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#1 Apr 04 2008 at 12:28 PM Rating: Excellent
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VERY informal poll:

If someone said that John Doe was "Financially Secure", you would take that to mean:
I'm female and think it means "He is independantly wealthy/rich/doesn't need to work":2 (4.3%)
I'm female and think it means "He has a job and can support himself":15 (31.9%)
I'm male and think it means "He is independantly wealthy/rich/doesn't need to work":5 (10.6%)
I'm male and think it means "He has a job and can support himself":25 (53.2%)
Total:47


Feel free to comment if none of these fit.

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Edited, Apr 4th 2008 4:29pm by Nexa
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#2 Apr 04 2008 at 12:35 PM Rating: Decent
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I think this needs more context. As in a woman says she's looking for a man who is financially secure.
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#3 Apr 04 2008 at 12:38 PM Rating: Good
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I chose the second option, then thought that I really wanted to expand upon it a bit. My idea of a person who is financially secure means not only can that person take care of him/herself, but a family should he/she decide to have one. An income that could support a single woman won't go as far supporting, say, a woman whose husband is in school full-time and who has a child in daycare.
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#4 Apr 04 2008 at 12:38 PM Rating: Excellent
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Smasharoo wrote:
I think this needs more context. As in a woman says she's looking for a man who is financially secure.


Oh? So you would take the term to mean two different things if it was said by one gender or the other as well? What about if it's someone referring to themself vs. someone referring to someone else?

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#5 Apr 04 2008 at 12:40 PM Rating: Decent
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So you would take the term to mean two different things if it was said by one gender or the other as well?

Not particularly, but I'd take it to mean something different with absolutely no context just as I would most any phrase.

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#6 Apr 04 2008 at 12:43 PM Rating: Excellent
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Nexa wrote:
Smasharoo wrote:
I think this needs more context. As in a woman says she's looking for a man who is financially secure.


Oh? So you would take the term to mean two different things if it was said by one gender or the other as well? What about if it's someone referring to themself vs. someone referring to someone else?

Nexa


Right. If I say I'm financially secure, I mean I'm a responsible adult. If I say a man is financially secure, obviously I mean he's a great catch.

If I say another woman is financially secure I mean "until her looks go."

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#7 Apr 04 2008 at 12:45 PM Rating: Good
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Ambrya wrote:
My idea of a person who is financially secure means not only can that person take care of him/herself, but a family should he/she decide to have one.


Told you, Nexa. When a woman says it, she's really saying, "capable of supporting me".

Honestly, the context, the question and the answers don't matter, because if I don't pay for dinner and a movie, I'm an assh*le.
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None fit, to me as a man it means "I don't really want to work for a living, so i'll marry someone with earning enough money that i don't have to"

Hell i don't blame them, I don't want to work either!

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#9 Apr 04 2008 at 12:47 PM Rating: Excellent
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Barkingturtle wrote:
Ambrya wrote:
My idea of a person who is financially secure means not only can that person take care of him/herself, but a family should he/she decide to have one.


Told you, Nexa. When a woman says it, she's really saying, "capable of supporting me".

Honestly, the context, the question and the answers don't matter, because if I don't pay for dinner and a movie, I'm an assh*le.


It's funny for me because I'm such a control freak and so insecure that I'd never be able to put myself in the position of being taken care of/supported financially. I'd have to at least be able to support myself minimally. And a note: I'm also obsessive about paying for half of dates, or doing the you pay once, I pay once sort of thing when I'm dating someone.

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#10 Apr 04 2008 at 12:50 PM Rating: Excellent
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Honestly, pro forma ********** aside I don't care about money as long as I have some in my pocket. I don't care if a guy is "financially secure" or not as long as I don't get the skeevy feeling that he wants to use me as a good thing.

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as long as I don't get the skeevy feeling that he wants to use me as a good thing.


See, I sort of dig that vibe from chicks.

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#12 Apr 04 2008 at 12:53 PM Rating: Excellent
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Smasharoo wrote:

as long as I don't get the skeevy feeling that he wants to use me as a good thing.


See, I sort of dig that vibe from chicks.



It's the robot pimp in you.

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Nexa wrote:
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It's funny for me because I'm such a control freak and so insecure that I'd never be able to put myself in the position of being taken care of/supported financially.

Nexa


Well see, you're the kind of woman I'm looking for!

The kind who's been damaged.
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Barkingturtle wrote:
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It's funny for me because I'm such a control freak and so insecure that I'd never be able to put myself in the position of being taken care of/supported financially.

Nexa


Well see, you're the kind of woman I'm looking for!

The kind who's been damaged.


That's evidently very attractive to a lot of men!

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I picked "has a job". If someone is able to loiter about without working, I consider them to be independently wealthy.
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Jophiel wrote:
I picked "has a job". If someone is able to loiter about without working, I consider them to be independently wealthy.


Same here. Financially secure to me just means that you're able to pay your bills and aren't likely to be out on the street looking through garbage cans for your next meal anytime soon.
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Same.
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gbaji wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
I picked "has a job". If someone is able to loiter about without working, I consider them to be independently wealthy.


Same here. Financially secure to me just means that you're able to pay your bills and aren't likely to be out on the street looking through garbage cans for your next meal anytime soon.


I wouldn't call that secure, **** can hit you unexpectedly. Not sure what I'd call it, but not secure. Secure would be knowing you wouldn't have to worry about the unexpected, but not necessarily independently wealthy.
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I would have picked "has 2 jobs and gets paid to play video games" but that wasn't an option on the list.
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I would take that to mean that he is financially responsible. He is able to own a home, hold down a good paying job, not spend all his money on stupid frivolous **** and that he is probably using IRA/STOCKS/BONDS ect.
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I would take that to mean that he is financially responsible. He is able to own a home, hold down a good paying job, not spend all his money on stupid frivolous sh*t and that he is probably using IRA/STOCKS/BONDS ect.


THAT is what I was digging for!
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#22 Apr 04 2008 at 4:02 PM Rating: Good
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I picked the "has job/supports self" one. I did the support a deadbeat boyfriend deal before and it really sucked after a while. I have never expected someone to support me and I am still uncomfortable to this day that I don't earn my own money.
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Barkingturtle wrote:
Ambrya wrote:
My idea of a person who is financially secure means not only can that person take care of him/herself, but a family should he/she decide to have one.


Told you, Nexa. When a woman says it, she's really saying, "capable of supporting me".



Um, yeah, right. Because you know, the example I cited didn't have a woman supporting the family or anything.
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if he can hold down a decent job, can pay the mortgage on a house and utilities, plus all the other things that come along with an independent life, and still save, that would be financially secure in my eyes.
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What do you mean by "secure" exactly. If someone has a job and can pay all their bills, but would lose everything if they got laid off and couldn't find a comparable job within a couple months, would you say they are secure. Do you have some standard of how long someone can maintain their current lifestyle level without an income. A lot of well paid people get laid off everyday. Some find another job and make it, some don't.

I see someone who is financially secure as someone who is supporting their current lifestyle, has a decent enough savings account to maintain that life style for several months if their income suddenly dried up, and the skills to find another job of comparable pay fairly soon if they were to get laid off.
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What do you mean by "secure" exactly. If someone has a job and can pay all their bills, but would lose everything if they got laid off and couldn't find a comparable job within a couple months, would you say they are secure.


No.

The rule of thumb is at least six months. I wouldn't be comfortable with a margin that narrow, personally.

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