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#1 Apr 08 2008 at 1:25 AM Rating: Good
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I wonder if Barack Hussein Obama is in any way concerned about the thin Muslim connection he has-- even if it is only through his name? Imagine that between now and the November election that another major terrorist attack by Islamofacists occurs. Would his name taint him in any way? He has notably abandoned his nickname "Barry" for his proper name. Six and a half years have passed since 9/11. I question whether he could have the traction he has now had the attack occured this past September.

Another "what if?" Suppose OBL decides to ***** with American politics just for the sheer joy of doing so and endorses Obama as a fellow Muslim. Granted, Barack is not, nor has he indicated he has any ties to that religion, but considering Osama bin Laden is and has been largely irrelevant for the past five years, short of another major terrorist attack, is this the only way OBL could impact American life? And if you were in his shoes, why wouldn't you endorse him just to d1ck with the US populace? After being stuck in a cave since forever, you'd likely get a good chuckle out of the ant mound you just kicked over. I know I'd do it if I were him.

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#2 Apr 08 2008 at 1:36 AM Rating: Decent
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I question whether he could have the traction he has now had the attack occured this past September


Obviously not. You morons get all spun up with fear if 10 people die 1000 miles away and they look like you. McCain will win in a massive landslide if there's a major terrorist attack between now and the election.



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#3 Apr 08 2008 at 1:44 AM Rating: Good
Who cares about his fUcking name??

I find all these insinuations quite insane. I understand the Republicans are scared of losing the WH, but implying at every opportunity that he is somewhat "connected" to Muslims, or that he is just a Manchurian candidate for Muslim extremists is beyond a joke. I wish I could be certain that no one is stupid enough to fall for that kind of crap, but well...

I do think the Osama theory is plausible, though. He'll want McCain to win, for sure, and the best way to ensure that would be for him to "endorse" Obama.
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#4 Apr 08 2008 at 1:48 AM Rating: Decent
It would be a momentus occasion indeed if they were to "endorse" Obama.

Generally they view "deserters" of their religion in a worse light than they do us evil Westerners.
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He has notably abandoned his nickname "Barry" for his proper name.
Nothing says "terrorist" quite like "Barry".
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I wish I could be certain that no one is stupid enough to fall for that kind of crap


You haven't spent much time in the states, have you?

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#7 Apr 08 2008 at 4:10 AM Rating: Good
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I would've thought that OBL is hoping that McCain wins a huge landslide.

That way he can keep on building on all the good work that GW and his chums in the Whitehouse have achieved in furthering the cause of muslim extremism over the last 5 years.
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#8 Apr 08 2008 at 5:19 AM Rating: Decent
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What would be really funny is if OBL "endorsed" him and he won anyway. Man, that would make me laugh.

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I'm more curious of the impact of an OBL capture between now and the election. I'd only put the odds of this at about 15%, but that's not insubstantial.

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#10 Apr 08 2008 at 6:11 AM Rating: Good
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You haven't spent much time in the states, have you?


In total, maybe 2 months.

I went to the "Dee Brown and Robert Parish basket-ball camp" near Boston for 2 weeks, when I was 15. It was awesome, I even did a 1-1 with Dee Brown, and barely managed a dribble, let alone a shot. I still got the tee-shirt. The other kids were nice, I got asked if we had TVs in France, and why French people were gay, which almost got me in a fight.

I also did a road trip with my dad from San Fran to Phoenix, via LA, disneyland, zion canyon, grand canyon, death valley, las vegas, etc... Was awesome, but I was like 13, so I couldn't enjoy quite as much as I would now.

And then I went to New-York maybe 10-11 years ago, for a week, and it was absolutely insane. My older brother met this French rap band called IAM who were recording their album in NY. They invited us to their recording studio, and we watched as they recorded stuff, passed the joints and generally messed around. I also went to see the Knicks-Cavs at MSG, when Ewing, and Price were playing. Mark Price, the little white guy? I think that was him...

I also went to Puerto Rico for 2 weeks, though that's not quite the US, though it kinda is, but not really.

And then I'm coming to Chicago in 3 weeks, for a about a week, with my dad again, who, I guess, is quite an americanophile. But even though I've been there a few times, I never really met anyone that I couldn't have found in Europe, in a way. I was either too young to have meaningful discussions, or I was in places that are too cosmopolitan.

Or was that a rethorical question?
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#11 Apr 08 2008 at 6:22 AM Rating: Decent
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or I was in places that are too cosmopolitan.


You were. If Boston, Chicago, LA, and Vegas were representative of the US, Bush would have won about 15% of the vote in 2000.


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#12 Apr 08 2008 at 6:25 AM Rating: Decent
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I also did a road trip with my dad from San Fran to Phoenix, via LA, disneyland, zion canyon, grand canyon, death valley, las vegas, etc... Was awesome, but I was like 13, so I couldn't enjoy quite as much as I would now.


You can keep Disneyland and Vegas, but I'd do the rest of that road trip.

The first time I did a deep wall dive I told my mom, "It's just like Bryce Canyon but under water!"

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#13 Apr 08 2008 at 6:34 AM Rating: Decent
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The first time I did a deep wall dive


You're such an enigma. Next week I expect "The first three times I played keyboards for the Dead..."

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#14 Apr 08 2008 at 6:36 AM Rating: Decent
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Smasharoo wrote:

The first time I did a deep wall dive


You're such an enigma. Next week I expect "The first three times I played keyboards for the Dead..."



I am not Vince Welnick, for which I am profoundly grateful.

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#15 Apr 08 2008 at 6:37 AM Rating: Good
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The first time I did a deep wall dive I told my mom, "It's just like Bryce Canyon but under water!"


I can't remember if it was Bryce canion or Zion canyon, but we even did a short helicopter trip over one of those. It was really quite beautiful.

Vegas sucked as a 13-year old. Disney was ok. Universal Studios was a piece of ****, even at that young credulous age. The "Jaws" bit, where some crappy plastic shark with cables coming out of his ears comes out of the water, was the killer blow. We did get some cool posters with my face instead of Luke Skywalker, so it wasn't all lost I guess.
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#16 Apr 08 2008 at 6:42 AM Rating: Good
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I'm more curious of the impact of an OBL capture between now and the election. I'd only put the odds of this at about 15%, but that's not insubstantial.


I was fairly certain the OBL capture reveal would have been done last election. However, Rove probably realized that they wouldn't need that to beat Kerry, so they're probably holding onto that trump card until the fall.
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#17 Apr 08 2008 at 6:45 AM Rating: Decent
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I was fairly certain the OBL capture reveal would have been done last election. However, Rove probably realized that they wouldn't need that to beat Kerry, so they're probably holding onto that trump card until the fall.


Haha, I actually meant in a non conspiracy way, that the current situation in Pakistan is a lot more conducive to someone giving up his location than it has been in years.

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#18 Apr 08 2008 at 6:50 AM Rating: Good
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Who cares about his fUcking name??


While I agree, I found myself asking almost he same thing when everyone played and re-played Dean's obnoxious yell, which pretty much shut him out of the election.

It's a little frightening what could turn an election, and OBL endorsing someone, whether they had Muslim ties or not, would send the nation into a panic.
#19 Apr 08 2008 at 6:53 AM Rating: Good
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paulsol the Righteous wrote:
I would've thought that OBL is hoping that McCain wins a huge landslide.

That way he can keep on building on all the good work that GW and his chums in the Whitehouse have achieved in furthering the cause of muslim extremism over the last 5 years.
I would think that this is the opposite of what the extremists want. Isn't it the Republican party's foreign policy and meddling in the middle-east exactly what made the extremists hate us so much in the first place?
#20 Apr 08 2008 at 6:58 AM Rating: Good
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paulsol the Righteous wrote:
I would've thought that OBL is hoping that McCain wins a huge landslide.

That way he can keep on building on all the good work that GW and his chums in the Whitehouse have achieved in furthering the cause of muslim extremism over the last 5 years.
I would think that this is the opposite of what the extremists want. Isn't it the Republican party's foreign policy and meddling in the middle-east exactly what made the extremists hate us so much in the first place?


Wouldn't OBL be out of a job if everyone started liking us suddenly?
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AshOnMyTomatoes, Guardian of the Glade wrote:
paulsol the Righteous wrote:
I would've thought that OBL is hoping that McCain wins a huge landslide.

That way he can keep on building on all the good work that GW and his chums in the Whitehouse have achieved in furthering the cause of muslim extremism over the last 5 years.
I would think that this is the opposite of what the extremists want. Isn't it the Republican party's foreign policy and meddling in the middle-east exactly what made the extremists hate us so much in the first place?


Wouldn't OBL be out of a job if everyone started liking us suddenly?
I'd like to think that extremists aren't looking for job security, and actually want to achieve a goal.
#22 Apr 08 2008 at 7:02 AM Rating: Excellent
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Isn't it the Republican party's foreign policy and meddling in the middle-east exactly what made the extremists hate us so much in the first place?


Not exactly. It's a combination of things.

But its gone further than this now. The guys like OBL (if he's still alive) and AQ high-command are not really going to turn back now. Their personal cause has stopped being an end to US foreign policy practices, and has become the perpetuation of jihad. Every Muslim country invaded or threatened, every US/Israeli bomb that kills Muslims, all the hawkish talks about bombing Iran and staying in Iraq for 100 years, they all help create volunteers to their cause. They are the best recruitment tools for AQ. The fuel to their propaganda and their West against Muslims" vision of the world.

The day we get world leaders who actually address the real problems, you know, Israel/Palestine, the dictators we support all over the Muslim world, the lack of education and the poverty kept in place by those despots, the failed states, will be the day AQ recruitment starts to dry up.
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I'd like to think that extremists aren't looking for job security, and actually want to achieve a goal.


Yeah, but that goal is worldwide conversion to Islam. There's no candidate that makes that more likely.

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#24 Apr 08 2008 at 7:02 AM Rating: Good
AshOnMyTomatoes, Guardian of the Glade wrote:
I'd like to think that extremists aren't looking for job security, and actually want to achieve a goal.


Well, I would think that their goal is the downfall of Western culture. And it's much easier to keep followers if you've got a leader of that country that is controversial and everyone hates.
#25 Apr 08 2008 at 7:05 AM Rating: Good
AshOnMyTomatoes, Guardian of the Glade wrote:
I'd like to think that extremists aren't looking for job security, and actually want to achieve a goal.


You have to divide between the high-command, the guys who recruit and send people to their death, and those that volunteer to get killed. The former don't want it to end. This jihad is their whole reason for being. It's who they are.

The people that get sent to die, though, might be different. They might believe in what they're doing. They might've been sufficiently brainwashed to think their death will mean something in the grand-scale of things. But the goal of these two echelons are different, though they might appear the same.
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Samira wrote:
The first time I did a deep wall dive I told my mom, "It's just like Bryce Canyon but under water!"


I can't remember if it was Bryce canion or Zion canyon, but we even did a short helicopter trip over one of those. It was really quite beautiful.



I've never done that helicopter tour. I'll have to put that on the list.

Bryce and Zion are pretty similar. I think Zion is more popular.

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