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#1 Mar 28 2008 at 1:45 AM Rating: Good
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I take it the USA would like Afghanistan to be able to stand on it's own two feet sooner rather than later? Smiley: oyvey

Striangely, I'm against private industry being allowed anywhere near national defense. There are some places where I think the lowest bidder has no place to be.


The Age wrote:
SINCE 2006, when the insurgency in Afghanistan sharply intensified, the Afghan Government has been dependent on American military support in the war against al-Qaeda and the Taliban.

But to arm the Afghan forces the US has relied since early last year on a fledgling company led by a 22-year-old man and whose vice-president is a licensed masseur.

With the award last January of a contract worth as much as $US300 million ($327 million), the company, AEY Inc, which operates out of an unmarked office in Miami Beach, became the main supplier of munitions to Afghanistan's army and police.

Since then, according to an examination by The New York Times and interviews with US and Afghan officials, the company has provided ammunition that is more than 40 years old and in decomposing packaging.

Much of it comes from the stockpiles of the old Communist bloc, including equipment that the US State Department and NATO have determined to be unreliable and obsolete.

Moreover, huge quantities of cartridges were made in China, making their procurement a possible violation of US law.

The company president, Efraim Diveroli, was secretly recorded suggesting corruption in his company's purchase of more than 100 million aging ammunition rounds in Albania.

This week the army suspended the company from any future federal contracts. Mr Diveroli says he is unaware of the action.

But problems with the ammunition were evident last year in such places as Nawa, Afghanistan, an outpost near the Pakistani border, where an Afghan lieutenant-colonel checked some rifle cartridges.

The cardboard boxes had split open, revealing ammunition manufactured in China in 1966. "This is what they give us for the fighting," said the colonel, Amanuddin, who like many Afghans has only one name. "It makes us worried because too much of it is junk." [What a polite understatement!]

An examination of AEY's background suggests that army contracting officials, under pressure to arm Afghan troops, allowed an immature company to act as supplier, and did so with minimal vetting.

In an interview late last year, Mr Diveroli denied any wrongdoing. "I know that my company does everything 100% on the up-and-up, and that's all I'm concerned about," he said.

Neither Mr Diveroli nor his company can bid on any further federal work for the time being.

In Afghanistan, US munitions officers are examining all the small-arms ammunition AEY has shipped.

The final shipment, which arrived in wooden crates, included loose and corroded cartridges, according to three officers.

#2 Mar 28 2008 at 3:06 AM Rating: Excellent
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So, Chinese toymakers make munitions as well?

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#3 Mar 28 2008 at 3:08 AM Rating: Excellent
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This will provide an excellent plot for a future Hanks film.
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So, Chinese toymakers make munitions as well?

Maintenant que de la qualité!

Quick, buy it up before it's all scrapped! Cheap drugs, mmmmmmmmmm.
#5 Mar 28 2008 at 3:17 AM Rating: Excellent
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I want a scratch and sniff AK-47, with Hello Kitty stickers on it.

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#6 Mar 28 2008 at 3:20 AM Rating: Good
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The cardboard boxes had split open, revealing ammunition manufactured in China in 1966.


So, the Afghans on "our" side have weapons made by former Commmunist states like China and Russia, while the Talibans we're fighting have the weapons the West sold them while they fighting off the USSR.

Funny old world.
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AEY Inc


Mossad front, nothing will come of this, it's just money laundering.
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Aripyanfar wrote:
The cardboard boxes had split open, revealing ammunition manufactured in China in 1966.


So, the Afghans on "our" side have weapons made by former Commmunist states like China and Russia, while the Talibans we're fighting have the weapons the West sold them while they fighting off the USSR.

Funny old world.
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Reminds me, I actually have this odd hunger or craving to reread Catch-22. Stunning imagery.
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Reminds me, I actually have this odd hunger or craving to reread Catch-22.


Possibly the most over-rated book of the twentieth century. Oh wait, Gone with the Wind. Possibly the second most over-rated book of the twentieth century.

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don't forget atlas shrugged and war and peace.
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#11 Mar 28 2008 at 6:31 AM Rating: Good
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Dread Lörd Kaolian wrote:
don't forget atlas shrugged and war and peace.
Actually quite like War and Peace. It has this central theory (about the additive effect of individual impulses and decisions) that is accidentally a really good illustration why democracy, for all it's faults and slowness, works quite well in the end.
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don't forget atlas shrugged


That's a damn good point, right there.

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I'll speak up for War and Peace as well. It's bloated, but it's a pretty good read anyway. Kinda like a Russian Thomas Wolfe novel.

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Possibly the most over-rated book of the twentieth century. Oh wait, Gone with the Wind. Possibly the second most over-rated book of the twentieth century.


I've always thought Catcher in the Rye was the winner in that category.
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I've always thought Catcher in the Rye was the winner in that category.



This one?


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I've always thought Catcher in the Rye was the winner in that category.



This one?


An hysterical OOT in-joke.




Oh lulz.
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