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#1 Apr 24 2008 at 3:36 AM Rating: Good
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A mechanic on the set of the latest Bond Movie is lucky to be alive. Fraser Dunn (29) was transporting the one and only Aston Martin stunt car (134,000 pounds) belonging to the movie, when it skidded on ice on an Italian road, and plunged into the lake below. He was knocked unconscious on impact, and woke up on the lake bed, which he later learned was 150 ft deep at that point. He managed to kick free of the wreckage, and with lungs wanting to explode, swum up to the lake surface. He's now recuperating in hospital with a few bruises, and still painful lungs. Fraser Dunn is happy and grateful to be alive, but highly embarrassed about the accident, from the sounds of it. It's the first time he's "bent" an AM in his 5 years with the company.


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#2 Apr 24 2008 at 4:46 AM Rating: Decent
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I figured they'd transport cars like this on flatbeds to the location for shoots...
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#3 Apr 24 2008 at 4:48 AM Rating: Good
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I bet the producers are spewing that there weren't cameras set up.
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No puns about the driver being "Shaken, not stirred"? Smiley: disappointed
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#5 Apr 24 2008 at 5:38 AM Rating: Excellent
A non-amphibious Aston Martin? What kind of James Bond is that...
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Nobby wrote:
No puns about the driver being "Shaken, not stirred"? Smiley: disappointed
It was used in at least one of the articles I read.

The photos and my paraphrasing are out of a British newspaper website. I was going to "Linky" it, but as I said in my PS, the URL link didn't work in the post, and I suspect that's because the URL was about 2 metres long.

The smaller, original article I read the news from I didn't bother linking because it was, well, small. And boring.
#7 Apr 24 2008 at 7:16 AM Rating: Good
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There are a number of questions being raised in British motoring journals about this.
Top Gear wrote:

I apologise to the driver if I'm inventing a conspiracy theory that is founded on absolutely nothing, but I just can't help myself because there are a few things that strike me as odd about the reported story.

First, when Top Gear gets press cars delivered from Aston, they arrive on a trailer. Would they not do the same for what was reportedly the only car available for the movie?

Second, the car also looks so utterly crushed that I can't imagine anyone would have survived such a horrific accident, let alone then swam a mammoth 150 feet to the surface afterwards.

And then you have to remember how good that the people behind Bond are at playing their game. They know what they're doing when it comes to marketing a film. They also know how good a cool car is at achieving that.

In the build-up to the release of Casino Royale they issued pictures and video footage of the world-record achieving Most Barrel Rolls by a Car Ever - also an Aston Martin DBS - that scored them huge amounts of press coverage as a result.

Online campaigns are all about blurring the lines between the movie that's being released and real life, so how much coverage would they get for a 'real' crash? One that in reality turned out to be a fantastically huge stunt from the film.

Judging by yesterday's news coverage, a lot.
Does seem a bit fishy.

They also say it's the only Aston they have, yet it's been widely reported that AM supplied them with 5.

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#8 Apr 24 2008 at 7:24 AM Rating: Excellent
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Yeah. I know a little about water pressure from diving, and if a person were unconscious in 150 feet (five atmospheres of pressure, roughly), water would be forced into his lungs very quickly. Further, if he held his breath all the way up and ascended that quickly he'd be very, very likely to have a pulmonary embolism.

Be interesting to see how the story develops, but it almost sounds like a publicity stunt.
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Does seem a bit fishy.


That a trained mechanic drove an exceptionally well handling machine off of a picturesque cliff into a lake?

Yeah a bit. You can't find postcards that look that good.

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Well if you've just trashed a $1/4M car in a stunt, why not get a 2nd bite of the cherry for publicity?
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#11 Apr 24 2008 at 8:10 AM Rating: Excellent
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Huh, a second accident. What are they feeding these stunt drivers?

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What are they feeding these stunt drivers?


I don't know, but someone at BMW is laughing, I'd bet.

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"They chose this road because it is full of curves and tunnels. It will give the film a lot of impact," Girardi said.
Unfortunate choice of words there Signor Girardi. Smiley: lol

It doesn't mention the nationality of the stunt driver, but as we say over here:

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Driven by Italians Smiley: oyvey
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#14 Apr 25 2008 at 11:43 AM Rating: Good
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He wrecked, sank down to the bottom of a lake 150 feet down, got loose from the car and swam up to the surface-- all on a single lungful of air? I call bullsh1t. That sounds suspiciously like the plotline of a Hollywood James Bond script.

As a scuba diver myself, I'm here to tell you it didn't happen.

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Totem wrote:
He wrecked, sank down to the bottom of a lake 150 feet down, got loose from the car and swam up to the surface-- all on a single lungful of air? I call bullsh1t. That sounds suspiciously like the plotline of a Hollywood James Bond script.

As a scuba diver myself, I'm here to tell you it didn't happen.

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'Swhat I said!

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Smiley: oyvey Sammy and ToUtem's cynicism just goes to show they've never watched any of those documentaries. . . you know. . .Casino Royale, Die another Day, Goldfinger etc.


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Aripyanfar wrote:
He managed to kick free of the wreckage, and with lungs wanting to explode, swum up to the lake surface.



He's quite lucky his lungs didn't explode. That last breath he took in the car before leaving was pressurized by the depth of the water. When coming up from such depths, you must exhale all the way up to avoid potentially lethal lung damage.
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Deathwysh wrote:
Aripyanfar wrote:
He managed to kick free of the wreckage, and with lungs wanting to explode, swum up to the lake surface.



He's quite lucky his lungs didn't explode. That last breath he took in the car before leaving was pressurized by the depth of the water. When coming up from such depths, you must exhale all the way up to avoid potentially lethal lung damage.


Would anyone else like to rephrase my post?

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Would anyone else like to rephrase my post?


Your asking someone to paraphrase what you posted as if it was an original thought? Unlikely.

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This reminds me of the Harry Enfield sketches where the gentlemen are sharing cigars after dinner and talking ***** while the li'l lady who concisely summarises and makes sense of their ramblings, and is studiously ignored.

All is as it should be Smiley: cool
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Nobby wrote:
This reminds me of the Harry Enfield sketches where the gentlemen are sharing cigars after dinner and talking ***** while the li'l lady who concisely summarises and makes sense of their ramblings, and is studiously ignored.

All is as it should be Smiley: cool


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#22 Apr 25 2008 at 12:56 PM Rating: Good
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Well, he wouldn't have had to exhale if the lungful of air was what he originally had in his chest at the surface. It's only when you take in compressed air that it would expand to cause an embolysm. The air in his lungs would only expand back to it's former volume at the surface. Assuming he didn't breath in a lungful of air trapped under the roof of the car or in a window-- which based on compression ratios wouldn't take up that much space --he wouldn't have enough to live off of during the descent, getting free of the car, and swimming up to the surface, even if he knew which way was up in total darkness. Yes, it is very dark at 150 feet.

My open water dive only took us down to a little past 100 feet because oxygen becomes toxic not much farther down than that and because even on a full tank you have maybe 30-45 seconds of usable air at that depth. The bends are another issue, but I seem to recall from my depth charts you need to be down past 120 feet for about 5-6 minutes before you need to decompress.

At any rate, if you include the time it would take a car to sink 150 feet all the while fighting drag, releasing trapped (and obviously bouyant) air, and the driver holding his breath in an unconscious state, it makes for a tall tale indeed.

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This story has about as much validity as that Mission Impossible film where Tom Cruise flies a helicopter into a tunnel and jumps through the windshield to land on the train.

Nearly any movie with helicopters in it just about kills me. However, when I go on PR flights, it does allow me to tell some whoppers of my own. "Why, yes, I certainly can fly upsidedown to mow my front yard!" Or "Pffft, of course I have an ejection seat! It's timed to blast me through the rotors at just the right moment!"

/rollseyes

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