I don't think any of you are experts in the publishing industry, but seeing as you're very accessible, I'll ask just in case. I have a question about the use of pen names that I can't find the answer to in a 30 second google search, haha.
Question: If you publish under a pen name, is there a way for someone to find out? I mean, obviously some people at the publishing company would know, but can you make sure in some way that they're not allowed to ever tell anyone who you really are?
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“It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes. But a half-wit remains a half-wit, and the emperor remains an emperor.â€
― Neil Gaiman, The Sandman, Vol. 9: The Kindly Ones
― Neil Gaiman, The Sandman, Vol. 9: The Kindly Ones
Ready to publish that stack of erotic short fiction, Nexa?
I know next to nothing about the publishing industry, but obviously it is possible. The authors I know about whose alter identities have been outed, made the decision to do so themselves. The rest is a black box - how many do I not know about?
I know next to nothing about the publishing industry, but obviously it is possible. The authors I know about whose alter identities have been outed, made the decision to do so themselves. The rest is a black box - how many do I not know about?
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
Samira wrote:
Ready to publish that stack of erotic short fiction, Nexa?
I know next to nothing about the publishing industry, but obviously it is possible. The authors I know about whose alter identities have been outed, made the decision to do so themselves. The rest is a black box - how many do I not know about?
I know next to nothing about the publishing industry, but obviously it is possible. The authors I know about whose alter identities have been outed, made the decision to do so themselves. The rest is a black box - how many do I not know about?
haha, no erotic fiction, haha.
I wasn't sure if the publisher could make that decision, or if the author's themselves had to do it. Obviously, a contract is a contract, but I didn't know if publishers generally left the right to drop anonyminity to the author or if they retained the right to expose the real author if they felt it would benefit them in some way in the future. I know that Stephen King's alter ego was outed after critics kept making comparisons of their work (essentially labeling Richard Bachman as a hack, haha)...but I didn't know if King decided to go ahead with it or if the publishing company just did it since it was in their best interests.
Nexa
“It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes. But a half-wit remains a half-wit, and the emperor remains an emperor.â€
― Neil Gaiman, The Sandman, Vol. 9: The Kindly Ones
― Neil Gaiman, The Sandman, Vol. 9: The Kindly Ones
Not 100% sure but I think King saw the sense in outing Bachman and re-releasing some titles.
He's not shy. I think there would have been a ********* if the publisher decided to do any such thing over his wishes, or (worse) unilaterally. Any move like that, having the potential to damage his name, would be carefully vetted and probably covered in a contract somewhere.
Also, there's the question of having different publishers at different times and potentially under different names, all of which makes my head hurt.
He's not shy. I think there would have been a ********* if the publisher decided to do any such thing over his wishes, or (worse) unilaterally. Any move like that, having the potential to damage his name, would be carefully vetted and probably covered in a contract somewhere.
Also, there's the question of having different publishers at different times and potentially under different names, all of which makes my head hurt.
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
Mostly, I think it would be super funny to drive Smash ******* crazy by publishing a book and not letting him read it.
*hugs herself*
Nexa
*hugs herself*
Nexa
“It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes. But a half-wit remains a half-wit, and the emperor remains an emperor.â€
― Neil Gaiman, The Sandman, Vol. 9: The Kindly Ones
― Neil Gaiman, The Sandman, Vol. 9: The Kindly Ones
Nexa wrote:
Question: If you publish under a pen name, is there a way for someone to find out? I mean, obviously some people at the publishing company would know, but can you make sure in some way that they're not allowed to ever tell anyone who you really are?
Nexa
(no one here would give you away)
Alma wrote:
I lost my post
I've actually looked into this in the past.
It's exceedingly rare for publishers to "out" someone. I'm sure they could be subpoenaed if they published an autobiography of Hoffa's killer or something, but in practice it's almost always the author's decision.
You aren't asking about your thesis, are you? Because that's a whole 'nother story. ATM machine.
It's exceedingly rare for publishers to "out" someone. I'm sure they could be subpoenaed if they published an autobiography of Hoffa's killer or something, but in practice it's almost always the author's decision.
You aren't asking about your thesis, are you? Because that's a whole 'nother story. ATM machine.
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To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
Mostly, I think it would be super funny to drive Smash batsh*t crazy by publishing a book and not letting him read it.
If this is some sort of twisted reverse psychology thing to get me to finish writing something and publish it before you do....
it's working.
Disclaimer:
To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
Smasharoo wrote:
Mostly, I think it would be super funny to drive Smash batsh*t crazy by publishing a book and not letting him read it.
If this is some sort of twisted reverse psychology thing to get me to finish writing something and publish it before you do....
it's working.
Competition keeps couples together!
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
Smasharoo wrote:
You aren't asking about your thesis, are you? Because that's a whole 'nother story. ATM machine.
haha, no, my thesis, if published, will be published under my own name.
Nexa
“It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes. But a half-wit remains a half-wit, and the emperor remains an emperor.â€
― Neil Gaiman, The Sandman, Vol. 9: The Kindly Ones
― Neil Gaiman, The Sandman, Vol. 9: The Kindly Ones
Smasharoo wrote:
Mostly, I think it would be super funny to drive Smash batsh*t crazy by publishing a book and not letting him read it.
If this is some sort of twisted reverse psychology thing to get me to finish writing something and publish it before you do....
it's working.
Well let's go with that then!
Nexa
“It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes. But a half-wit remains a half-wit, and the emperor remains an emperor.â€
― Neil Gaiman, The Sandman, Vol. 9: The Kindly Ones
― Neil Gaiman, The Sandman, Vol. 9: The Kindly Ones
Well let's go with that then!
I hate you. You're just the sort of monkey to have a ready to publish book lying around that you never mentioned.
Grrr.
Disclaimer:
To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
Smasharoo wrote:
Well let's go with that then!
I hate you. You're just the sort of monkey to have a ready to publish book lying around that you never mentioned.
Grrr.
You know me better than that. I'm more the sort of monkey to have one or more never ready to publish books lying around that I never mentioned...the sort that I'll crawl out of my death bed to dig up from the back yard to burn in order to assure that no one ever read them so that I can die peacefully.
Nexa
“It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes. But a half-wit remains a half-wit, and the emperor remains an emperor.â€
― Neil Gaiman, The Sandman, Vol. 9: The Kindly Ones
― Neil Gaiman, The Sandman, Vol. 9: The Kindly Ones
Ok, so back on the subject of pen names...harder to get away with if you want to publish something as non fiction? I would wager so.
Nexa
Nexa
“It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes. But a half-wit remains a half-wit, and the emperor remains an emperor.â€
― Neil Gaiman, The Sandman, Vol. 9: The Kindly Ones
― Neil Gaiman, The Sandman, Vol. 9: The Kindly Ones
Ok, so back on the subject of pen names...harder to get away with if you want to publish something as non fiction? I would wager so.
Probably not harder to get away with, but I'd imagine much harder to sell a book on Ancient Near History written by Ramses Inurbut than by Bob Wilson, PhD.
Disclaimer:
To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
Smasharoo wrote:
Ok, so back on the subject of pen names...harder to get away with if you want to publish something as non fiction? I would wager so.
Probably not harder to get away with, but I'd imagine much harder to sell a book on Ancient Near History written by Ramses Inurbut than by Bob Wilson, PhD.
Yeah, if it's something that would be subject to industry expertise/peer review, better to have the creds up front.
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
Smasharoo wrote:
Ok, so back on the subject of pen names...harder to get away with if you want to publish something as non fiction? I would wager so.
Probably not harder to get away with, but I'd imagine much harder to sell a book on Ancient Near History written by Ramses Inurbut than by Bob Wilson, PhD.
haha, true, but let's go with a memoir that I would rather die than have my mother read.
Nexa
“It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes. But a half-wit remains a half-wit, and the emperor remains an emperor.â€
― Neil Gaiman, The Sandman, Vol. 9: The Kindly Ones
― Neil Gaiman, The Sandman, Vol. 9: The Kindly Ones
Nexa wrote:
Smasharoo wrote:
Ok, so back on the subject of pen names...harder to get away with if you want to publish something as non fiction? I would wager so.
Probably not harder to get away with, but I'd imagine much harder to sell a book on Ancient Near History written by Ramses Inurbut than by Bob Wilson, PhD.
haha, true, but let's go with a memoir that I would rather die than have my mother read.
Nexa
Oh! Well, in that case you'd probably want to publish it as fiction lest it undergo the sort of scrutiny that seems to be in vogue.
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
haha, true, but let's go with a memoir that I would rather die than have my mother read
Oh! There are lots of "terrible things happened to me when I was a girl" books published under pen names. I'm pretty sure there was a whole series of "I was kidnapped by a satanic cut" books written under a pen name.
You'd probably be fine.
Disclaimer:
To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
Samira wrote:
Nexa wrote:
Smasharoo wrote:
Ok, so back on the subject of pen names...harder to get away with if you want to publish something as non fiction? I would wager so.
Probably not harder to get away with, but I'd imagine much harder to sell a book on Ancient Near History written by Ramses Inurbut than by Bob Wilson, PhD.
haha, true, but let's go with a memoir that I would rather die than have my mother read.
Nexa
Oh! Well, in that case you'd probably want to publish it as fiction lest it undergo the sort of scrutiny that seems to be in vogue.
I thought of that, but it wouldn't be right as fiction. The vision I have is full of statistics and general commentary on the state of the country.
Ok then, I've said about as much as I'm going to say now, haha...thanks for the info though.
Nexa
“It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes. But a half-wit remains a half-wit, and the emperor remains an emperor.â€
― Neil Gaiman, The Sandman, Vol. 9: The Kindly Ones
― Neil Gaiman, The Sandman, Vol. 9: The Kindly Ones
Smasharoo wrote:
Oh! There are lots of "terrible things happened to me when I was a girl" books published under pen names. I'm pretty sure there was a whole series of "I was kidnapped by a satanic cut" books written under a pen name.
You'd probably be fine.
Thank you darling. I don't know how anyone could think of you as anything other than charming.
Nexa
“It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes. But a half-wit remains a half-wit, and the emperor remains an emperor.â€
― Neil Gaiman, The Sandman, Vol. 9: The Kindly Ones
― Neil Gaiman, The Sandman, Vol. 9: The Kindly Ones
Phillip Jose Farmer published a novel as Kilgore Trout - a fictitious writer who appears in several of Kurt Vonnegut's novels. Farmer had Vonnegut's permission to do this, and kept the secret of Trout's true identity for quite a while before outing himself.
If you want to use a pen name, it's generally outlined in whatever written agreement you have with your publisher. It's just the pka, "profesionally known as."
You could use the pen name "Mark Penn" and if anyone asked, claim no, it's the other one!
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