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#27 Jun 10 2008 at 8:10 AM Rating: Excellent
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Show me that if given a 'test of the facts' that the person doing the sudoku will get a lower score than the person sitting straight and tall with hands in lap. Then it'll be evidence.


Okay, I'll get right on that after I finish proving that talking on my cell phone doesn't affect my driving.

We get it. You like your little puzzle game and you have a learning disability. So get excused should you be called upon to serve.

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Nail on the head here, particularly illustrated when one tries to make "sitting straight and tall with hands in lap" sound derisive. Elinda, they're not multi-tasking, they're being irresponsible with and disrespectful of the lives of others.
#28 Jun 10 2008 at 8:11 AM Rating: Decent
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I only skimmed the thread and never read the article...the jurors getting charged with anything?
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#29 Jun 10 2008 at 8:14 AM Rating: Good
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Also general studies done on multi-tasking versus doing each task one at a time. Even for women, tasks done one at a time in sequence were performed in a shorter time-frame over-all and were done better, than the same tasks done together.

For examples 3 tasks done one after the other that take 5 minutes each, so 15 minutes in total, would take something like 20 minutes, if you do all three together from the start.
#30 Jun 10 2008 at 8:14 AM Rating: Excellent
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Under Australian law no action can be taken against the jurors. Kinda too bad, since:

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Sydney District Court Judge Peter Zahra ended the trial Tuesday for two men facing a possible life sentence for drug conspiracy charges. The trial had been running for 66 days and had cost taxpayers an estimated 1 million Australian dollars (US$950,000).


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#31 Jun 10 2008 at 8:22 AM Rating: Good
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Under Australian law no action can be taken against the jurors. Kinda too bad, since:

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Sydney District Court Judge Peter Zahra ended the trial Tuesday for two men facing a possible life sentence for drug conspiracy charges. The trial had been running for 66 days and had cost taxpayers an estimated 1 million Australian dollars (US$950,000).



I know. Smiley: frown Just add it to the list of hair-raising jury and legal storie out there. Sort of related, there's a book called "Serial Liars" that makes me wish we'd move from the Westminster model of law, to the European and Japanese model of law.
#32 Jun 10 2008 at 8:28 AM Rating: Good
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Barkingturtle wrote:
Elinda wrote:


Show me that if given a 'test of the facts' that the person doing the sudoku will get a lower score than the person sitting straight and tall with hands in lap. Then it'll be evidence.


Okay, I'll get right on that after I finish proving that talking on my cell phone doesn't affect my driving.

We get it. You like your little puzzle game and you have a learning disability. So get excused should you be called upon to serve.


You said it yourself, it is a distraction;



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Sudoku is still my favorite distraction for flights, dull meetings, waiting rooms, etc. I do the newpaper types versus electronic versions. While it's a distraction I still have a pretty good ability to follow along with whats being said and done around me.


How would you feel, Elinda if you or someone very close to you had their life in the hands of someone that was busy playing games? This isn't a small business meeting. We're talking about affecting other people's lives. Even if you claim to have a pretty good ability to follow along you're not 100% focused. In small meetings it's not as important (although I consider it extremely rude no matter how boring it is to be there) but in trial cases you're talking about people's lives, their businesses, millions of dollars, time and energy from everyone involved. Some ADD ***** like you comes along and completely wastes everybody's time and efforts. That's fuсking rude and it's definitely not justice. If you don't feel you can do the duties of being a juror then why are you wasting not only your time but everyone else's and someone's life can be completely changed by it. Way to fuсk everyone up all for your selfish needs.
#33 Jun 10 2008 at 9:05 AM Rating: Good
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Juror miscondcut is fairly common, but it's all a matter of degree and the discretion of the judge as to how much of an affect it is on the outcome of the trial. The more serious the offense is and whether lives and a large amount of money is at stake, the judge has more discretion. Besides, all this would have been brought up on appeal if the trial continued.

And Sudoku bugs me.
#34 Jun 10 2008 at 3:19 PM Rating: Excellent
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Sudoku is boring; unlike a crossword puzzle, there's no cleverness in solving it.

#35 Jun 10 2008 at 4:25 PM Rating: Good
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Elinda is clearly too busy playing Sudoku to respond anymore.

Carry on.
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#36 Jun 10 2008 at 5:05 PM Rating: Good
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Tare wrote:
Elinda is clearly too busy playing Sudoku to respond anymore.
Shouldn't she be able to play AND respond?
#37 Jun 10 2008 at 5:36 PM Rating: Excellent
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Atomicflea wrote:
Tare wrote:
Elinda is clearly too busy playing Sudoku to respond anymore.
Shouldn't she be able to play AND respond?


Only if she's tested. Or someone's life hangs in the balance.

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