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I agree. There are certain commands and actions that seem to have become nearly universal amongst games. The commands and targeting and inspecting and so-forth in LOTRO and every other game I've played in the last couple years are pretty close to the same as they are in WoW. It seems the industry is adopting an unofficial "standard" and any game that doesn't want its players to have a "ewww! clunky!" reaction whenever they try to play after having played something else for a while needs to get on board.

Katigir,
Lay on hands is now listed under the alternate abilities. Go there to make a hot key for it.

Tab targetting in EQ defaults to your F8 key - hitting it will target the closest mob (no idea why F8). You can also set a key to tab through targets from the control panel. Targets through closest to farthest. Many people also have the HoTT leadership ability as well, that will display your targets target, and then you can just click on the appropriate box to target that mob. It's a life-saver for healers.

While you don't have an open camera ability (as fas as I know) you can scroll in and out with a mouse wheel easy enough, and there are lots of different camera angles you can use if you take the time to get used to them. I usually play in the first person but then scrolled way out. The item comparison does suck...it's not ever been upgraded. Though lots of other stuff has...you just have to relearn the tricks.

After playing Vanguard, LOTRO and EQ somewhat simoutaneously I've decided I like Vanguards targetting system the best, as there you actually have an offense and defense target (you can heal an individual group member without ever 'untargetting' the mob)...but relatively little difference between EQ and LOTRO. Never played EQ2.



Edited, Jun 8th 2008 3:22pm by Elinda

In WoW you can do the same with macros using [Focus].

You set your tank as your focus using one macro:

/focus target

Then you can have another macro (or a set of them for different levels of heals):

/cast [target=focus] Greater Heal (rank 6)

If you want to make sure you bandage yourself instead of another player (yes, this is for warlocks and melees):

/use [target=player] Heavy Netherweave Bandage

I'm pretty sure the rationale for not having a more complex interface in WoW was that they'd decided to let players modify and customize the default interface with macros like that, at least until players' preferences became clear.



Edited, Jun 8th 2008 3:28pm by Samira

I solve this problem by never targetting anyone other the main tank . If anyone other than the main tank is being hit, well thats their own bloody fault

This is why my EQ Guildies prefered me playing a Chanter.

You can also target the Mob and heal through that. Say the MT loses aggro and the mob attacks someone else. If you are a healer you can cast a heal and it will heal whoever has aggro at the moment. If youre a fighter you can cast intercede.

F8 is the same in EQ2 as EQ1. It will target the nearest mob. But tab also works.

That's another thing about EQ, having to be online to sell anything. Maybe it's not something they can easily change as far as the coding, but is offline selling even something they're looking at? I know one argument for it is the fact that so many people have multiple accounts *just* so they can sell.

The funny thing is that, once upon a time, EQ's controls felt instinctive. I used to be running around in third person, pulling mobs, mezzing, charming, slowing, hasting, etc etc (bard) and the problem was never "How do I target this mob?"

On the other hand, I was good for occassionally hitting the wrong song hotkey leading to some good times.

Raheli says to the group, 'Accidentally Gated the mob. That's probably gonna cause a train.'

Yeah, but obviously that was because EQ was the only animal of its kind, and we learned to play that way.

I know that for the longest time, when I played a new MMO, I still "steered" using the number pad, and couldn't get used to tabbing to target. It's just that after a period of time, I've picked up on the WASD movement and now I'm having trouble letting go.

Under the Alt O list of options, you can change what nearly every keyboard command stands for, including changing movement to WASD and target to TAB if that is what you have grown more comfortable with, you can also change the colors of the various text message to whatever color you are used to now as well.

Edited, Jun 10th 2008 9:06am by fhrugby

You can tab target in EQ. I remember because I did it all the time back when I played. Thanks for the item stats comparison. I was trying to figure out how to do that. When I logged on then nobody I remember was on. I think they all quit. I'll probably just travel and see the zones and changes and goof off here and there and then just quit. Took me forever to figure out how to dismount too.

I still need to log in and go visit VT and the Sleepers tomb, since they are open zones now.

My husband logged in last night. There was the same SK frog sitting in the same spot in the Guild Lobby as he was 4 months ago. He told my hubby to go back to his other games....

In other exciting gaming news...I completed book 12 in Lotro last night and got Elronds Cape!