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#102 Apr 09 2008 at 2:18 PM Rating: Decent
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You're not hearing me. He inherited massive wealth and either hired people to manage it for him (since his inheritance allows him to do that), or inherited those relationships as well.

He's not picking stocks, researching companies, working it. He has people to do that for him.

Because he was born filthy rich, and there's a telling phrase for you.


Without a doubt. But money earned on money he invested that he gained through inhertiance is not considered inherited money. Would he be rich if he didn't inherit the money. Of course not. It goes back to the old saying "It takes money to make money". The point Smash is arguing with me is that inherited money is on the decline as far as percentage of the top income bracket goes.

The point was made that it was easier for them to make money because they inherited it, and I don't argue with that.
#103 Apr 09 2008 at 2:21 PM Rating: Decent
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The point Smash is arguing with me is that inherited money is on the decline as far as percentage of the top income bracket goes.


No.

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#104 Apr 09 2008 at 2:25 PM Rating: Decent
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As of now that is true, but the trend is showing that fewer and fewer "rich" people are getting it from inheritance.

False.


Um Smash, isn't that agruing what I said?
#105 Apr 09 2008 at 2:27 PM Rating: Decent
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Um Smash, isn't that agruing what I said?


No, it's not. See if you can't discern the diffrence between "fewer rich people are getting money from inheritance" and "the total percentage of wealth among the rich that is from inheritance is declining"

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#106 Apr 09 2008 at 2:29 PM Rating: Good
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"fewer rich people are getting money from inheritance" and "the total percentage of wealth among the rich that is from inheritance is declining"


Which one of those two points are you agruing?
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#108 Apr 09 2008 at 2:34 PM Rating: Good
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Which one of those two points are you agruing?


I'm arguing exactly this:

There is a threshold inheritance range which virtually guarantees wealth. The further one is from that range at birth, the less likely one will be wealthy as an adult. The closer one is to that range, the more likely one will be wealthy as an adult.

The odds of ending life with a net worth of over 10 million 2008 US Dollars when starting with zero inheritance are virtually zero.

The odds of ending life with a net worth of over 10 million 2008 US Dollars when starting with an inheritance of 1 million 2008 US dollars are about 50/50

NO OTHER FACTOR, be it intelligence, work ethic, race, gender, ethnicity, etc. even vaguely approaches the importance of starting inheritance in determining financial success in the US.

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#110 Apr 09 2008 at 2:37 PM Rating: Good
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All I learned is that I am poor.


That's not all I learned. I learned that I am poor, and not likely to die with 10 million dollars. Smiley: frown
#111 Apr 09 2008 at 2:38 PM Rating: Good
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I'm arguing exactly this:

There is a threshold inheritance range which virtually guarantees wealth. The further one is from that range at birth, the less likely one will be wealthy as an adult. The closer one is to that range, the more likely one will be wealthy as an adult.

The odds of ending life with a net worth of over 10 million 2008 US Dollars when starting with zero inheritance are virtually zero.

The odds of ending life with a net worth of over 10 million 2008 US Dollars when starting with an inheritance of 1 million 2008 US dollars are about 50/50

NO OTHER FACTOR, be it intelligence, work ethic, race, gender, ethnicity, etc. even vaguely approaches the importance of starting inheritance in determining financial success in the US.


I never tried to refute any of those points.
#112 Apr 09 2008 at 2:41 PM Rating: Decent
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I never tried to refute any of those points.


Your right, you didn't. Sorry.

I conflated you with the other subdefault poster.

No hard feelings.

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#113 Apr 09 2008 at 2:44 PM Rating: Excellent
So what exactly were we arguing about?
#114 Apr 09 2008 at 2:45 PM Rating: Decent
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Pie, and slices thereof.

Actually it all started out with "not all rich people are bad", which led to "no, but their wealth is still based on exploitation."

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#115 Apr 09 2008 at 2:46 PM Rating: Decent
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So what exactly were we arguing about?


I'm too lazy to go back and read it, I was probably arguing with someone else via you. Find someone to rate you up to the point where your name is distinguishable from the other 1000 subdefault posters.

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#116 Apr 09 2008 at 2:47 PM Rating: Decent
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Smasharoo wrote:

So what exactly were we arguing about?


I'm too lazy to go back and read it, I was probably arguing with someone else via you. Find someone to rate you up to the point where your name is distinguishable from the other 1000 subdefault posters.



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#117 Apr 09 2008 at 2:48 PM Rating: Excellent
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So what exactly were we arguing about?

I'm too lazy to go back and read it, I was probably arguing with someone else via you. Find someone to rate you up to the point where your name is distinguishable from the other 1000 subdefault posters.


Lol. Despite our difference of opinion on some things. I like you Smash.
#118gbaji, Posted: Apr 09 2008 at 2:50 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) No. You're thinking fuedalism, or mercantilism, or even socialism. Ok. Basically, all economic systems *except* capitalism...
#119 Apr 09 2008 at 2:53 PM Rating: Good
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No. You're thinking fuedalism, or mercantilism, or even socialism. Ok. Basically, all economic systems *except* capitalism...


I know, in Capitalism wealth is magically created for all, it's just coincidence it ends up that the top 1% get more and more wealthy as the standard of living for the middle class continues to fall.

Anyway, I'm not having this discussion with someone who doesn't have the math for it. If some day you progress to the point of understanding it sufficiently we can discuss our differing philosophies. Until then, no.

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#120 Apr 09 2008 at 2:57 PM Rating: Excellent
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I know, in Capitalism wealth is magically created for all,


I always wondered what happened when I waived that magic wand I found....
#121 Apr 09 2008 at 3:59 PM Rating: Excellent
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I know, in Capitalism wealth is magically created for all,


I always wondered what happened when I waived that magic wand I found....


Not much if you waived it.

Hahahahahaaaaaa....................
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#122 Apr 09 2008 at 4:46 PM Rating: Excellent
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cpcjlc wrote:
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I know, in Capitalism wealth is magically created for all,


I always wondered what happened when I waived that magic wand I found....


Not much if you waived it.

Hahahahahaaaaaa....................


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#123gbaji, Posted: Apr 09 2008 at 4:53 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Really? So someone earning a median "working class" income today (somewhere around say 38k/year IIRC), has a worse standard of living then the exact same person making the exact same adjusted income back in 1908?
#124 Apr 09 2008 at 5:14 PM Rating: Excellent
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#125 Apr 09 2008 at 7:29 PM Rating: Excellent
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#126 Apr 10 2008 at 1:22 AM Rating: Good
gbaji wrote:
Simple observation shows that the marriage of capitalism with industrialism has in fact, despite the fears of folks like Karl Marx, resulted in a much higher degree of prosperity for the working class then alternatives like say socialism.


BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!


The relative prosperity and living standard of the working classes in the developed world is largely due, not to capitalism, but to forces that actively work to restrict capitalism's excesses, such as labor unions and socialist government. A rising tide does NOT lift all boats on its own.

P.S. I hope that, unlike most of my fellow Americans, you can appreciate the fact the Marx was not a socialist; he was an anarcho-communist, which is a VASTLY different animal.
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