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#52 Apr 03 2008 at 1:15 PM Rating: Good
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This is where I trounce you soundly for only mentioning males as being "clever".


Indeed, I meant "posters and posteresses", of course Smiley: wink
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#53 Apr 03 2008 at 1:21 PM Rating: Excellent
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You're not going to wink your way out of this one, mister.

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#54 Apr 03 2008 at 1:22 PM Rating: Good
The clown has taught me well.
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#55 Apr 03 2008 at 2:46 PM Rating: Decent
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Actually he's apparently a great judge, I just wanted an excuse to post a story about a drunk driving cross dressing judge from Massachusetts who's still working to see if Gbaji's head would explode.


Yes. Because my posting history shows a clear pattern of demanding political decisions be made based on what someone wears... NOT!


The DUI is an issue, but what he was wearing at the time, while certainly great media fodder, has zero bearing on his qualifications to sit the bench.


And for the record, I also support the idea of appointments, not elections. And preferably ones for either life or very long terms, and with significant difficulty removing them (like, unless he's committed a crime that requires that he go to prison, he should retain his job).


Also, I'm incredibly leery of the idea that appointments are only ok "as long as they aren't political". The problem is that this kind of restriction only gets applied to political appointments you don't like. If a judge is appointed who holds views you agree with, you'll think of him as a good judge. If a judge is appointed who holds views you disagree with, you'll assume he's been appointed for political reasons.


They're political appointments. Any attempt to try to take the politics out of the process is kinda doomed to failure (and subject to massive bias and likely an increase in the political nature of appointments).
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#56 Apr 03 2008 at 2:57 PM Rating: Decent
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They're political appointments. Any attempt to try to take the politics out of the process is kinda doomed to failure (and subject to massive bias and likely an increase in the political nature of appointments).
Us Brits have managed to remove political appointments quite sucsessfully by making the appointment process a joint party commitee.
#57 Apr 03 2008 at 3:05 PM Rating: Decent
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They're political appointments. Any attempt to try to take the politics out of the process is kinda doomed to failure (and subject to massive bias and likely an increase in the political nature of appointments).
Us Brits have managed to remove political appointments quite sucsessfully by making the appointment process a joint party commitee.


You don't actually believe that eliminates the political nature of the appointments, do you? It just pushes the political aspect back to who's got what representation on the committee, and pushes the visibility of the political aspects of the appointments away from the public eye and into the backrooms of the government.
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#58 Apr 03 2008 at 3:08 PM Rating: Decent
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You don't actually believe that eliminates the political nature of the appointments, do you?


To be fair, it's much more of a class thing over there than a party thing. I genuinely believe there's less political motivation, but also believe that some guy born to a shoemaker in Essex isn't ever going to make the grade.

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#59 Apr 03 2008 at 3:10 PM Rating: Decent
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You don't actually believe that eliminates the political nature of the appointments, do you? It just pushes the political aspect back to who's got what representation on the committee, and pushes the visibility of the political aspects of the appointments away from the public eye and into the backrooms of the government
Everyone got representation on the commitee dumbass thats why its called cross party.
#60 Apr 03 2008 at 3:48 PM Rating: Good
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a shoemaker in Essex


The technical term nowadays is "unemployed".
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#61 Apr 03 2008 at 4:50 PM Rating: Decent
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You don't actually believe that eliminates the political nature of the appointments, do you? It just pushes the political aspect back to who's got what representation on the committee, and pushes the visibility of the political aspects of the appointments away from the public eye and into the backrooms of the government
Everyone got representation on the commitee dumbass thats why its called cross party.


Presumably in proportion to their seats?


Like I said. Political.
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#62 Apr 03 2008 at 4:54 PM Rating: Decent
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The technical term nowadays is "unemployed".


I think you mean "dentist"

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#63 Apr 03 2008 at 6:43 PM Rating: Decent
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Tuesday just happened to be a slew of local and state elections here in Dane county. One of the positions up for grabs was a spot on the state supreme court. It was a very messy race. Something in the neighborhood of five mil spent on attack ads by outside interest groups. The trend in the last two races appears to be whoever spends more and effectively smears the competition wins the gold.

AKA I'm for life or fixed term appointments.
#64 Apr 03 2008 at 8:00 PM Rating: Good
I am in favor of judges being appointed for life.

I hate to echo Tocqueville here, but he makes a solid point about judges being appointed for life. With them holding their jobs guaranteed until they either die or retire, it gives them more incentive to stay a-political and makes it so that the judiciary does not have to keep an eye on the electorate and their desires.

Instead of doing what is the passion of the moment, or feeling like they must do what the majority of the nation wants them to do, the judiciary can make the best decision for the country as a whole when it comes to constitutionality.

In short, it is a strong check against the rise of tyranny of the majority.
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