It sounds like Barry Hussein got his a$$ handed to him last night by both the mods and the Hellbeast.
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/04/16/905215.aspx
The Golden Boy is showing hints of tarnish under that 14K gold filled exterior.
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And Slate is saying Barry lost. http://www.slate.com/id/2189273/ Perhaps the silver tongued orator needs a bit of http://www.silverqueen.com/Order/OrderItem.asp?ODR=CatShow&Part=12479503&BackLink=SUPPLIES%2Fsupplies%2Easp to get him back on his game?
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Totem wrote:
It sounds like Barry Hussein got his a$$ handed to him last night by both the mods and the Hellbeast.
Again, all second-hand accounts. I missed the debate and didn't personally watch GMA.
It's not all bad news. DC superdelegate Harry Thomas Jr is pulling his support for Clinton this morning and backing Obama. Four other superedelegates publically announced for him yesterday.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Moreover, Obama is semi-refuting affirmative action!
/gasp!
Whatever will Smasharoo say in response to that??? His hero took a step towards disavowing preferences and acknowledged that disenfranchised whites be given the same treatment as minorities!
/double gasp!
Heresy! Heresy! Burn that man at the stake!
How the subject came up:
SENATOR OBAMA: And race is still a factor in our society. And I think that for universities and other institutions to say, you know, we're going to take into account the hardships that somebody has experienced because they're black or Latino or because they're women --
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: Even if they're wealthy?
SENATOR OBAMA: I think that's something that they can take into account, but it can only be in the context of looking at the whole situation of the young person. So if they look at my child and they say, you know, Malia and Sasha, they've had a pretty good deal, then that shouldn't be factored in. On the other hand, if there's a young white person who has been working hard, struggling, and has overcome great odds, that's something that should be taken into account.
So I still believe in affirmative action as a means of overcoming both historic and potentially current discrimination, but I think that it can't be a quota system and it can't be something that is simply applied without looking at the whole person, whether that person is black or white or Hispanic, male or female.
What we want to do is make sure that people who have been locked out of opportunity are going to be able to walk through those doors of opportunity in the future.
What was that thud I just heard? Was that Smasharoo fainting and hitting the floor?
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Edited, Apr 17th 2008 11:58am by Totem
Edited, Apr 17th 2008 11:59am by Totem
/gasp!
Whatever will Smasharoo say in response to that??? His hero took a step towards disavowing preferences and acknowledged that disenfranchised whites be given the same treatment as minorities!
/double gasp!
Heresy! Heresy! Burn that man at the stake!
How the subject came up:
SENATOR OBAMA: And race is still a factor in our society. And I think that for universities and other institutions to say, you know, we're going to take into account the hardships that somebody has experienced because they're black or Latino or because they're women --
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: Even if they're wealthy?
SENATOR OBAMA: I think that's something that they can take into account, but it can only be in the context of looking at the whole situation of the young person. So if they look at my child and they say, you know, Malia and Sasha, they've had a pretty good deal, then that shouldn't be factored in. On the other hand, if there's a young white person who has been working hard, struggling, and has overcome great odds, that's something that should be taken into account.
So I still believe in affirmative action as a means of overcoming both historic and potentially current discrimination, but I think that it can't be a quota system and it can't be something that is simply applied without looking at the whole person, whether that person is black or white or Hispanic, male or female.
What we want to do is make sure that people who have been locked out of opportunity are going to be able to walk through those doors of opportunity in the future.
What was that thud I just heard? Was that Smasharoo fainting and hitting the floor?
Totem
Edited, Apr 17th 2008 11:58am by Totem
Edited, Apr 17th 2008 11:59am by Totem
And here's an interesting read on Barry's "bitter" comments:
http://hughhewitt.townhall.com/blog/g/476297ad-3801-43d7-a670-bb68b3f58741
It's the contention of the author that Obama wasn't just refering to small townies in Pennsylvania-- as much as his apologists are trying to spin it that way --but that this is an entire world view of a man who has no real connection with a large segment of American society who lives as these supposedly bitter voters do. Hewitt, the blog's author, makes the claim that Obama's upbringing and recent past leave him unable to see this part of America as they truly are-- thriving, prosperous, and happy. On the contrary, Obama sees the world much like Jimmy Carter did in the '70's where he infamously described us as a malaised society.
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http://hughhewitt.townhall.com/blog/g/476297ad-3801-43d7-a670-bb68b3f58741
It's the contention of the author that Obama wasn't just refering to small townies in Pennsylvania-- as much as his apologists are trying to spin it that way --but that this is an entire world view of a man who has no real connection with a large segment of American society who lives as these supposedly bitter voters do. Hewitt, the blog's author, makes the claim that Obama's upbringing and recent past leave him unable to see this part of America as they truly are-- thriving, prosperous, and happy. On the contrary, Obama sees the world much like Jimmy Carter did in the '70's where he infamously described us as a malaised society.
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So he lost Hugh Hewitt's vote? 
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Lol, apparently. All the same, he has some interesting thoughts on the subject, even if you don't agree with him.
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The debate last night was a farce. Neither Obama or Clinton did very well, due to the fact that the moderators were gibbering idiots that kept treating what could have been the most historic debate of the 21st century as a talk show, or yellow newspaper, or something. Where was the policy? Where were the issues? Instead, they gave us a rehash of the last few months of "Oh no they didn't" - Rev. Wright, NAFTA gate, etc.
ABC should be ashamed of themselves.
ABC should be ashamed of themselves.
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Posted: Apr 17 2008 at 8:26 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) You people actually watched the debate...that's funny.
ohthepoor wrote:
You people actually watched the debate.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
I dunno, Varrus. If I don't watch and see what all the Obamaniacs are getting all excited about, how can I reasonably expect to throw cold water on their false hope, audacious as it may be? Someone needs to keep their optimism in check.
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ohthepoor wrote:
Should I apologize for not reading your post?
Thanks!
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Even {i]The Onion[/i] is getting into the act...
http://www.theonion.com/content/amvo/obama_dogged_by_bitter_remarks?utm_source=slate_rss_1
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http://www.theonion.com/content/amvo/obama_dogged_by_bitter_remarks?utm_source=slate_rss_1
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Obama is simply trying to tie down the Al Gore endorsement
I know I've linked it before but it's probably my single favorite Onion article
I know I've linked it before but it's probably my single favorite Onion article
Al Gore wrote:
"Every second I spend in this dark and evil state is sheer agony," he said. "A second feels like a week in the presence of you monstrous non-people. I would have left Pennsylvania long ago, but I wanted every last one of you grubby, ***-faced animals to realize exactly where you stand in the food chain. You are not a part of that chain. You exist outside of the human community, and when I am in the White House, I will make sure that the whole nation–indeed, the world–understands that fact with no ambiguity. I will not represent you. I will not defend you. I will allow and even invite any nation to invade and destroy this horrible graveyard of the soul. To hell with all of you, and good riddance."
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Quote:
I wonder how difficult it would be for you guys to say one truly nice thing about Republicans. You know, without saying some kind of bs afterwards, laughing afterwards, without sarcasm, without going into a ********* about something you feel is wrong with the Republicans.
I'll give it a go.
Republicans are people. On average they're probably as well-meaning as Democrats, even if ignorant overall, and I don't even mean ignorant in an insulting way. Everyone is ignorant of some things. I just think most Republicans are ignorant of good policy.
It's not like I don't have conservative, republican family members who I love, even though I completely disagree with them on many issues. They don't hold back on me when it comes to political discussions and I do them the same courtesy.
I usually win, by the way, but sometimes I throw a debate or feign ignorance so they can feel like they haven't been intellectually decimated.
Well, the debates couldn't have hurt Obama too much. Rasmussen now shows Clinton only up by three points as of the 17th (first Penn. poll I've seen taken the day after the debates) versus 9 points back on the 14th.
I have a feeling she'll outperform the polls but, if the polls are within points for Clinton & Obama, outperforming them won't accomplish much unless it's drastic.
I have a feeling she'll outperform the polls but, if the polls are within points for Clinton & Obama, outperforming them won't accomplish much unless it's drastic.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Personally I'm not as much on higher taxes (except from the wealthy) as much as I am for redistribution of tax expenditures. There needs to be a tighter scope for the federal budget. Also, rich people need to stop dodging taxes and depriving us of billions of federal tax dollars.
More management is good for a business... when the management is good. Right now it's a question of more bad management or less bad management. Well, I want more management, and I want it to be good. That may not happen with a democratic federal government but it definitely won't happen with a republican one.
Oh ****, why am I talking to you? Well I guess I was mostly talking at you; not much or a response to what you said. What you said was mostly ******** anyway.
More management is good for a business... when the management is good. Right now it's a question of more bad management or less bad management. Well, I want more management, and I want it to be good. That may not happen with a democratic federal government but it definitely won't happen with a republican one.
Oh ****, why am I talking to you? Well I guess I was mostly talking at you; not much or a response to what you said. What you said was mostly ******** anyway.
Ouch.
Newsweek is raising the spectre of Barry Hussein being the 2008 John Kerry. Between his connection with a former 60's terror organization, the Weathermen, and his refusal to wear an American flag lapel pin, he is slowly, but inexorably being characterized as unconnected to the American mainstream voting populace. Looks like it's a tough time to be a black man in politics these days. The Man is raising his heavy of hand of oppression-- again --to keep the black man down.
http://www.newsweek.com/id/132566
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Newsweek is raising the spectre of Barry Hussein being the 2008 John Kerry. Between his connection with a former 60's terror organization, the Weathermen, and his refusal to wear an American flag lapel pin, he is slowly, but inexorably being characterized as unconnected to the American mainstream voting populace. Looks like it's a tough time to be a black man in politics these days. The Man is raising his heavy of hand of oppression-- again --to keep the black man down.
http://www.newsweek.com/id/132566
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Totem wrote:
Ouch.
Newsweek is raising the spectre of Barry Hussein being the 2008 John Kerry.
Newsweek is raising the spectre of Barry Hussein being the 2008 John Kerry.
Which is a valid point and not a new one. Hopefully things will tie up in the next couple of weeks and Obama can concentrate on what matters.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
But he ISN'T John Kerry.
So at least we have that.
So at least we have that.
"The Rich are there to take all of the money & pay none of the taxes, the middle class is there to do all the work and pay all the taxes, and the poor are there to scare the crap out of the middle class." -George Carlin
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Kind of like labeling most republicans ignorant?
No, I'm petitioning Webster's to have that added to the definition of "republican."
All people are ignorant. All. Republicans are ignorant of priority and good policy, not by happenstance. You obviously think the same about Democrats at the very least (or at worst, you think they're terrible, bad people.) Well they are ignorant, just less so on average from my observation.
The lapel pin issue is ******* stupid. In North Korea, adults are expected to wear a pin with Kim Il Sung on it over their heart, every day, until they die. And if they don't, they're considered to be traitors to the glorious state.
The point is that in America, we're a free country, and we don't need that kind of ****. You don't need a ******* flag pin to "prove" you're patriotic. Obama's refusal to wear it is to symbolize that one man's freedom of choice represents America far more than a tacky Made In China enameled pin.
The point is that in America, we're a free country, and we don't need that kind of ****. You don't need a ******* flag pin to "prove" you're patriotic. Obama's refusal to wear it is to symbolize that one man's freedom of choice represents America far more than a tacky Made In China enameled pin.
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