Maybe you've all seen these latest released pictures of the uncontacted tribe in Brazil.
They're pretty cool pictures, but I suspect their release is the beginning of the end of this way of life for these people.
There are efforts underway to try and preserve this, and other native tribes privacy, but they are being undermined by lumber poachers.
Ultimately though, society will reach and bring these people into the folds of civilization. It seems tragic, but it also seems inevitable in the face of evolution. I mean cripes, them natives in the picture shooting arrows at the helicopter should be arrested. I can't imagine that's a legal activity in Brazil.
We can't let people run about the jungles like uncivilized barbarians can we?
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Alma wrote:
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"Uncontacted" is a ******* joke term. What it actually means is "wary of outsiders". This "Uncontacted" tribe could be drinking Coca-Cola and still meet the arbitrary definition. This is an elaborate PR campaign, nothing more.
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Smasharoo wrote:
tribe could be drinking Coca-Cola and still meet the arbitrary definition.
Edited, Jun 2nd 2008 4:18pm by Elinda
Alma wrote:
I lost my post
Smasharoo wrote:
"Uncontacted" is a @#%^ing joke term. What it actually means is "wary of outsiders". This "Uncontacted" tribe could be drinking Coca-Cola and still meet the arbitrary definition. This is an elaborate PR campaign, nothing more.
No, it means uncontacted and for some, like on North Sentinel Island, even by people who are native of islands nearby and share a genetic heritage. It's not a PR campaign, especially with this particular tribe and the few uncontacted ones left, whose lifestyle is being slowly destroyed by industrialization and decimation of the rainforest. Learning about uncontacted peoples is one of the many bizarre interests that I have.
When these tribes are contacted by outsiders, often it results is death of much of the tribe, like the Jarawa, b/c of disease. They are rare but mostly in the islands off of Southern India and parts of the Amazonian rainforest. The prevailing thought now is no contact is the best way to go.
Do you need need to be schooled about how you guys are just like the Sentinelese?
Edited, Jun 2nd 2008 10:29am by Annabella
Turin wrote:
Seriously, what the f*ck nature?
Well, according to the article:
So they're not unaware of modern civilization. They choose not to engage it, not that I particularly blame them.
Smash even said they were wary of outsiders, which is confirmed by the article. Not sure what the difference is between what he said and what you're saying.
Quote:
Anthropologists say almost all of these tribes know about western civilization and have sporadic contact with prospectors, rubber tappers and loggers, but choose to turn their backs on civilization, usually because they have been attacked.
"It's a choice they made to remain isolated or maintain only occasional contacts, but these tribes usually obtain some modern goods through trading with other Indians," said Bernardo Beronde, an anthropologist who works in the region.
"It's a choice they made to remain isolated or maintain only occasional contacts, but these tribes usually obtain some modern goods through trading with other Indians," said Bernardo Beronde, an anthropologist who works in the region.
So they're not unaware of modern civilization. They choose not to engage it, not that I particularly blame them.
Smash even said they were wary of outsiders, which is confirmed by the article. Not sure what the difference is between what he said and what you're saying.
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
Samira wrote:
Well, according to the article:
So they're not unaware of modern civilization. They choose not to engage it, not that I particularly blame them.
Smash even said they were wary of outsiders, which is confirmed by the article. Not sure what the difference is between what he said and what you're saying.
Quote:
Anthropologists say almost all of these tribes know about western civilization and have sporadic contact with prospectors, rubber tappers and loggers, but choose to turn their backs on civilization, usually because they have been attacked.
"It's a choice they made to remain isolated or maintain only occasional contacts, but these tribes usually obtain some modern goods through trading with other Indians," said Bernardo Beronde, an anthropologist who works in the region.
"It's a choice they made to remain isolated or maintain only occasional contacts, but these tribes usually obtain some modern goods through trading with other Indians," said Bernardo Beronde, an anthropologist who works in the region.
So they're not unaware of modern civilization. They choose not to engage it, not that I particularly blame them.
Smash even said they were wary of outsiders, which is confirmed by the article. Not sure what the difference is between what he said and what you're saying.
They have no confirmation whether this particular tribe has contact with people in the past. They don't know enough about their history and there is no documented contact with the Metyktire. I think they were making reference to uncontacted tribes in the area in a general way.
Edited, Jun 2nd 2008 10:32am by Annabella
Turin wrote:
Seriously, what the f*ck nature?
Commander Annabella wrote:
Smasharoo wrote:
"Uncontacted" is a @#%^ing joke term. What it actually means is "wary of outsiders". This "Uncontacted" tribe could be drinking Coca-Cola and still meet the arbitrary definition. This is an elaborate PR campaign, nothing more.
No, it means uncontacted and for some, like on North Sentinel Island, even by people who are native of islands nearby and share a genetic heritage. It's not a PR campaign, especially with this particular tribe and the few uncontacted ones left, whose lifestyle is being slowly destroyed by industrialization and decimation of the rainforest. Learning about uncontacted peoples is one of the many bizarre interests that I have.
When these tribes are contacted by outsiders, often it results is death of much of the tribe, like the Jarawa, b/c of disease. They are rare but mostly in the islands off of Southern India and parts of the Amazonian rainforest. The prevailing thought now is no contact is the best way to go.
Do you need need to be schooled about how you guys are just like the Sentinelese?
Edited, Jun 2nd 2008 10:29am by Annabella
Did you read the article? It even says that the tribes have had contact with out siders. In this case, it appears that "uncontacted" simply means "unstudied by anthropoligists moving into their village."
Nexa
“It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes. But a half-wit remains a half-wit, and the emperor remains an emperor.â€
― Neil Gaiman, The Sandman, Vol. 9: The Kindly Ones
― Neil Gaiman, The Sandman, Vol. 9: The Kindly Ones
Yes, the article claims that this particular tribes way of life is being threatened by the poachers, and so the pictures were released. I just wonder to what end. Will we eventually have 300 foot high fences all around this tribe to keep people out. Will the tribe become an exhibit at the same time it becomes a research subject?
It's really sad to see the end of these small tibal villages, but haven't we moved beyond tribalism? Shouldn't we be reaching out to these people to help show them the way to democracy, flush toilets and the combustion engine?
Why do we want to preserve their way of life while at the same time declaring many of their activities illegal, immoral or unhealthy for the rest of society.
If find it all hard to reconcile....and depressing.
It's really sad to see the end of these small tibal villages, but haven't we moved beyond tribalism? Shouldn't we be reaching out to these people to help show them the way to democracy, flush toilets and the combustion engine?
Why do we want to preserve their way of life while at the same time declaring many of their activities illegal, immoral or unhealthy for the rest of society.
If find it all hard to reconcile....and depressing.
Alma wrote:
I lost my post
Commander Annabella wrote:
They have no confirmation whether this particular tribe has contact with people in the past. They don't know enough about their history and there is no documented contact with the Metyktire. I think they were making reference to uncontacted tribes in the area in a general way.
Edited, Jun 2nd 2008 10:32am by Annabella
You'd think if they were really so concerned and truly thought they were uncontacted in any way, that they might have found a less invasive and potentially upsetting way of snapping a photo then to do a fly by just over their houses. Of course, there's no where in the world that doesn't have planes flying by, so maybe it wasn't too traumatic.
What was wrong with satellite imaging?
Nexa
“It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes. But a half-wit remains a half-wit, and the emperor remains an emperor.â€
― Neil Gaiman, The Sandman, Vol. 9: The Kindly Ones
― Neil Gaiman, The Sandman, Vol. 9: The Kindly Ones
Nexa wrote:
Commander Annabella wrote:
Smasharoo wrote:
"Uncontacted" is a @#%^ing joke term. What it actually means is "wary of outsiders". This "Uncontacted" tribe could be drinking Coca-Cola and still meet the arbitrary definition. This is an elaborate PR campaign, nothing more.
No, it means uncontacted and for some, like on North Sentinel Island, even by people who are native of islands nearby and share a genetic heritage. It's not a PR campaign, especially with this particular tribe and the few uncontacted ones left, whose lifestyle is being slowly destroyed by industrialization and decimation of the rainforest. Learning about uncontacted peoples is one of the many bizarre interests that I have.
When these tribes are contacted by outsiders, often it results is death of much of the tribe, like the Jarawa, b/c of disease. They are rare but mostly in the islands off of Southern India and parts of the Amazonian rainforest. The prevailing thought now is no contact is the best way to go.
Do you need need to be schooled about how you guys are just like the Sentinelese?
Edited, Jun 2nd 2008 10:29am by Annabella
Did you read the article? It even says that the tribes have had contact with out siders. In this case, it appears that "uncontacted" simply means "unstudied by anthropoligists moving into their village."
Nexa
Yes, I did and I responded. Seriously, read the article again. They are conflating the experiences of various tribes. They are uncontacted. Westerners only recently discovered that they existed, in 2007. In fact, I was surprised to read that Mirelles learned anything from 2004.
Turin wrote:
Seriously, what the f*ck nature?
No, it means uncontacted and for some, like on North Sentinel Island, even by people who are native of islands nearby and share a genetic heritage. It's not a PR campaign
It's *literally* a press release.
"We put the photos out because if things continue the way they are going, these people are going to disappear," said Jose Carlos Meirelles, who coordinates government efforts to protect four "uncontacted" tribes for Brazil's National Indian Foundation.
How @#%^ing naive are you, exactly?
Edited, Jun 2nd 2008 10:43am by Smasharoo
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To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
Commander Annabella wrote:
Yes, I did and I responded. Seriously, read the article again. They are conflating the experiences of various tribes. They are uncontacted. Westerners only recently discovered that they existed, in 2007. In fact, I was surprised to read that Mirelles learned anything from 2004.
Maybe it's true, maybe they're completely uncontacted and not split off from another tribe in the area that has had contact...maybe. Excuse me if I'm skeptical.
Regardless, I hope they don't get screwed, but that seems unlikely.
Nexa
“It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes. But a half-wit remains a half-wit, and the emperor remains an emperor.â€
― Neil Gaiman, The Sandman, Vol. 9: The Kindly Ones
― Neil Gaiman, The Sandman, Vol. 9: The Kindly Ones
Smasharoo wrote:
No, it means uncontacted and for some, like on North Sentinel Island, even by people who are native of islands nearby and share a genetic heritage. It's not a PR campaign
It's *literally* a press release.
"We put the photos out because if things continue the way they are going, these people are going to disappear," said Jose Carlos Meirelles, who coordinates government efforts to protect four "uncontacted" tribes for Brazil's National Indian Foundation.
How @#%^ing naive are you, exactly?
Edited, Jun 2nd 2008 10:43am by Smasharoo
Ok, Smash, I'm sure that Survival International cooked up some elaborate ruse for the sake of hoodwinking the innocent public. Goddamned do gooders, always lying to the public.
Turin wrote:
Seriously, what the f*ck nature?
Nexa wrote:
Commander Annabella wrote:
Yes, I did and I responded. Seriously, read the article again. They are conflating the experiences of various tribes. They are uncontacted. Westerners only recently discovered that they existed, in 2007. In fact, I was surprised to read that Mirelles learned anything from 2004.
Maybe it's true, maybe they're completely uncontacted and not split off from another tribe in the area that has had contact...maybe. Excuse me if I'm skeptical.
Regardless, I hope they don't get screwed, but that seems unlikely.
Nexa
Yeah, that would probably be the likeliest scenario. I'd just be curious to learn more and exactly why a split occurred if it did, since they may be related to a nearby tribe.
Turin wrote:
Seriously, what the f*ck nature?
Ok, Smash, I'm sure that Survival International cooked up some elaborate ruse for the sake of hoodwinking the innocent public.
Where's the ruse? The clearly define "uncontacted" as not meaning "have had no contact with the outside world".
The idea is to capture the imagination of morons who won't get that far and who will assume that it's a tribe of indigenous people "frozen in time!!oneone!" who needs to be protected more than the tribe who wears "Micheal Jordan" tee shirts, because the noble savage is just so appealing to well off whites.
This a naked money raising PR campaign, nothing more. If you want to jump on the sucker train because you feel bad for the poor, poor, exploited cartoon characters of a tribe fighting a noble battle against progress, go for it. Forgive me if I laugh at you in the process, though.
Disclaimer:
To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
Smasharoo wrote:
Ok, Smash, I'm sure that Survival International cooked up some elaborate ruse for the sake of hoodwinking the innocent public.
Where's the ruse? The clearly define "uncontacted" as not meaning "have had no contact with the outside world".
The idea is to capture the imagination of morons who won't get that far and who will assume that it's a tribe of indigenous people "frozen in time!!oneone!" who needs to be protected more than the tribe who wears "Micheal Jordan" tee shirts, because the noble savage is just so appealing to well off whites.
This a naked money raising PR campaign, nothing more. If you want to jump on the sucker train because you feel bad for the poor, poor, exploited cartoon characters of a tribe fighting a noble battle against progress, go for it. Forgive me if I laugh at you in the process, though.
Oh please, Smash, you are basing it on what? People who work with uncontacted tribes have to be poor and noble and never try to raise money because they can magically do their work with no funding? That seems like all or nothing thinking. This is what happens but this isn't the first documentation or description of this tribe as being uncontacted, nor is their particular situation unique. It only seems magical to people who haven't looked at this actual situation before. Really, what they are presenting isn't all that surprising.
If you don't show pictures, people don't care. People like soundbites and like it or not, most of us who work in the non-profit world know that the only way to raise money is to play off people's emotions, because giving them facts doesn't mean much.
You might extrapolate the fantasy about people being frozen in time but that does not necessarily mean that everyone has the same Rousseauesque kind of fantasy world. So you might want to check that out for yourself.
Edited, Jun 2nd 2008 10:57am by Annabella
Turin wrote:
Seriously, what the f*ck nature?
I was just checking out Survival International's website. It seems like a decent organization, but even they don't go beyond defining "uncontacted tribes" as anything other than "Over 100 tribes around the world choose to reject contact with outsiders."
So, it's a choice to not have a *relationship* with the outside world, not the lack of *awareness* of it.
Nexa
So, it's a choice to not have a *relationship* with the outside world, not the lack of *awareness* of it.
Nexa
“It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes. But a half-wit remains a half-wit, and the emperor remains an emperor.â€
― Neil Gaiman, The Sandman, Vol. 9: The Kindly Ones
― Neil Gaiman, The Sandman, Vol. 9: The Kindly Ones
Is there a category for "tribes that tried having a relationship with the outside world, but it really didn't work out, so they broke up"?
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
Samira wrote:
Is there a category for "tribes that tried having a relationship with the outside world, but it really didn't work out, so they broke up"?
Republicans?
Nexa
“It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes. But a half-wit remains a half-wit, and the emperor remains an emperor.â€
― Neil Gaiman, The Sandman, Vol. 9: The Kindly Ones
― Neil Gaiman, The Sandman, Vol. 9: The Kindly Ones
Nexa wrote:
Samira wrote:
Is there a category for "tribes that tried having a relationship with the outside world, but it really didn't work out, so they broke up"?
Republicans?
Nexa
Touché.
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
Oh please, Smash, you are basing it on what? People who work with uncontacted tribes have to be poor and noble and never try to raise money because they can magically do their work with no funding?
They have every right to raise money any way they want. In this case, they chose a PR campaign about a tribe that *HAS HAD CONTACT* with the outside world, but is isolated.
That seems like all or nothing thinking. This is what happens but this isn't the first documentation or description of this tribe as being uncontacted, nor is their particular situation unique. It only seems magical to people who haven't looked at this actual situation before. Really, what they are presenting isn't all that surprising.
No, what's surprising is that people like you don't take the fifteen seconds required to understand what "uncontacted" actually means.
If you don't show pictures, people don't care. People like soundbites and like it or not, most of us who work in the non-profit world know that the only way to raise money is to play off people's emotions, because giving them facts doesn't mean much.
No ****. Making my case that it's a PR campaign after arguing it wasn't doesn't make you seem more right. It does make you seem more petty and ignorant. If that's your goal, kudos.
You might extrapolate the fantasy about people being frozen in time but that does not necessarily mean that everyone has the same Rousseauesque kind of fantasy world. So you might want to check that out for yourself.
I'm not sure what this even means. I'm not the one romanticizing a tribe of people who choose to live in isolation. That would be you. I don't find a culture who chooses to maintain a way of life consistent with 500 years ago particularly compelling or fascinating. You only do because you know absolutely nothing about the culture. If this was a press release about this same "uncontacted" tribe performing female circumcision you'd be up in arms demanding we run in and civilize them. Why? Because you're a sucker.
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To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
Smasharoo wrote:
If this was a press release about this same "uncontacted" tribe performing female circumcision you'd be up in arms demanding we run in and civilize them.
That was the original intent but the tribe either couldn't read or ignored the big "Show us your *****" sign painted on the underside of the plain.
They had beads ready and everything.
Nexa wrote:
I was just checking out Survival International's website. It seems like a decent organization, but even they don't go beyond defining "uncontacted tribes" as anything other than "Over 100 tribes around the world choose to reject contact with outsiders."
So, it's a choice to not have a *relationship* with the outside world, not the lack of *awareness* of it.
Nexa
So, it's a choice to not have a *relationship* with the outside world, not the lack of *awareness* of it.
Nexa
Saying they reject it is using language that suggests that they don't want contact, rather than been deprived of contact, with their attempt to be anti-colonialist. They used to be called isolated but that was considered pejorative. Some uncontacted groups have had isolated encounters with westerners, this particular group hasn't, only with a related tribe.
Turin wrote:
Seriously, what the f*ck nature?
Quote:
Smasharoo wrote:
Oh please, Smash, you are basing it on what? People who work with uncontacted tribes have to be poor and noble and never try to raise money because they can magically do their work with no funding?
They have every right to raise money any way they want. In this case, they chose a PR campaign about a tribe that *HAS HAD CONTACT* with the outside world, but is isolated.
But they haven't. Where is your evidence that this specific tribe have had contact with the outside world, b/c before 2007, people had no documentation that they existed?
Quote:
That seems like all or nothing thinking. This is what happens but this isn't the first documentation or description of this tribe as being uncontacted, nor is their particular situation unique. It only seems magical to people who haven't looked at this actual situation before. Really, what they are presenting isn't all that surprising.
No, what's surprising is that people like you don't take the fifteen seconds required to understand what "uncontacted" actually means.
I do know what uncontacted means. What I am saying is that there is a variation amongst tribes themselves, including those with a low level of contact and those few that are really uncontacted.
Quote:
If you don't show pictures, people don't care. People like soundbites and like it or not, most of us who work in the non-profit world know that the only way to raise money is to play off people's emotions, because giving them facts doesn't mean much.
No sh*t. Making my case that it's a PR campaign after arguing it wasn't doesn't make you seem more right. It does make you seem more petty and ignorant. If that's your goal, kudos.
You are the one saying that this organization was deliberately deceiving the public and I'm saying that they are raising money, but it doesn't necessarily discredit the organization.
Quote:
You might extrapolate the fantasy about people being frozen in time but that does not necessarily mean that everyone has the same Rousseauesque kind of fantasy world. So you might want to check that out for yourself.
I'm not sure what this even means. I'm not the one romanticizing a tribe of people who choose to live in isolation. That would be you. I don't find a culture who chooses to maintain a way of life consistent with 500 years ago particularly compelling or fascinating. You only do because you know absolutely nothing about the culture. If this was a press release about this same "uncontacted" tribe performing female circumcision you'd be up in arms demanding we run in and civilize them. Why? Because you're a sucker.
No, you are fantasizing about intentions and that by thinking it can only possibly be romanticizing, says alot about you and how you conceptualize the world.
Edited, Jun 2nd 2008 11:17am by Annabella
Turin wrote:
Seriously, what the f*ck nature?
Commander Annabella wrote:
Nexa wrote:
I was just checking out Survival International's website. It seems like a decent organization, but even they don't go beyond defining "uncontacted tribes" as anything other than "Over 100 tribes around the world choose to reject contact with outsiders."
So, it's a choice to not have a *relationship* with the outside world, not the lack of *awareness* of it.
Nexa
So, it's a choice to not have a *relationship* with the outside world, not the lack of *awareness* of it.
Nexa
Saying they reject it is using language that suggests that they don't want contact, rather than been deprived of contact, with their attempt to be anti-colonialist. They used to be called isolated but that was considered pejorative. Some uncontacted groups have had isolated encounters with westerners, this particular group hasn't, only with a related tribe.
Yes, exactly. We have no idea if this group hasn't had contact...since we haven't asked, haha, which would kind of defeat the purpose. Since there are evidently some 25ish tribes in the area, and other have had contact, and since I'm sure you and I can agree that this one wasn't dropped off by aliens in the middle of the forest, that the most likely scenario by far is that this group split off from another tribe...
Even the press is making sure to put quotes around "uncontacted" since it's deceptive and even Survival International defines it as those groups who "choose to reject contact". I'm unsure as to why you're so adamant that this group, who we can't research by virtue of it being uncontacted...is truly uncontacted when we know that that's almost entirely impossible.
Nexa
“It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes. But a half-wit remains a half-wit, and the emperor remains an emperor.â€
― Neil Gaiman, The Sandman, Vol. 9: The Kindly Ones
― Neil Gaiman, The Sandman, Vol. 9: The Kindly Ones
Some uncontacted groups have had isolated encounters with westerners, this particular group hasn't, only with a related tribe.
Oh for **** sake. I've never had encounters with the Chinese. Only through Walmart. Someone give me money.
I wish the plane had just dropped measles infected blankets on them and saved time.
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To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
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