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#1 Mar 06 2008 at 6:53 PM Rating: Default
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Seriously, I'm about sick and tired of fuCkers like this being allowed to live. Maybe I'm a bit more sensitive to this kind of thing because of the sh*t that happened to me as a child. I want nothing more than to be left in a room with this woman for 24hrs. She may not be dead at the end of that time but I can guaranDAMNtee you that there would not be much of her left. Just reading the judges comments on the video about the child waking up screaming after the ordeals is just heart wrenching and to know that her family is supporting this monster and "forgiving" her is going to cause some serious fuCking mental issues when she gets older. I really hope that they both die a very violent and painful death soon after joining their fellow inmates in prison.



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Edited, Mar 6th 2008 8:56pm by Katie
#2 Mar 06 2008 at 7:03 PM Rating: Good
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Why so much anger at her, and not at her husband, who actually perpetrated the crime?
#3 Mar 06 2008 at 7:19 PM Rating: Excellent
Come on Flea, she's just as guilty.

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Sikat never directly touched her niece, but was touching Hwang while he molested the girl, prosecutors said. She also helped to drug the girl, they said.


It was her own niece.
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#4 Mar 06 2008 at 7:30 PM Rating: Decent
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I'd be much more understanding of anger at her if the lady in question was not described as entirely filled with remorse for her actions. I don't see anything wrong with forgiveness if it is at least mutual.

Any truly justified opinion of this situation is not within our grasp to make, however. There are questions of the legitimacy of the newspaper's portrayal, the legitimacy of the repentance, and especially the degree of the molestations. The true feelings of that woman and child are not things which we can know, and I'd think the best thing to do is just hope that all of the parties involved can find peace with it.

blah blah blah, restorative justice, you get the idea

Edited, Mar 6th 2008 10:32pm by Pensive
#5 Mar 06 2008 at 7:39 PM Rating: Good
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Omegavegeta wrote:
Come on Flea, she's just as guilty.
No. Not even remotely. She's not lily-white, and perhaps not the brightest of bulbs, but to equate the two is not only an inaccuracy, but an oversimplification.
#6 Mar 06 2008 at 8:37 PM Rating: Decent


For me it makes it worse on her part. She was the girl's AUNT for crying out loud. This girl was supposed to be able to trust that family member and was met with the worst betrayal I can imagine. She helped, she enjoyed it and she participated in taking this girls trust and innocence. The girl was between a toddler. Don't get me wrong, I would kill him just as quick given the chance and probably be just as painful if not more so about it.

Coming from a childhood where this happened to me from a time I can't remember until I was in my teens, I have a lot of anger and hate for these kind of people. HATE HATE HATE these types. I don't care how many tears they shed on the stand or how many apologies the profess are heartfelt. FuCk them. Don't believe them when they say they've seen the errors in their ways because I can promise you it's not true. If they had the chance they'd do it again.

Also, the parents who allow this kind of thing to happen and then "forgive" the person who did it to their children are bastards. I don't think they realize just how much this poor girl is going to fight with this issue when she grows up. I love my parents but at the same time on the very opposite side of the coin I hate them for not doing something more about it.

The guy is a piece of **** who doesn't deserve the mercy of prison but the aunt, the woman, the family member who this girl was never ever supposed to be hurt by deserves a fate far worse than what she is getting.
#7 Mar 07 2008 at 3:50 AM Rating: Good
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The One and Only Katie wrote:
For me it makes it worse on her part.
That's because you're projecting your unresolved issues onto the situation, which is more complex than what you can grasp when you revert to your state of mind as a child and look at it through that viewpoint.

Again, I'm not saying she's guilt-free or that she shouldn't receive punishment, but focusing on her is shifting the blame from the true perpetrator.
#8 Mar 07 2008 at 8:28 AM Rating: Good
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And in the spirit of "What the hell is wrong with people?" who the f'uck sprays their kid with a power-wash hose for throwing a tantrum?
#9 Mar 07 2008 at 9:32 AM Rating: Excellent
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#10 Mar 07 2008 at 9:51 AM Rating: Decent
Bad, bad things happen in this world to children, every day. Generally, there are two schools of thought as to what government can do: punish the criminals or attempt to put in place institutions to identify the bad people and arrest them.

The former should work if criminals think rationally and believe they are going to get caught.

The latter makes people nervous. They think the government will take their kids if they, say, spank them. Parenting makes fools of us all, at least at certain moments, and the people who's kids never say funny things or act out in public scare me the most, by far. So it is really unnerving to think of someone looking over your shoulder.

Of course there is the school of thought that the government should simply not really do much of anything about it. Clearly the parents are responsible for their children, we all know this. Not so much help when the parents are the criminals. I'm sure someone will bring this argument forward with more zeal then I can.

On a happier note, if the guy goes to prison he may well not walk out alive.

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Coming from a childhood where this happened to me from a time I can't remember until I was in my teens, I have a lot of anger and hate for these kind of people.


I'm really, really sorry.
#11 Mar 07 2008 at 9:57 AM Rating: Excellent
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Atomicflea wrote:
The One and Only Katie wrote:
For me it makes it worse on her part.
That's because you're projecting your unresolved issues onto the situation, which is more complex than what you can grasp when you revert to your state of mind as a child and look at it through that viewpoint.


Exactly, and while I have a great deal of sympathy for your past experiences, it is your inability to approach the subject dispassionatly and rationally that makes me glad you're not involved in policy decisions. Smiley: smile

Many of us have had a wide variety of unhappy things happen to us in childhood, but that doesn't mean that every case that comes up in the news is about you, or your experiences, or even parallels them. This was not your perpetrator, this was a news brief where we only see part of the story.

I'm not excusing it, I'm just saying that I can't imagine that letting every bad thing that happens to a child somewhere be a rehash of your own personal tragedies is particularly helpful to your own healing, is it? I realize that I'm guilty of such things from time to time, it's hard to not let something trigger a painful memory if it seems in any way similar, but realize that these reactions are an emotional rather than logic based response.

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#12 Mar 07 2008 at 1:11 PM Rating: Decent
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Bad, bad things happen in this world to children, every day. Generally, there are two schools of thought as to what government can do: punish the criminals or attempt to put in place institutions to identify the bad people and arrest them.


Why not identify the bad people and (instead of arresting them for crimes that they have not yet performed) attempt to somehow satisfy their urges in a non-harmful way, or compromise on the meaning of being arrested? It seems quite silly to lock someone up for a potential crime, yet a far less invasive solution might involve monitoring and sponsored counseling. As it stands, both of those schools of thought completely fail to provide any incentive for the potential molester to get some help before they do something stupid.
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