 at 5:31 PM Rating: Decent
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Back in my day we used to have to sit on the floor, a slanted floor, with no carpet, in the rain.
#18 Jun 16 2008 at 8:11 PM Rating: Decent
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This idea just seems really stupid to me, especially the way they decided to apply it in the example used in the link.

I mean, have people become so lazy that they can't take 30 or less seconds to find a chair and sit down in it, rather then having a chair follow them around all day? I really just don't see how something like this could be seriously useful.
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This idea just seems really stupid to me, especially the way they decided to apply it in the example used in the link.

I mean, have people become so lazy that they can't take 30 or less seconds to find a chair and sit down in it, rather then having a chair follow them around all day? I really just don't see how something like this could be seriously useful.


Have you ever sat in an isle in a library trying to find a book on the bottom shelf?

You're carrying a box of tools and need a ladder wherever it is you're carrying the tools to. Do you make 2 trips? Or do you tell your ladder to follow you? I know what I would pick.

You have 10 minutes until a meeting begins and you haven't set up chairs. Do you rush around like a mad man? Or do you tell the chairs to form up?

This was just a proof of concept, it really is a useful technology, but no, you wouldn't use it to have a chair follow all of your customers in a library.

I'm sure they said people were getting lazy when the first washing machines came out too.
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You're carrying a box of tools and need a ladder wherever it is you're carrying the tools to. Do you make 2 trips? Or do you tell your ladder to follow you? I know what I would pick.
Do you know how many lawsuits non-following ladders are responsible for?!
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Do you know how many lawsuits non-following ladders are responsible for?!


Wow, they can make them sew too?
#22 Jun 17 2008 at 6:18 AM Rating: Decent
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Have you seen the video of the robot that does the dishes? Scary,,,they will not be washing breakables anytime soon.

I'm looking forward to the robotic barber.
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What about the robotic bikini waxer?
#24 Jun 18 2008 at 2:20 PM Rating: Decent
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Have you ever sat in an isle in a library trying to find a book on the bottom shelf?


About as often as I've awkwardly attempted to move around someone else browsing right in front of the section I'm pretty sure the book I'm looking for is in.

Imagine the congestion if every single person also had a chair following him around? You'd have to make the aisles twice as wide just to make it possible for two people to pass eachother (with chairs in tow), and you'd still have double the problems with people blocking where you need to get to.

You'd also have to add space to store the chairs that are waiting for folks to use them. I just think it's a monumentally stupid idea. It'll take up more floor space then simply putting chairs around conveniently for people to sit on. Regular, non-moving chairs...

/em waves his cane at the youngsters!

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You're carrying a box of tools and need a ladder wherever it is you're carrying the tools to. Do you make 2 trips? Or do you tell your ladder to follow you? I know what I would pick.


Ok. But how often/long does the ladder follow you around for? Just on the off chance you need one? How many different things do we all walk around with? A ladder? A chair? Perhaps a buffet table (just in case I need a snack). I can see this getting absurd really fast...

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You have 10 minutes until a meeting begins and you haven't set up chairs. Do you rush around like a mad man? Or do you tell the chairs to form up?


Exactly how many meeting rooms don't already have chairs? Usually already sitting in the default position (arranged where people would want them for a meeting). I suppose if you're renting a hall or something that's multi-purpose, this would make sense. But then, if you're waiting until 10 minutes before people arrive to start setting up the chairs, you've already goofed up...

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I'm sure they said people were getting lazy when the first washing machines came out too.


No. I'm pretty sure the overwhelming collective response was "Holy Cow! That'll save me 20 hours of labor a week!!!". You are talking about the single most labor reducing invention in the history of man. No one *ever* thought it wasn't useful, or called anyone who used on "lazy".
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#25 Jun 18 2008 at 2:42 PM Rating: Decent
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Wow, gbaji has just effectively killed the entire argument for autonomous robotics and most technological innovations. It's a shame this technology couldn't be developed for something more essentially useful. Ah, well, just throw out the whole idea then.

Or are you really convinced that The Matrix and Terminator are visions of our own reality? you should be more careful with these public opinions. They might just sic the chairs on you!
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#26 Jun 18 2008 at 3:10 PM Rating: Decent
Cool technology. Doubt that will be the application. But it is very interesting as proof of concept. In the end, stuff like this will be all around us. You'll go to the store and just touch the goods you want and the descendants of van Geest's robotic chair will, say, take them to your car - or to your home. But then maybe you won't even actually be at the store. Maybe you'll be shopping via a video camera moving around by robot.

In fact, a chair is kind of a personal thing. I suppose your chair could follow you around: to your car, to the ballgame, to the movie...maybe it would have your computer, or a raincoat inside. From an energy standpoint, it seems unlikely in the near future but I can imagine a world where that just isn't a problem. In fact, I can imagine a world where wealth is measured in terms of energy output. But it is unlikely to change in the near future.

The least futuristic part of the story, for me, is the library. Yes, old stuff will still be there, on paper, much as I'm sure there is still music and sound recordings only on vinyl. I just don't think seating will be your trouble.
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