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#27 Apr 21 2008 at 9:28 AM Rating: Excellent
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Because it's true, and ultimately it will be for those reasons.


No.

It's clearly not true because otherwise mankind would've stopped doing anything around the Middle-ages. And when succeeding generations do end up having to do less to survive or prosper, its because technology and propserity allows them to.

Second, China will overtake the US, and everyone, else for lots of reasons, the least of which is political correctness and kids not getting hurt at sports. y far. Conversly, the reason the US is the world's superpower is not because they worked harder than other people, or played more contact sports. Come on...
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#28 Apr 21 2008 at 10:03 AM Rating: Default
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Second, China will overtake the US, and everyone, else for lots of reasons, the least of which is political correctness and kids not getting hurt at sports. y far. Conversly, the reason the US is the world's superpower is not because they worked harder than other people, or played more contact sports. Come on...


Except that that's not what I said. Political correctness is a relatively recent phenomenon that is now at a scale that is actually detrimental to progress.

The US is a superpower because they have a free economy that allowed the best and brightest to shine and is a relatively new society and therefore was not restricted by an outdated social and economic infrastructure. This however is changing, as the US (and all western societies for that matter) continue to add restrictions that limit its own advancement. The bigger the law books get (usually to protect the less fortunate), the slower the US will advance. Western society is becoming weaker because we severely limit the strong to provide slight protections to the weak.

As an example, and not necessarily a good one, just the hot button topic of late, the US is limiting stem cell research because it's politically incorrect to experiment on baby people cells. Other countries that aren't so politically correct don't have such qualms, and those countries will progress much more rapidly than the US will. When China extends life expectancy by 50 years, because they're not so morally motivated, they'll take over the world's drug trade.

Personally I prefer to live in a politically correct society as long as it isn't taken too far. The problem is it's being taken too far, and that makes it unsustainable. At some point being politically correct starts to infringe on peoples freedoms and stifles advancement.
#29 Apr 21 2008 at 10:25 AM Rating: Excellent
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Yodabunny wrote:
Political correctness is a relatively recent phenomenon
Is it pump! Smiley: rolleyes

You know that half of Shakespeare's jokes are only funny if you realise how politically incorrect they were in their day.

And the same applies to Geoff Chaucer in the 1380s.

And don't start me on Pliny, Cicero, Homer. . . .

I agree with Red. Every generation develops convenient amnesia about their own youth when denigrating today's political correctness, vandalism, slovenly use of language, and the claim to have discovered sex.

Silly Yodabunny.
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#30 Apr 21 2008 at 10:54 AM Rating: Good
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The US is a superpower because they have a free economy that allowed the best and brightest to shine and is a relatively new society and therefore was not restricted by an outdated social and economic infrastructure.


That's only partially true, and it certainly doesn't account for the rise of the US as sole superpower on its own. You need to add lots of other things like slavery, international trade, the conquest of half Mexico (where the oil was), the effects of WWI and WWII on the precedent superpowers, the Marshall Plan... And that's only the US got there, not how it stayed there for the next 50 years. Obviously democracy, free markets, and a healthy and protestant population helps.

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The bigger the law books get (usually to protect the less fortunate), the slower the US will advance.


So now the size of law books determine the rate of progress or prosperity? How big is Yemen's law book? Somalia? Come on...

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Western society is becoming weaker because we severely limit the strong to provide slight protections to the weak.

As an example, and not necessarily a good one, just the hot button topic of late, the US is limiting stem cell research because it's politically incorrect to experiment on baby people cells.


This has nothing to do with political correctness, and everything to do with the influence of religion on politics and science.

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When China extends life expectancy by 50 years, because they're not so morally motivated, they'll take over the world's drug trade.


No, they'll have a gigantic pension crisis on their hands. Life expectancy has nothing to do with control of the pharmaceutical industry.

The US is not in decline, but other countries are on the rise. It has nothing to do with political correctness, unless you define so broadly as to means "anything you don't agree with".

1 in 5 person on this planet is Chinese. That's one serious reason why they'll overtake the US. There are others.
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#31 Apr 21 2008 at 12:05 PM Rating: Decent
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That's only partially true, and it certainly doesn't account for the rise of the US as sole superpower on its own. You need to add lots of other things like slavery, international trade, the conquest of half Mexico (where the oil was), the effects of WWI and WWII on the precedent superpowers, the Marshall Plan... And that's only the US got there, not how it stayed there for the next 50 years. Obviously democracy, free markets, and a healthy and protestant population helps.


I agree that there are other factors, I'm not THAT naive.

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So now the size of law books determine the rate of progress or prosperity? How big is Yemen's law book? Somalia? Come on...


Not entirely, but it does have a significant stifling effect.

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This has nothing to do with political correctness, and everything to do with the influence of religion on politics and science.


Most religion is like an instruction manual for how to be politically correct, there are of course exceptions.

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No, they'll have a gigantic pension crisis on their hands. Life expectancy has nothing to do with control of the pharmaceutical industry.


Making the drug that gives that life expectancy does.

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The US is not in decline, but other countries are on the rise. It has nothing to do with political correctness, unless you define so broadly as to means "anything you don't agree with".


The US is not on a decline, but progress has slowed to the point that other countries are advancing at a faster rate. Political correctness to me is doing things strictly to avoid offending as many people as possible instead of because it makes sense.

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1 in 5 person on this planet is Chinese. That's one serious reason why they'll overtake the US. There are others.


Agreed.
#32 Apr 21 2008 at 12:22 PM Rating: Good
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What social ills will be bettered by common sense, decency and compassion?


Eating animals when there is an alternative.

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what major excluded group will be integrated into society?


Hemp farmers.
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#33 Apr 21 2008 at 1:02 PM Rating: Decent
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What social ills will be bettered by common sense, decency and compassion?


Eating animals when there is an alternative.

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what major excluded group will be integrated into society?


Hemp farmers.


Damn hippies.
#34 Apr 21 2008 at 2:04 PM Rating: Good
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Most religion is like an instruction manual for how to be politically correct, there are of course exceptions.


Ah, come on, that's a load of non-sense. Religion is PC now? So the world has been PC for last 2 millenia? Discriminating against gays is PC? Calling people who don't follow the same religion "heretics" and saying they'll spend the rest of eternity suffering for their sins is PC?

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Making the drug that gives that life expectancy does.


Sure, but nothing to do with PC. There hasn't been a single technological or medicak break-through that was stopped because its wouldn't have been PC.

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Political correctness to me is doing things strictly to avoid offending as many people as possible instead of because it makes sense.


"Making sense" is completely subjective.

PC, at its core, is purely about language and communication. It's about learning to live in a diverse and varied world, where words can have an impact all over the globe instantly.
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#35 Apr 21 2008 at 2:15 PM Rating: Good
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RedPhoenixxx wrote:

PC, at its core, is purely about language and communication.
The de'il damn thee black, thou cream faced loon.
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#36 Apr 21 2008 at 2:21 PM Rating: Good
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The de'il damn thee black, thou cream faced loon.


Les Britanniques ont des orientations sexuelles variees et non-exclusivement heterosexuelles, monsieur.
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#37 Apr 22 2008 at 9:26 AM Rating: Good
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Les Britanniques ont des orientations sexuelles variees et non-exclusivement heterosexuelles, monsieur.
Nique les Francais; nation de connards
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#38 Apr 22 2008 at 12:16 PM Rating: Decent
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In 50 years, just a few guesses.

Legalized marijuana, possibly prostitution (more widespread).
Flourish of acceptance of sexuality.
Government health care, possibly college education and/or internet access.
Better treatment of criminals; more efforts to reform them or at least make them socially functional within confinement.
#39 Apr 24 2008 at 10:53 AM Rating: Default
In 50 years basic cable will be showing free ****, phones will be used to order goods only and **** Clark will still be alive...
#40 Apr 24 2008 at 11:00 AM Rating: Excellent
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in 50 years we might consider Scottlandia and Canukistan to be a relevent part of civilization. But only if they are really nice and buy us a pony.
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#41 Apr 24 2008 at 11:05 AM Rating: Good
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n 50 years, just a few guesses.

Legalized marijuana, possibly prostitution (more widespread).
Flourish of acceptance of sexuality.
Government health care, possibly college education and/or internet access.
Better treatment of criminals; more efforts to reform them or at least make them socially functional within confinement.


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#42 Apr 25 2008 at 3:29 AM Rating: Good
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In 50 years I predict that IT guys will be viewed in a light shared with plumbers and mechanics.
We don't call plumbers "pipe geniuses" and expect them to be polite and clean cut..
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#43 Apr 25 2008 at 5:48 AM Rating: Decent
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In the next 50 years:

A bird flu mutation will wipe out 75% of the world population followed by a major solar storm that will cripple our telecommunications and melt the polar ice caps. The result will be huge storms and flooding of 68% of the land surface that will kill 3/5 of the remaining population. The 10% left that survive will create a utopian society with the help of aliens where everyone is flawless and accepted completely.

Things look bright for the future of humanity!
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