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#1 Mar 11 2008 at 11:28 AM Rating: Excellent

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It's reassuring that preaching abstinence is so widely promoted in the USA, and innocent teenagers' minds aren't corrupted by nasty atheist propaganda about Condoms!

BBC Online wrote:

STDs rife among US teenage girls

One in four teenage girls in the United States has a sexually-transmitted disease, a study has indicated.

The study, by the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), found an even higher prevalence of STDs among black girls.

Researchers analysed data from a nationally representative sample of 838 US girls aged 14 to 19.

A virus that causes cervical cancer - HPV - was the most common, followed by chlamydia, trichomoniasis and herpes.

The CDC says the study is the first in its kind to examine the prevalence of common sexually transmitted diseases among adolescent girls.

It found that nearly half of the African-American girls surveyed had at least one STD, while the rate was 20% among white and Mexican-American teenagers.

Human papillomavirus, or HPV, affected 18% of the girls surveyed, chlamydia 4%, trichomoniasis 2.5%, and herpes simplex virus 2%.

Anyone else find that depressing?

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#2 Mar 11 2008 at 11:35 AM Rating: Good

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Anyone else find that depressing?

I had a girlfriend from the US (Vermont I think) when I was about 20'ish. A friend who still lives in the UK says she eventually married a biker and now has 5 kids.

So....No. I would say more relieved than depressed.

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#3 Mar 11 2008 at 11:39 AM Rating: Decent

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I doubt it would be any different if you did the same study in toxteth, moss side or Brixton.

Ranging hormones tend to get in the way of brain activity.

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#4 Mar 11 2008 at 12:20 PM Rating: Excellent

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The irony here is that a simple vaccine that would help prevent the onset of cervical cancer in girls exposed to HPV has been cockblocked (not to put too fine a point on it) because "it would promote promiscuity".

Well, promiscuity, and there's a fine loaded word, is a fact of life. We should be offering kids protection as far as we're able.

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#5 Mar 11 2008 at 12:28 PM Rating: Good

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So the lesson is to bring condoms while trolling the mall?

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#6 Mar 11 2008 at 12:36 PM Rating: Decent

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Anyone else find that depressing?

Not particularly. Have you looked at the comparative UK statistics?

This study and the ensuing 10000 articles are advertisements for Gardisil, and nothing more. If you remove HPV from the list of STDs involved you get an infection rate of 7%. Hardly "rife" and hardly different from all the meta data of this type of survey in the last 60 years.

The actual rate of incidence of cancer among the HPV infected population is minuscule. Nothing generates free PR like children having sex though, so I imagine that this vaccine that lowers one's risk of cancer from .005% to .003% will make billions as it's continually flogged in the press to provide cover to titlate with stories of kids *******.

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#7 Mar 11 2008 at 12:47 PM Rating: Excellent

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The actual rate of incidence of cancer among the HPV infected population is minuscule.

It's true that the rate of cervical cancer isn't in the "EVERYBODY PANIC" range, but if 75% of the cases that do occur are easily prevented with a vaccine, why not use it?

So it's only 10,000 or so cases a year. That's 10,000 or so preventable cases per year.

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#8 Mar 11 2008 at 12:48 PM Rating: Excellent

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Smasharoo wrote:

If you remove HPV from the list of STDs involved you get an infection rate of 7%.

It was the underlying proxy for unprotected sex among teenagers that made me sad.

Can't be ***** looking for comparitives

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#9 Mar 11 2008 at 12:54 PM Rating: Decent

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Uhm, 50% of women over 25 have HPV don't they? 18% isn't that bad.

We have government sponsored TV advertisements up here for the HPV shot, not to mention condoms and such, as well as proper sex ed classes.

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#10 Mar 11 2008 at 12:57 PM Rating: Decent

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Can't be ***** looking for comparitives

It appears to be rising, 1 in 8 seems to be the ballpark figure.

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#11 Mar 11 2008 at 1:03 PM Rating: Good

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It's true that the rate of cervical cancer isn't in the "EVERYBODY PANIC" range, but if 75% of the cases that do occur are easily prevented with a vaccine, why not use it?

I'm not advocating not using it. I just think on a cost/benefit basis it's not one of the better uses of money spent for health care. It's a $400 per dose vaccine that treats a tiny risk that is being actively inflated in public perception by Merk expressly to profit before it goes generic and costs $12 a does or whatever.

I'm fine with increases preventive medicine, I'm not fine with forcing a large scale inoculation program that very marginally increases health at great cost.

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#12 Mar 11 2008 at 1:06 PM Rating: Good

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It was the underlying proxy for unprotected sex among teenagers that made me sad.

Teenagers are going to have unprotected sex, in all parts of the world, forever until there's a way to have protected sex that feels as good.

No amount of "education" is going convince Billy that a condom is a better idea than what feels good at the time.

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#13 Mar 11 2008 at 3:10 PM Rating: Good

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Another problem is that many teenagers don't think of oral sex as "sex", (much like Bill Clinton), have unprotected oral sex, and often catch some STD's that way.

In my clinic, we have a HIV/STD counselor that educates pretty much anyone who comes through here, but especially the substance abuse clients (for obvious reasons.) She always has some interesting tidbits and data results, and she just-so happens to be speaking for one of my groups tomorrow. I'll have to find out some more specifics on teens in my county and Florida, all which have a high prevalence of STD's compared to the rest of the country.

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#14 Mar 11 2008 at 4:44 PM Rating: Good

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So the lesson is to bring condoms while trolling the mall?

You'd still get HPV, even with condoms :)

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