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#27 Apr 07 2008 at 5:17 PM Rating: Excellent
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I found that often a author will use a pen name, when they write stories in another genre then normal. Seems to be a lot of pen names in SF/Fantasy. I was just reading a book review in Kirkus Reviews that mention how it was written under a pen name.

Iain M. Banks -
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His latest sci-fi
novel (he also writes more
mainstream literary fiction
under the slightly different
name Iain Banks), Matter


People always are saying I should write about my life. I find it too unbelievable to be a true story. Maybe I can get Kilore Trout to write it Smiley: wink
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#28 Apr 07 2008 at 6:30 PM Rating: Good
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but can you make sure in some way that they're not allowed to ever tell anyone who you really are?


Not sure where you live. But in the US you can have the publisher sign a confidentiality agreement. It's not a 100% deturrant but it definatly helps and makes them legally liable if someone outs you. They can make anyone working on the project sign an agreement as well.
#29 Apr 07 2008 at 10:22 PM Rating: Decent
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makes them legally liable if someone outs you.
No it doesn't
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#30 Apr 08 2008 at 7:06 AM Rating: Decent
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makes them legally liable if someone outs you.
No it doesn't


Yes it does. It makes them legally liabel civily. A former classmate of mine had a confidentiality agreement with the company he worked for. He spoke about what he was working on to the wrong person, it got back to the company, and they sued him and won.

Nobby, I've come to the conclusion that you are going to argue with me no matter what I say. I can say, "There are no clouds in the sky and the sky looks blue" and you would argue with me about what color the sky looks. Do you have something against me that I don't know about?
#31 Apr 08 2008 at 7:07 AM Rating: Decent
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Yes it does. It makes them legally liabel civily.


No, it does if THEY out you, not if "someone" outs you.

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#32 Apr 08 2008 at 7:12 AM Rating: Good
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Nobby, I've come to the conclusion that you are going to argue with me no matter what I say. I can say, "There are no clouds in the sky and the sky looks blue" and you would argue with me about what color the sky looks. Do you have something against me that I don't know about?


At a guess, you're a squishy thinker and he is somewhat disdainful of that.

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#33 Apr 08 2008 at 7:45 AM Rating: Default
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At a guess, you're a squishy thinker and he is somewhat disdainful of that.


My guess is it is because I tend to be more conserative thinking than most of the people who post here. Even if I make a valid point, most won't even try to bend their thinking to admit it could even possibly be viable. Most of you guys who are "liberal" sure don't like to consider other peoples opinions.
#34 Apr 08 2008 at 7:46 AM Rating: Good
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At a guess, you're a squishy thinker and he is somewhat disdainful of that.


My guess is it is because I tend to be more conserative thinking than most of the people who post here. Even if I make a valid point, most won't even try to bend their thinking to admit it could even possibly be viable. Most of you guys who are "liberal" sure don't like to consider other peoples opinions.


I don't think that's it. I think it's that you're not a particularly good writer and need to reread what you write a couple times before you click "post".

Consider the "how to construct a peanut butter and jelly sandwich" exercise.

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#35 Apr 08 2008 at 7:47 AM Rating: Decent
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Yes it does. It makes them legally liabel civily.

No, it does if THEY out you, not if "someone" outs you.


True, and thats what I ment. I'll admit my mistake and in the future try to be more percise in my wording.
#36 Apr 08 2008 at 7:50 AM Rating: Default
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I don't think that's it. I think it's that you're not a particularly good writer and need to reread what you write a couple times before you click "post".

Consider the "how to construct a peanut butter and jelly sandwich" exercise.


I tend to write to a more consertive audience. It's true that sometimes I pick my words based on this. I'll try to be more universal in my language in the future. And thank you Nexa for giving advice and not just flaming away. I truely do appreciate it.
#37 Apr 08 2008 at 7:52 AM Rating: Good
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cpcjlc wrote:
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I don't think that's it. I think it's that you're not a particularly good writer and need to reread what you write a couple times before you click "post".

Consider the "how to construct a peanut butter and jelly sandwich" exercise.


I tend to write to a more consertive audience. It's true that sometimes I pick my words based on this. I'll try to be more universal in my language in the future. And thank you Nexa for giving advice and not just flaming away. I truely do appreciate it.


Well, you're new here, and we have to deal with, "well that's not what I mean when I said xyz" here on a daily basis. The arguments over semantics are as exhausting as they are annoying and we tend to disregard the opinions of those who do not write clearly since we don't want to debate with the vague. Hopefully that makes sense.

For what it's worth, you seem ok. Your user name sucks though.

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#38 Apr 08 2008 at 7:53 AM Rating: Decent
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cpcjlc wrote:
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I don't think that's it. I think it's that you're not a particularly good writer and need to reread what you write a couple times before you click "post".

Consider the "how to construct a peanut butter and jelly sandwich" exercise.


I tend to write to a more consertive audience. It's true that sometimes I pick my words based on this. I'll try to be more universal in my language in the future. And thank you Nexa for giving advice and not just flaming away. I truely do appreciate it.


I think you misunderstand what is being said. It isn't just the words you choose that are imprecise; it's the ideas behind them.

The only connection with liberal vs. conservative may be the difference in education levels; I'm not sure about that. I disagree with Totem all the time, but you'll rarely find me questioning his means of expression.

When did conservative forum posters all become such sensitive girls?
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#39 Apr 08 2008 at 7:57 AM Rating: Decent
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Your user name sucks though.


LOL. I promise it has meaning though. It's just not a bunch of letters randomly strung together.
#40 Apr 08 2008 at 7:58 AM Rating: Decent
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Your user name sucks though.


LOL. I promise it has meaning though. It's just not a bunch of letters randomly strung together.


It doesn't matter, but as long as you don't mind no one ever remembering who you are you can leave it that way. Back to the subject of Pen Names, one of the top reasons for an author to pick a pen name is that their real name is too hard to remember.

Nexa

Edited, Apr 8th 2008 11:59am by Nexa
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#41 Apr 08 2008 at 8:00 AM Rating: Good
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Hey now. That's sexism, and sexism is wrong.
#42 Apr 08 2008 at 8:06 AM Rating: Good
Nexa wrote:
Back to the subject of Pen Names, one of the top reasons for an author to pick a pen name is that their real name is too hard to remember.

Nexa


I asked my husband if he would mind if I ever got a book published (this was back when I actually wrote a bit and thought one day I might finish one of my projects. HA!) I would publish under my maiden name. It was original, and I, personally, wouldn't want everyone to know my real name.

This is, of course, assuming that I would be a terribly popular author and people would want to try to find me.
#43 Apr 08 2008 at 8:16 AM Rating: Decent
When I finally finish and publish something, I'm using the name Jacob Cadillac. Don't tell anyone that I'm really Barkingturtle, please.
#44 Apr 08 2008 at 8:24 AM Rating: Good
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Thumbelyna wrote:
If you want to use a pen name, it's generally outlined in whatever written agreement you have with your publisher. It's just the pka, "profesionally known as."


Smiley: nod

I seem to remember reading that King got outed as Bachman due to someone digging through public records. Yes, there were suspicions by fans and retailers, but he was never officially exposed till that happened. I would imagine if you dug deep enough you would be able to find anyone out, especially in this age.
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