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How many have you found supporting your argument Smash?

I'd say about 10000000 times as many as peer reviewed journal published studies you can cite. Actually, make that 100000000000000000000 times as many.

If we lived in a world where the number of internet sites supporting something was a measure of veracity, Jesus would currently be disbanding the Libertarian collective.

Well. Since there are so many, you should have no problems finding one and citing it, right?

Not at all.

As soon as you cite one to support your original lie, I'll be happy to cite five to refute it. Although, seeing as that can't possibly happen because you just lied randomly and hoped, I won't hold my breath for one.



Edited, Mar 12th 2008 9:43pm by Smasharoo

Any cite Smash. Any time now...

Any cite that does what now? Proves you wrong? Trivial. What would I gain though, you're wrong already. The consensus is that you're wrong. I know you're wrong. You're incapable of accepting that you're wrong. No matter what I cite, the situation will remain the same.

You, on the other hand, have the opportunity to change the minds of people about this, and yet, you don't?

WHY? Oh, right, because you can't, so you waste everyone's time attacking me. Whatever makes you happy, I guess. You're still wrong, and we all know you won't do anything to change that because you're not capable. Let's be honest, if it doesn't show up in the first page of Google, it doesn't exist for you.

Sad, but there you have it.

Then do it. Find a source that provides any sort of data showing that homeschooled kids scores on standardized test, or college entrance exams, or via any other empirical comparison methodology, are worse then those of public school students.


Any source will do Smash.

When I do, will you just post "Ok, I was wrong." ?

Because I have the page open Acrobat reader as we speak, and while it's an interesting paper, I still see no incentive to link it here.

Yes. And McCarthy had a "list" of confirmed communist spies in his hand...


Still waiting Smash.

I'm going to interject before I look at any sources.

Whatever studies you find are only going to show a very narrow advantage or disadvantage of home schooling. Unless you can find a study that takes a comprehensive look at success in the workplace, emotional stability, and social adaptability/morality as a result of homeschooling, it's going to be largely irrelevant to the primary areas of concern in the debate.

I disagree. The case against homeschooling (and for the draconian requirements designed to make it financially impossible for most parents) is that homeschooling amounts to some form of "abuse" of the children since they wont receive the same quality of education as they'd get in a public school (the presumed alternative in most cases).

In order to support that argument, you'd have to show three things:

1. That homeschooled kids were not receiving the same quality eduction as public school kids.

2. That the state has some need to ensure that they do.

3. That this need outweighs the inherent rights of parents to raise their own children.

Failure at any of these three points represents a failure of the case against homeschooling.

So far, we only got as far as point number one before finding a failure. I don't have to prove or disprove either of the others, but I'm quite sure that point three is another failure for the states case here as well...

Still haven't found one showing that homeschooled kids do worse then public school kids, have you?

Yup.

Dozens, actually. I'm shocked you're really this poor at research. When I say shocked, I mean not surprised at all.

I will have to admit I'm having trouble finding any credible anti home-schooling advocate sources other than posters saying:

That makes you bad at research.



The argument can never end.

That makes you bad at reason.


You're both right in your own respects.

That makes you functionally retarded.

If you're the product of the public school system, maybe Gbaji has a point.

Do you have any data sources on the numbers of homeschooled kids that get a GED, verus a HS diploma, and how many actually take the ACT or SAT?

Even if Smash is being an ***, that doesn't make it ok to say that Gbaji is right, even if you agree with him. That's just crazy talk.

Nexa

While it's shrunk slightly in recent years, the majority of homeschool educators still site "religious reasons" as a primary cause for keeping their kids home. The number of home school educators who have only a high school diploma is also on the rise (I'm not saying that these are related, just interesting points).

Nexa

When I said Gbaji was right, I meant about his assertion that Smash has nothing to back up his claims. Smash doesn't. This whole "I'm looking at it but I'm not gonna link it for you" sh'it is weak. And the rest of Smash's posts on the subject are just making me want to offer him a tampon and some Midol, regardless of whether or not he has a valid point to make (which I have yet to see, anyway.)