Does Barry Hussein have a new problem to deal with?Follow

Whoops, so it does. I rescind my earlier statement then although I still feel that, in the context you're using it, it's misleading.

Almost a lie, even

Again... huh?

I've never said that Bush lied on accident. I said that he deliberately manipulated intelligence and provided a false view of the information to make his case for the war. Now, you might feel that I'm wrong in saying that but it doesn't change my definition of a lie.

Probably.

Or else I'm just ill-spoken

Edit: Google gives 1,280,000 returns for the quoted phrase "on accident" (and the first one is an admonishment not to use it). Here's an article about it!

Edited, May 29th 2008 7:25pm by Jophiel

I pick up the phase "on accident" from my family, so expect it a mid-west or Chicago thing.

Kinda of like how a root bear float is called Black Cows.

According to the nutball who researched this, it's a national crisis affecting our youth.

If that's the case, it'll be correct shortly and "by accident" will be arcane. Which isn't something that really bothers me, although it does make Nexa ******* insane.

"I stumbled into the nickelodeon by accident and saw a reel which was just the cat's pyjamas!"

I'm working diligently to bring back "23 skidoo"

Perhaps not. Don't really remember. I'm pretty sure you defended people who did. You certainly took part in several pages of debate over the correct definition of the word "lie", and you *didn't* have the same viewpoint on it as you do in this thread.


False. You're probably thinking of me, frankly. I'd call Obama's mistake a lie. I don't think intent matters much in most situations, though.

Yeah! And... remeber that time when I did that thing?! Yeah, the thing! You remember, right?

You forgot "As I've said several times" and "I remember no one had an answer for it then, either".

Problem?? Hell, this might finally give Obama the cred he needs among white Catholic voters!

http://89infdivww2.org//home/list_p.htm

No record of a C.W Payne having served in the 89th Div in World War II.

Totem

Ok, I can see that, Smash. However, it remains to be seen if this mysterious uncle who didn't want to be interviewed didn't want to talk to the press because he suffered so much from PTSD or because he was never actually there. All we know at this point is that a Pfc Payne served with the 89th, but his initials are different from the uncle of the leading Democratic presidential candidate.

Totem

Ok, I can see that, Smash. However, it remains to be seen if this mysterious uncle who didn't want to be interviewed didn't want to talk to the press because he suffered so much from PTSD or because he was never actually there. All we know at this point is that a Pfc Payne served with the 89th, but his initials are different from the uncle of the leading Democratic presidential candidate.

Yeah, ok. Maybe the guy lied about it. Maybe Obama didn't fact check someone's story about his great uncle. It's not relevant because he (Obama) pretty clearly didn't fabricate the story wholesale or lie about his own life. He got something trivial wrong. No one who would have voted for him otherwise is going to change their mind over this. It's unlikely in the extreme it'll even be remembered three weeks from now, let alone five months from now.

Both McCain and Obama are going to end up saying false things between now and then. When your every word is recorded and analyzed, that's going to happen. The things that will hurt are the clear fabrications for political gain, not the lazy mistakes.