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#77 Apr 05 2008 at 11:50 AM Rating: Decent
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Remember what it was without me.


Quiet?

Thank you, thank you, drive safe.



Perhaps so, but severely lacking in steak.

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#78 Apr 05 2008 at 11:55 AM Rating: Good
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Nexa wrote:
Perhaps so, but severely lacking in steak.
Also: bewbs.
#79 Apr 05 2008 at 11:59 AM Rating: Decent
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Atomicflea wrote:
Nexa wrote:
Perhaps so, but severely lacking in steak.
Also: bewbs.


I bet if most men had the choice between a flat chested woman and steak or a big rack and no steak for the rest of their lives...bewbs would suddenly be less significant.

Moral: It's the *** that counts.

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#80 Apr 05 2008 at 12:20 PM Rating: Excellent
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#81 Apr 05 2008 at 12:24 PM Rating: Excellent
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I've dropped all of my preconceived expectations being that women are aliens and usually not to be trusted. Most of the time people can catch on to what you are looking for and what you want to see and hear and use that to their advantage of getting you hooked in the first place... and then once they do a complete 360 you cannot come to grips with the fact that you have been utterly fooled so you go on thinking about what it is that you did wrong to make this person change when really it was them who were deceiving you in the first place.

no, I'm not fucking bitter about anything


I gotta go with this - spot on with the caveat that I'm not bitter. Instead, I'm just so damaged in trusting someone that the idea of a relationship truly exhausts me. It would have to take someone amazing to help me "heal" (for lack of a better word) my trust issues. I do put myself out there for casual dating so I'm not falling into being a complete hermit.

With that said, I'd like to meet someone who is:

1. Funny, good sense of humor - make each other laugh
2. Educated, well-read, can carry on intelligent conversations
3. Geeky is a plus (well, duh, look where we are)
4. Non-smoker
5. Loves animals (especially dogs)
6. Independent/financially secure
7. Enjoys movies and music of all kinds (if she dislikes Rap and Country that's all the better).
8. Patient, kind-hearted
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#82 Apr 05 2008 at 1:03 PM Rating: Good
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Nexa wrote:
Atomicflea wrote:
Nexa wrote:
Perhaps so, but severely lacking in steak.
Also: bewbs.


I bet if most men had the choice between a flat chested woman and steak or a big rack and no steak for the rest of their lives...bewbs would suddenly be less significant.

Moral: It's the *** that counts.

Nexa


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#83 Apr 05 2008 at 1:46 PM Rating: Excellent
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#84 Apr 05 2008 at 2:31 PM Rating: Decent
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I hate to break it to you, but even the best damn relationship takes a lot of work. If you ever get into the skimming mode, where you just let things go by without much effort in communication, compromise, and sometimes an out and out screaming match, you deal with it later in the long run, and it's not pretty. If you're lucky, you realize this before it's too late. But never fall iunto that fantasy that the perfect relationship works on its own. It's a myth and a dangerous one to believe in.
Unless we are talking about a different kind of work(And i don't think we are), i have to totally disagree.

I've been with my wife for 8 years, married to her for 4 and i've never "worked" at our relationship, it just is, we don't fight, we always consult about everything without thinking about it, we don't have to talk through our problems with each other because frankly we don't have problems with each other, if we did we wouldn't have got married.

I'm with Kachi, i don't want my marriage to be work, i want it to be enjoyable, I want my partner to be the solution to my problems or support me when she can't solve them.

If your relationship is hard work, maybe you should be with someone who is more suited to you, or maybe you are too much hard work and you should relax more about thing that really don't matter. (Thats a general comment btw not directed at you DSD.)
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I bet if most men had the choice between a flat chested woman and steak or a big rack and no steak for the rest of their lives...bewbs would suddenly be less significant.
I prefer chicken anyway.



Edited, Apr 5th 2008 6:34pm by tarv
#85 Apr 05 2008 at 2:42 PM Rating: Excellent
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Baron von tarv wrote:
I prefer chicken anyway.
Breasts or thighs? Smiley: sly
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#86 Apr 05 2008 at 2:58 PM Rating: Good
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1) Female from birth. No exceptions.

2) Has to have a solid personality match with me. I could care less how she looks if she doesn't have the personality.

Dealbreaker

1) Cheating. Had that happen to me, will never let myself go through that hell again.

2) Won't let me keep something of a social life.
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#87 Apr 05 2008 at 2:59 PM Rating: Decent
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Breasts or thighs?
Fillets would be fine.
#88 Apr 05 2008 at 3:05 PM Rating: Good
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I think we are looking at this differently Tarv, and either way that's fine. But when you have two people and put them together, everything will not be perfectly harmonious immedietly. It's called communication and compromise that will make an amazing relationship even greater. And you have to be willing to do those things, not just in the beginning of said relationship, but always. I've watched a lot of relationships flounder, due to two partners unwilling to compromise even the smallest bit on issues, or stop communicating, thinking that the other must know them so well, they have to be mind readers. And of course the other partner is not.

You're correct in that a great relationship should feel easy and thats true. But at the same time, it's delusional to think any great relationship will stay perfect on it's own, after the "honey moon" period is over. Each partner in any relationship, whether conciously or unconciously knowing, must give a little, listen well, and willingly openly talk about anything, even if it's not always something you want to hear in order to keep a great relationship growing.

Like any marriage, Sick and I have our ups and downs. But we work together during those down times, really open up, communicate, and compromise. We work together as a team. Those down times are few and far between. But I would be a liar if I said our marriage was storybook perfect, as would anyone. We work with each other to make it as amazing as it is.
#89 Apr 05 2008 at 3:46 PM Rating: Decent
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Well true, but I don't think anyone past puberty actually believes in a storybook relationship.

You notice in those fairy tales, they never actually show what happens after the wedding. "Happily ever after" is code for, "nothing special to see here."
#90 Apr 05 2008 at 3:59 PM Rating: Decent
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DSD wrote:
Intelligent, well written stuff...
I agree with everything you wrote, completely and without exception.

We i think are just differing on what the term "work" is rather than what you should be doing as a matter of course.

My definition of working hard at a relationship is is constantly going out of your way to do things that are not natural or necessarily enjoyable, just to stay together, which is what Kachi ment aswell.

What you wrote is what I would call being in a relationship.

But i'm glad we both agree marriage is a partnership in more than just words.

#91 Apr 05 2008 at 5:44 PM Rating: Good
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I'm just so damaged in trusting someone that the idea of a relationship truly exhausts me. It would have to take someone amazing to help me "heal" (for lack of a better word) my trust issues. I do put myself out there for casual dating so I'm not falling into being a complete hermit.


There are a few major things in this, I feel. All tied together naturally... but i feel like dissecting them.

-Trusting someone again... After truly realizing how HARD one can allow oneself to be deceived.. how much at the mercy of denial one can be...It does make it quite a task to not write-off ANYTHING that a person says to you.. or at least now have an extra layer in your mind that totally and secretly doesn't believe anything that a person says to you.

-Then there is the notion of "letting someone in" or "opening yourself up" which comes to seem a completely ludicrous idea. After going through a process either arduously because if took while for you to finally be able to do it.... or trustingly and easily; when you, for whatever reason, feel such a closeness to a person an instantly let them to everything about you and think that you fit together like a lost puzzle piece...
Adds substance to that illusion called vulnerability.. and you come to realize that when you choose not to believe that you are vulnerable than you make it come into being.

-Doing it ALL OVER AGAIN with someone else... Do you tell the same stories? The same jokes? When you take them to meet your family will they just frown and shake their heads after you leave and say "there he goes again.."? There is only a finite amount of things on ones life that one can learn to associate with an emotion...or with love.. what happens when those are used up? When all of those sappy movies.. and cheesy eating establishments... the fruitless little gifts.. the spontaneous trips to nowhere... the makeshift dance/sex/drink/hangout/or "just talk about life" sessions... how many times can one replay the same things... or even try to improvise so as not to one's self seem repetitive or locked in some cycle.... what is that limit before one decides that one is truly at the mercy of Blind Trust?


God I'm fucking depressed now.
/emo

I guess that's what whores and crowbars are for.

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#92 Apr 05 2008 at 5:48 PM Rating: Decent
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God I'm ******* depressed now.
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You could just say "one bad apple doesn't mean you should cut down the tree"

Allowing someone who ruined your life to continue to ruin your life after you have removed them is self defeating.

Get back on the horse ohh spiritual one and for gods sake get laid! Faat and loose for 12 months and you'll have rebuilt all the required mental barriers.
#93 Apr 05 2008 at 6:00 PM Rating: Decent
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Kelvyquayo the Irrelevant wrote:
smoggy wrote:
I'm just so damaged in trusting someone that the idea of a relationship truly exhausts me. It would have to take someone amazing to help me "heal" (for lack of a better word) my trust issues. I do put myself out there for casual dating so I'm not falling into being a complete hermit.


There are a few major things in this, I feel. All tied together naturally... but i feel like dissecting them.

-Trusting someone again... After truly realizing how HARD one can allow oneself to be deceived.. how much at the mercy of denial one can be...It does make it quite a task to not write-off ANYTHING that a person says to you.. or at least now have an extra layer in your mind that totally and secretly doesn't believe anything that a person says to you.

-Then there is the notion of "letting someone in" or "opening yourself up" which comes to seem a completely ludicrous idea. After going through a process either arduously because if took while for you to finally be able to do it.... or trustingly and easily; when you, for whatever reason, feel such a closeness to a person an instantly let them to everything about you and think that you fit together like a lost puzzle piece...
Adds substance to that illusion called vulnerability.. and you come to realize that when you choose not to believe that you are vulnerable than you make it come into being.

-Doing it ALL OVER AGAIN with someone else... Do you tell the same stories? The same jokes? When you take them to meet your family will they just frown and shake their heads after you leave and say "there he goes again.."? There is only a finite amount of things on ones life that one can learn to associate with an emotion...or with love.. what happens when those are used up? When all of those sappy movies.. and cheesy eating establishments... the fruitless little gifts.. the spontaneous trips to nowhere... the makeshift dance/sex/drink/hangout/or "just talk about life" sessions... how many times can one replay the same things... or even try to improvise so as not to one's self seem repetitive or locked in some cycle.... what is that limit before one decides that one is truly at the mercy of Blind Trust?


God I'm fucking depressed now.
/emo

I guess that's what whores and crowbars are for.



I'm with you 100% Kelvy and all I can say is you gotta try. Also: Pity poor Smash. Smiley: wink

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#94 Apr 05 2008 at 6:03 PM Rating: Good
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Allowing someone who ruined your life to continue to ruin your life after you have removed them is self defeating.


I think it's more that I would think that I ruined my own life by allowing it to happen and choosing to be so blind.
But no.. I really DO NOT feel that my life is ruined.
and I couldn't really be so depressed at the volume that this ska is blaring in my ear.
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Get back on the horse ohh spiritual one and for gods sake get laid!


I've had several opportunities.. but I'm way too much of a cynic..
and one problem is... when you in a relationship with a psychopath.. the sex is about the best that carnal pleasure can be... so you really become doubtful whether or not you are ruined for any kind of average sex and be forever disappointed.. It's a pathetic predicament really.
I guess that's why people can eventually degenerate into a state where only stuff like bondage and other whatever weird **** that there is turns them on. I wonder I that is the path that I'm onSmiley: laugh


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Fast and loose for 12 months and you'll have rebuilt all the required mental barriers.


I don't know that I ever really had the barriers. If I would see a person and come to know them in the usual way and decide that they are for me. I don't often go "hunting". If I do meet a person and sex happens to happen then so be it... but I really will not think a thing of it. I am quite capable of getting in completely sexual relationships (regardless of the emotions of the other person) but I seldom allow these to last long because I scavenge enough decency out of myself to break it off and try to not let it get so far for the sake of the other person falling harder when I feel nothing.
The thing with me with those relationships is that I entirely disassociate them from any kind of true committed emotional state. I used to think that I couldn't do that.. but I do have a division in my mind of those who I would only like to have sex with.. and those where I would be attached to; but I DON'T think that this is a matter of CHOICE.
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#95 Apr 05 2008 at 6:09 PM Rating: Good
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and one problem is... when you in a relationship with a psychopath.. the sex is about the best that carnal pleasure can be... so you really become doubtful whether or not you are ruined for any kind of average sex and be forever disappointed.. It's a pathetic predicament really.


this should never deterr you. If you find a person you mesh with, you can teach her. And sometimes teaching/learning from one another is half the fun Smiley: sly
#96 Apr 06 2008 at 1:04 AM Rating: Decent
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Between 2 and 4 years younger than me(I'm 20)

You won't date someone your own age?

And at age 20, you don't find 16-year-old girls insufferable?




I didn't say I wouldn't date someone my own age. Hell I'm dating someone a little older than me right now and have been for two years and I'll hopefully spend the rest of my life with her. I made my list based on what I'd be looking for if I was single now. I've found that aside from the woman I'm dating now, girls my own age tend to be insufferable.
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#97 Apr 06 2008 at 1:10 AM Rating: Good
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I've found that aside from the woman I'm dating now, girls my own age tend to be insufferable.


From what I remember of young men when I was 20, I found most of the ones my own age pretty insufferable too, so that feeling is probably mutual! Smiley: laugh
#98 Apr 06 2008 at 1:15 AM Rating: Excellent
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I didn't say I wouldn't date someone my own age. Hell I'm dating someone a little older than me right now and have been for two years and I'll hopefully spend the rest of my life with her. I made my list based on what I'd be looking for if I was single now. I've found that aside from the woman I'm dating now, girls my own age tend to be insufferable.

But younger would be better? Why not older if you like an older woman now?

You also apparently don't understand the concept of "minimum requirements."

#99 Apr 06 2008 at 2:21 AM Rating: Decent
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But younger would be better? Why not older if you like an older woman now?

You also apparently don't understand the concept of "minimum requirements."



Nexa wrote:
Oh, and I think it's better to reflect on this without thinking of your current partner.


So yeah, I just listed the minimum requirements for if I happened to be single. My current relationship didn't weigh into that much, though, after thinking about it, she has all those qualities except for the being younger than me.

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#100 Apr 06 2008 at 4:33 AM Rating: Decent
Minimum Requirements:

Female, physical attractiveness(nice legs are a must), conversational, not high maintenance, compatible, independent, my height or shorter (however, ex-wife was taller), no druggies, self-motivated, and goal oriented. Oh, and they need to be able to take a joke. Liars, cheaters, and thieves is a deal breaker. Not real keen on women that already have children.


Ideal:
Loves animals, mechanical capabilities, into video games, non-religious or atheist, willing to try just about everything once, spontaneous, and perky demeanor. By that, perky to the point where it makes me giggle.
#101 Apr 06 2008 at 5:53 AM Rating: Decent
Minimum: Must have a carefully compiled list of their top 100 albums.

Ideal: A top 300 list of their favourite albums, preferably with comments for the top 100. A matching songs list is a dealbreaker.
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