What the media did not show about WrightFollow

If Obama is going to be critiszised for his choice of church, then its time for McCain to be critiszied for his preferred mates in the God-bothering squad too.
says Pastor John Hagee.


He's one of those freaks who believes thatthe Rapture is something worth bombing the middle-east to smithereens for.

Numbered amongst his 'friends and supporters' are McCain, GW (everything is going just great in Eyrak)Bush And Joe Liebermann, who thinks he's a'man of God'.

McCain said he is honored by the Pastors support.

This bloke reckons that one of the things that will bring on the Rapture is a full on conflagration in the ME, and isn't averse to a bit of bombing and such by the powers of good (That would be USA and Israel) to hurry it along.

Now personally I don't believe that politics and religeon have any right being associated, especially by the future leader of the military machine that is the USA. But if someone is going to be in charge, I wouldn't want an' old fart like McCain who has friends who think that war is good if it gets Jesus back to earth nice and quick.

At least Obamas pastor recognises a problem when he sees it and isn't afraid to bring it up.

mcCain, if he is taking this guy seriously is looking to get a gilded throne on Gods Right hand. That cant be a good thing for thoss eof us left behind.....

Not to be obvious, but polls taken during the nomination process on what people will do in the general election are largely irrelevant. Doubly so when comparing candidates in a hotly contested nomination to one who's already "done" in terms of active nomination. News cycles on each candidate alone will warp any polling you do...

McCain did not attend his church for 20 years, though. You're comparing apples to oranges.

/shrug

My "wild guesses" are based on pretty normal human behavior models. Polls usually reflect the opinions of whomever took the poll, or whatever media coverage a given subject has been inundated with most recently. Media says that Wright's antics are "bad" and Obama's numbers go down. Media says that Obama's speech was wonderful, and his poll numbers go back up.

But people are pretty consistent. My "wild guesses" are based on the bulk of very questionable things about Obama, which largely have not been presented to the public in a consistent and pattern establishing way. Right now, that's mainly because he's running against Clinton for the Dem nomination, and Clinton herself has more to lose by pounding on the issue too much then she has to gain. She's trying to win over the very voters who are most likely to not be alarmed by Obama's pattern of behavior.


The general election will be an entirely different animal though. There, it wont be mostly just Liberal voters who need to be convinced, so the gloves will largely come off and these things, which are alarming to those in the middle and the right will be presented in a more pattern revealing manner then they have so far. You'll see constant talk about the consistency with which he shows bad judgment in a whole variety of areas. Wright is just one of many aspects of this. Any one of which is minor seeming, and has been presented so far individually (and so hasn't had much impact). When you start getting pundits on TV listing off all of them at once, it'll have a major impact.


To me, this is no more "wild" of a guess then guessing that if it's cloudy, more people might bring an umbrella to work then would otherwise. Politics is a game of numbers and all of these issues will cause a significant dent in Obama's once the nomination process is completed.



Sure. But those are poll numbers *today*, when he's running for the nomination. Those poll numbers don't yet reflect the whole story. Not even close.

I suppose if you specify whether or not it hurt him for the nomination, you'd be correct. It didn't hurt him much. But I believe it has hurt him if/when he gets to the general election, and will hurt him even more down the line as more scrutiny is applied to him.

Guess it just depends on what you're looking at right now...

I could fix that, but im not going to.

bottom line is, the repubs and clinton are trying to throw in the ugly black white race thing and tie it to obama. american politics.

the end.

doesnt amount to a hill of beans. the repubs are going to loose not because of some great dem candidate, but because the majority of people in this country, including a whole lot of repubs, are sick of the republicans and the way they have trashed the honor and integrity of this country on a global scale.

the ONLY chance the repubs have of winning the next election, Wright or no Wright, is for Iraq to declare they dont need us any more and allow an early preelection save face withdraw, and Osama to turn up at the end of a Marines rifle.

short of that, most people are finnished watching the repubs trash our constitution, trast our international reputation, trash our education system and trash basically every thing else they touched.

doesnt matter who wins the dem nomination. Obama, Clinton, or bill the Cat, the repubs are going down hard. just look at the numbers of people voting for the dems vs the repubs. look at the amount of money flowing in. look at the stagering numbers of repubs switching their party inn almost every state the dems campaign in.

Wright or no Wright. but do go on droaning aboout how someone in someones church said something. if thats the worst dirt that can be dug up on Obama, he is a shoe in.