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#77 May 13 2008 at 6:29 AM Rating: Excellent
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There's a reason they still print the Old Testament right before them.


Yes, so Christians can lend their Bible to Jewish people.

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#78 May 13 2008 at 6:36 AM Rating: Decent
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We can send kids on field trips to the local Islamic Center or Jewish Center (and use symbols of each for festival decorations), but not a christian church of any kind. We can send them to learn any sort of alternative viewpoint, but can't send them to talk to a local priest about his beliefs. Nope. Cause that's some sort of violation of "separation of church and state"...


I grew up in Minnesota, arguably the most Liberal state in the union, and I never went to go see any Jewish or Islam centers. I feel cheated Smiley: frown.
#79 May 13 2008 at 6:49 AM Rating: Excellent
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Since Gbaji's incapable, let me make the argument fro him here. The majority of the tax dollars used to fund public schools are drawn from Christians. If the determining factor was the will of those who were the source of the tax dollars, we'd have school prayer in much of the country, not to mention Bible study.
Ya know what they oughtta do? Vote some Christians into office for once. That'd take care of it.
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#80 May 13 2008 at 6:55 AM Rating: Decent
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Ya know what they oughtta do? Vote some Christians into office for once. That'd take care of it.


It wouldn't though. They'd need to pass an Amendment given the current prohibitions on church and state overlap. The best they can do is win school board seats and desperately try to get a sticker put on text books. A sticker, Joph, that's what big government has relegated these people of faith to with their censorship of any competing opinions of political correctness. A tiny sticker.



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#81 May 13 2008 at 7:00 AM Rating: Excellent
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They'd need to pass an Amendment given the current prohibitions on church and state overlap.
Yeah, but what if almost all the people in Congress were Christians? Huh? Huh? Then they could pass all sorts of Amendments!

It is to dream...
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#82 May 13 2008 at 7:02 AM Rating: Excellent
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Yeah, but what if almost all the people in Congress were Christians?


We both know the Five Jew Bankers will never allow that to happen. Silly.

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#83 May 13 2008 at 10:58 AM Rating: Decent
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Do you honestly think that's accurate?


It's not even accurate for the San Diego area. They've opened dozens of schools, and that's just counting the dirty Cath oh Licks. Here's one they opened in 2005.

http://www.cathedralcatholic.org/index.php?p=about



*cough*

That's a renamed school. That used to be "Uni" (across the street from USD). Um... And before you link the second "new" one, Mater Dei used to be Marian. They just changed names and moved locations. There are still 5 Catholic High Schools in San Diego. There were 5 20 years ago when I attended one of them. I'm pretty sure there were 5 when my brother attended one 10 years before that. In fact, all 5 have alumni dates going back to the 60s or farther.

Here's the link to all Catholic Schools in San Diego. Heh. If you click on the "new high schools", you get a "page not found" error...

I recognize most of the gradeschools from back in the day as well. There might be one or two new ones.

Want me to list off the number of public schools opened in San Diego just in the last 20 years to compare?


And yeah. I'm aware of the term "crowded out" Demea. Um... Does the terminology make what I said any less true? No... It doesn't...


Also, the Tiebout model is a silly attempt to try to argue that government funded programs can operate like a free market. Except that in a free market, the consumer can actually freely choose to buy itemA or itemB. In the Tiebout model, this only happens if we pretend that the cost for someone to move from one physical location to another is zero.

Um... Which isn't true in *any* real economy. See... Why not just allow the free market method in the first place? Then you don't have to move to make a choice. Yeah. Obvious. I know...
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#84 May 13 2008 at 11:09 AM Rating: Good
My sister Julie attended a Catholic high school (in Augusta, GA.) But that was only because she was kicked out of public school for biting the teacher.

Could the rise of alternative schools have anything to do with the lack of increases in Catholic schools? It's not just about money, or the lack thereof. It's about an actual need for the schools. If parents see a reason to send their kids to Catholic school, they'll figure out a way. My niece attends Catholic elementary school for free because my sister tithes $5,000 a year to the church o_o That's half the cost of actual tuition there, though.
#85 May 13 2008 at 11:33 AM Rating: Excellent
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Given the structure of the Catholic bureaucracy, it's much more likely for any given Catholic school to expand or remodel than for a new one to sprout up in an established neighborhood. Trying to chart private school growth by tracking the development of new Catholic schools is a poor idea from the start.

From 1991-2004, there was 8-9% growth in private school enrollments. Obviously those extra kids went somewhere.

Naperville, IL has been growing a lot since the 1990's. Enough to open All Saints Catholic Academy in 2005 with a K-6 enrollment of 400 students. Go figure.

Edited, May 13th 2008 2:34pm by Jophiel
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#86 May 13 2008 at 11:45 AM Rating: Good
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They just changed names and moved locations.


Oh, is that all? You're not, perchance, leaving out the part where the number of students doubles or anything, right?

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#87 May 13 2008 at 12:15 PM Rating: Good
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I'm still confused as to why anyone would want to send their children to a Catholic school.

Child abuse is endemic, and the Church's plan for dealing with it has been to move the perpetrators to a different area without informing the next set of victims of their past history.

I'm pretty sure that Jebus didn't condone kiddy fiddling.

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Child abuse is endemic
Smiley: dubious
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#89 May 13 2008 at 12:27 PM Rating: Excellent
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I'm pretty sure that Jebus didn't condone kiddy fiddling.


There's nothing to indicate he'd have a problem with it. On the other hand, he absolutely would have had a problem not forgiving those guilty of it.

Criticizing a church that's foundation is that God forgives for...forgiving people...requires a borderline mental illness lack of understanding.

Christ wasn't known for his casting out of undesirable elements if you read the New Testament.

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#90 May 13 2008 at 12:31 PM Rating: Good
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adjective Also, en·dem·i·cal. 1. natural to or characteristic of a specific people or place; native; indigenous:


Malaria is 'endemic' to many places in Africa (for example). It doesn't mean everyone in Africa has malaria.
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#91 May 13 2008 at 12:35 PM Rating: Decent
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Malaria is 'endemic' to many places in Africa (for example). It doesn't mean everyone in Africa has malaria.


I'm going to go out on a CRAZY limb here and assume that Joph wasn't confused as to what the word meant, but was confused that you'd be rock ******* stupid enough to think that the per capita child abuse in the Catholic Church is somehow higher than that of Schooteachers or Prodestand Pastors, or Mail Carriers, etc. Because ten or fifteen seconds of research would help you realize that given the number of children who come into contact with Church clergy and the number of years involved, your kid is as safe there as they are anywhere else.

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#92 May 13 2008 at 12:42 PM Rating: Excellent
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...though I'd have said it nicer Smiley: laugh
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#93 May 13 2008 at 12:44 PM Rating: Excellent
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...though I'd have said it nicer Smiley: laugh


You don't have a toothache!

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#94 May 13 2008 at 12:46 PM Rating: Decent
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You don't have a toothache!


No kidding. I'd trade all of your kids being felt up by Father Humpsalot if I could pull this thing out with a pair of pliers without passing out.

Where's my god damn Demoral.

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#95 May 13 2008 at 12:48 PM Rating: Good
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Thanx for that!

I'm not sure the Mail Carriers are the ones who have set themselves the task of educating the world about the moral standards we should adhere to, and I'm also assuming that if a postie was caught with his fingers in a box other than the mail receptacle nailed to a post in your front yard, he would'nt just be moved to a different route and no more said about it.
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#96 May 13 2008 at 12:53 PM Rating: Good
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Where's my god damn Demoral.


Biting on a clove helps.....
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#97 May 13 2008 at 12:55 PM Rating: Excellent
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I'm not sure the Mail Carriers are the ones who have set themselves the task of educating the world about the moral standards we should adhere to
What the hell does that have to do with the per capita rate of molestation among Catholic students?
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and I'm also assuming that if a postie was caught with his fingers in a box other than the mail receptacle nailed to a post in your front yard, he would'nt just be moved to a different route and no more said about it.
Good point. No one has ever quietly pushed stuff aside before.

For a while there, it seemed as though we had the monthly "Female teacher fucking her students" story in the news. Strangely, I never took it as an indication of significant risk that any given student was spending time balls deep in his instructor.

Edited, May 13th 2008 3:55pm by Jophiel
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#98 May 13 2008 at 12:58 PM Rating: Good
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I'm not sure the Mail Carriers are the ones who have set themselves the task of educating the world about the moral standards we should adhere to, and I'm also assuming that if a postie was caught with his fingers in a box other than the mail receptacle nailed to a post in your front yard, he would'nt just be moved to a different route and no more said about it.


Based on what? Spent a lot of time working in government, have you? Because the idea that someone would just be transferred to be someone else's problem is just LUDICROUS when applied to entrenched bureaucracy. It's widely known that **** ups in government service are immediately excised like a tumor, never to return. Never, ever, are they just shuffled around to a new area where they are less known.

What's your issue with the Catholic Church here, really? That you're an easily manipulated sucker who fell for the news hype? Really? The number of public school teachers in similar circumstances who just picked up and moved to diffrent schools in the timeframe most of the Church abuse claims stem from is in the thousands. The social standards for kid ******* have changed. It was viewed far too leniently decades ago by EVERYONE, and now we've come full circle to ludicrous moral panic blood libel "it's worse tham murder!!!111!one!." Only complete idiots decide that the current attitude is the correct one that "good people" would have had at any point in time when confronted with it. The Church treated people accused pretty much the same way everyone else did. People convicted of child sexual abuse rarely, if ever, received serious jail time and just moved to new areas.

Your abject moral self righteousness here is absurd and off base. What matters is what the Church does NOW. If they uncover ongoing abuse tomorrow, you'll have a point. At the moment, you're just proving your an easily maliable panicy lump of clay that will swallow anything your told in the right tone blindly. Congratulations.
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#99 May 13 2008 at 1:05 PM Rating: Good
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Ok.

I'll rephrase.

I struggle to understand why anyone would send their kids into the care of a bloke in a dress who believes theres an old man in the sky who is looking down on us with a benign smile, and loves us all.

Try the clove ...really, it will help.

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#100 May 13 2008 at 1:10 PM Rating: Good
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And yeah. I'm aware of the term "crowded out" Demea. Um... Does the terminology make what I said any less true? No... It doesn't...


Also, the Tiebout model is a silly attempt to try to argue that government funded programs can operate like a free market. Except that in a free market, the consumer can actually freely choose to buy itemA or itemB. In the Tiebout model, this only happens if we pretend that the cost for someone to move from one physical location to another is zero.

Um... Which isn't true in *any* real economy. See... Why not just allow the free market method in the first place? Then you don't have to move to make a choice. Yeah. Obvious. I know...

Like Nostradamus himself, Smash wrote:
You realize there's .000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% chance he's going to understand this conceptually and 0% chance that he's going to understand the math in the random whackjob paper he links that "refutes" it, right?

/sigh

Nail on the head, Smash.
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I struggle to understand why anyone would send their kids into the care of a bloke in a dress who believes theres an old man in the sky who is looking down on us with a benign smile, and loves us all.


I think it's more that the options are send your kid to a ****** public school where they'll learn Algebra in grade 12, or tolerate them being sold some invisible man in the sky stories while they learn Latin, Calculus, and Physics.

Not everyone who sends their kid to Catholic schools is Catholic, or even Christian. Most Catholic schools, around here anyway, take students of many faiths, occasionally offering differing tuition rates for students who are members of a parish and those who aren't.



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