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Oh please, Smash, you are basing it on what? People who work with uncontacted tribes have to be poor and noble and never try to raise money because they can magically do their work with no funding?
They have every right to raise money any way they want. In this case, they chose a PR campaign about a tribe that *HAS HAD CONTACT* with the outside world, but is isolated.
But they haven't. Where is your evidence that this specific tribe have had contact with the outside world, b/c before 2007, people had no documentation that they existed?
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That seems like all or nothing thinking. This is what happens but this isn't the first documentation or description of this tribe as being uncontacted, nor is their particular situation unique. It only seems magical to people who haven't looked at this actual situation before. Really, what they are presenting isn't all that surprising.
No, what's surprising is that people like you don't take the fifteen seconds required to understand what "uncontacted" actually means.
I do know what uncontacted means. What I am saying is that there is a variation amongst tribes themselves, including those with a low level of contact and those few that are really uncontacted.
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If you don't show pictures, people don't care. People like soundbites and like it or not, most of us who work in the non-profit world know that the only way to raise money is to play off people's emotions, because giving them facts doesn't mean much.
No sh*t. Making my case that it's a PR campaign after arguing it wasn't doesn't make you seem more right. It does make you seem more petty and ignorant. If that's your goal, kudos.
You are the one saying that this organization was deliberately deceiving the public and I'm saying that they are raising money, but it doesn't necessarily discredit the organization.
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You might extrapolate the fantasy about people being frozen in time but that does not necessarily mean that everyone has the same Rousseauesque kind of fantasy world. So you might want to check that out for yourself.
I'm not sure what this even means. I'm not the one romanticizing a tribe of people who choose to live in isolation. That would be you. I don't find a culture who chooses to maintain a way of life consistent with 500 years ago particularly compelling or fascinating. You only do because you know absolutely nothing about the culture. If this was a press release about this same "uncontacted" tribe performing female circumcision you'd be up in arms demanding we run in and civilize them. Why? Because you're a sucker.
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No, you are fantasizing about intentions and that by thinking it can only possibly be romanticizing, says alot about you and how you conceptualize the world.
Edited, Jun 2nd 2008 11:17am by Annabella