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#27 Apr 04 2008 at 12:23 PM Rating: Decent
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Well, 1. I guess I take "financially secure" to mean something different than having money. I've always taken that term to mean someone who is financially responsible and not counting on a partner to care for them financially


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#28 Apr 04 2008 at 12:24 PM Rating: Decent
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Well, 1. I guess I take "financially secure" to mean something different than having money. I've always taken that term to mean someone who is financially responsible and not counting on a partner to care for them financially


I think you've discovered a gender bias, sweetie!


That's really neat, actually.

Ok, well to me anyway.

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#29 Apr 04 2008 at 12:24 PM Rating: Decent
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Huh, different perspective. I read that as "not looking to leech off of me".


Really? I take "financially secure" to mean "doesn't ever have to work again" maybe that's just me, though.


Well, that would certainly qualify. So would "not obsessive about his money", at least in some sense.

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#30 Apr 04 2008 at 12:28 PM Rating: Decent
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Well, that would certainly qualify. So would "not obsessive about his money", at least in some sense.


Let's be honest, though, we're constantly bombarded with the idea that wealth is the most important quality for a man to have to attract a woman, and that beauty/sex appeal is the most important quality for a woman to attract a man. You can't be too surprised to find men leary of the idea that women want them to be "financially secure" any more than women are tired of hearing from men how they have to be physically attractive no matter how delicately it's worded.




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#31 Apr 04 2008 at 12:29 PM Rating: Excellent
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I think one of my minimum requirements would be that if she made a list like this one, she wouldn't include things like "financially secure". I know it makes me sound naive and corny, but I'm really not interested in anyone who'd be attracted to my wallet. I'm not really into anyone who would be quite so calculating when considering whether or not to be with someone.


Huh, different perspective. I read that as "not looking to leech off of me".


Me too. I guess if I were phrasing what he was talking about, it would be "independantly wealthy" haha.

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When she says "financially secure", I hear, "capable of supporting me".

Honestly, I can understand the pragmatic reasons for including the financial qualifier in a wishlist, but it still seems petty and materialistic to me. I could easily see myself being with a starving artist, for instance, and it would be more important to me that her work fulfilled her rather than made us economically equal.

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#32 Apr 04 2008 at 12:34 PM Rating: Decent
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I could easily see myself being with a starving artist, for instance, and it would be more important to me that her work fulfilled her rather than made us economically equal.


Not me, I'm totally going for a sugar momma.

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#33 Apr 04 2008 at 12:35 PM Rating: Decent
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When she says "financially secure", I hear, "capable of supporting me".



I think that's super interesting, really. It would appear that women see it as "he's not a bum that expects me to support him" and men see it as "she's a bum who wants me to support her" hahaha.

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#34 Apr 04 2008 at 1:29 PM Rating: Decent
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Eh, I'll bite. My standards aren't so low.

Minimum: Intelligent, attractive but not vain (not a big fan of the tanning, hair bleaching, boob-job having kind of woman), very loving and forgiving, healthy (exercises, eats decently, no smoking/drugs except the rare pot/alcohol). Also more or less a requirement that they not be a theist, with few exceptions. Parenting philosophies have to match up if we'll be having children or if they already have them. Oh, and a job. A real one where they actually provide a valuable service to the community, or at least working in that direction. They're family and friends have to not be ******* crazy if they actually expect me to be involved with them on a regular basis. Has to at least tolerate the handful of people in this world that I actually like (mostly close family).

Anything less than that, I'll die alone thank you very much.

I can't distinguish between my minimum and what my expectations are.

Additional wants: A bit nerdy, playing video games/watching anime are both plusses. Someone who can both dish out and tolerate a dynamic contrast of goofiness and stoicism. I can go either way in a heartbeat. Serious convictions about morality and social justice, and a willingness to act on them. If they can put up a good fight (physically-- like as a sparring partner), major points. Brilliant is much preferred to simply being intelligent. The more similar activities we enjoy the better, but I'm a bit of a homebody and I'd prefer someone who isn't constantly dragging me places or needs a lot of stimulation from me. Someone who goes to dance/nightclubs/bars will have to go without me. Can't stand em. Ideally no kids, and any friends or family that they're in close contact with I get along with.

Really want someone who shares a similar philosophical schema as myself, but I'd settle for someone who could even appreciate it.

Unfortunately attractive women are usually dumb or taken, nevermind the other stuff.
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#38 Apr 04 2008 at 2:20 PM Rating: Excellent
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I've dropped all of my preconceived expectations being that women are aliens and usually not to be trusted. Most of the time people can catch on to what you are looking for and what you want to see and hear and use that to their advantage of getting you hooked in the first place... and then once they do a complete 360 you cannot come to grips with the fact that you have been utterly fooled so you go on thinking about what it is that you did wrong to make this person change when really it was them who were deceiving you in the first place.

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#39 Apr 04 2008 at 2:24 PM Rating: Decent
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Kelvyquayo the Irrelevant wrote:
I've dropped all of my preconceived expectations being that women are aliens and usually not to be trusted. Most of the time people can catch on to what you are looking for and what you want to see and hear and use that to their advantage of getting you hooked in the first place... and then once they do a complete 360 you cannot come to grips with the fact that you have been utterly fooled so you go on thinking about what it is that you did wrong to make this person change when really it was them who were deceiving you in the first place.

no, I'm not fucking bitter about anything


I heart you.

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#40 Apr 04 2008 at 2:30 PM Rating: Good
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#41 Apr 04 2008 at 2:38 PM Rating: Excellent
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Kelvyquayo the Irrelevant wrote:
I've dropped all of my preconceived expectations being that women are aliens and usually not to be trusted. Most of the time people can catch on to what you are looking for and what you want to see and hear and use that to their advantage of getting you hooked in the first place... and then once they do a complete 360 you cannot come to grips with the fact that you have been utterly fooled so you go on thinking about what it is that you did wrong to make this person change when really it was them who were deceiving you in the first place.

no, I'm not fucking bitter about anything

I am seeing that, only in reverse, with men. Wine and dine you, tell you what they think you want to hear, and then when they have you, the things that attracted you to begin with are gone, they ignore or cheat, or both, oh hell I could go on and on and on...
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Kelvyquayo the Irrelevant wrote:
I've dropped all of my preconceived expectations being that women are aliens and usually not to be trusted. Most of the time people can catch on to what you are looking for and what you want to see and hear and use that to their advantage of getting you hooked in the first place... and then once they do a complete 360 you cannot come to grips with the fact that you have been utterly fooled so you go on thinking about what it is that you did wrong to make this person change when really it was them who were deceiving you in the first place.

no, I'm not fucking bitter about anything

I am seeing that, only in reverse, with men. Wine and dine you, tell you what they think you want to hear, and then when they have you, the things that attracted you to begin with are gone, they ignore or cheat, or both, oh hell I could go on and on and on...


I am so calling you on the way home. I would say go eat some ice cream, but I think dairy's still off your list right?
#43 Apr 04 2008 at 2:51 PM Rating: Excellent
Mistress Darqflame wrote:

I am seeing that, only in reverse, with men. Wine and dine you, tell you what they think you want to hear, and then when they have you, the things that attracted you to begin with are gone, they ignore or cheat, or both, oh hell I could go on and on and on...


I see it utterly reversed. I find women who I'm totally up front with, and they claim to be really attracted to even the anti-social and destructive elements of me, and then a couple months down the road they're trying to change me. Well I won't mellow out, man. I'm not going to stop drinking, smoking, swearing or choking you.
#44 Apr 04 2008 at 2:59 PM Rating: Decent
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Samira wrote:
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I think one of my minimum requirements would be that if she made a list like this one, she wouldn't include things like "financially secure". I know it makes me sound naive and corny, but I'm really not interested in anyone who'd be attracted to my wallet. I'm not really into anyone who would be quite so calculating when considering whether or not to be with someone.


Huh, different perspective. I read that as "not looking to leech off of me".


Samira gets it.

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I have decided if you drink heavily or smoke, you are off the list. Don't like kids, sorry. I have lowered my expectations before and have decided to raise them back up again. I am going to be very picky this time.

I always had the slight jealous GF thing going on, hell I dated a stripper, a race car driver and a musician, at different times you pervs! And the girl swarms were awful. However when I married my last hubby I decided, I would try to be the good wife, and wish him well when he went hunting, not smother or pressure him and I still got cheated on.

I have also supported more than one man, and I refuse to EVER to that again. I have had to start over, from nothing several times. I got where I am on my own, without the aid of a man. I can pleasure myself and if I can't repair it around the house, by God I can pay to have someone come in and do that for me.

It's nice, I can game all night long if I so desire, I can drive as fast as I want. I can spend $$ on computers, games, cars or kids at will. If I don't feel like cooking, it's not a big deal. And if I really need to get laid, I can go out, get some strange, come home and never have to talk to them again. Sweet life. Smiley: grin
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#46 Apr 04 2008 at 3:03 PM Rating: Good
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Mistress Darqflame wrote:
I have decided if you drink heavily or smoke, you are off the list. Don't like kids, sorry. I have lowered my expectations before and have decided to raise them back up again. I am going to be very picky this time.

I always had the slight jealous GF thing going on, hell I dated a stripper, a race car driver and a musician, at different times you pervs! And the girl swarms were awful. However when I married my last hubby I decided, I would try to be the good wife, and wish him well when he went hunting, not smother or pressure him and I still got cheated on.

I have also supported more than one man, and I refuse to EVER to that again. I have had to start over, from nothing several times. I got where I am on my own, without the aid of a man. I can pleasure myself and if I can't repair it around the house, by God I can pay to have someone come in and do that for me.

It's nice, I can game all night long if I so desire, I can drive as fast as I want. I can spend $$ on computers, games, cars or kids at will. If I don't feel like cooking, it's not a big deal. And if I really need to get laid, I can go out, get some strange, come home and never have to talk to them again. Sweet life. Smiley: grin


hmmm, you present an interesting argument. I would like to sign up for your newsletter.

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#48 Apr 04 2008 at 3:31 PM Rating: Excellent
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Hmm, ok, let's see.

Minimum requirements: Female, Someone with a nice personality and a good sense of humor (and a suprisingly high tolerance for really bad puns). Mean people, even if hot, suck and I don't want to be involved with that. Definitly a non smoker due to the allergies if nothing else. Someone not adverse to dating someone somewhat on the large side. I'd prefer someone who either likes, or doesn't mind computers in quantity. I'd like to have kids someday, so someone who was interested in that would be good. She would have to be intelligent too.

As far as likes and dislikes, political viewpoints, etc. I have no real preference, but I'd think that someone who agreed with me on everything would get rather boring.

Oh, she has to have a sizeable forum postcount too. Definitly that.
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#49 Apr 04 2008 at 6:13 PM Rating: Good
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Min: able to hold an intelligent conversation, has an open mind, is not in your face religious, can hold down a decent job, sense of humor is a must. Must enjoy walking outdoors.

Wants: willing to try new things at least once, high sex drive to match my own, willing to dance provacatively with me at a club with minimal embarassment,enjoys fine dining, wine, tappas, coffee, whirlwind weekend trips. Doesnt have to be far or expensive, just fun. Likes a lot of different kinds of music. Loves to swim or play on the beach.
#50 Apr 04 2008 at 7:07 PM Rating: Good
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They're back where they started, and what's the problem?

Sorry, that just bugs me. <3 Kelvy.
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