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#1 Feb 07 2008 at 11:08 AM Rating: Excellent
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Rowan Williams is the lisping welsh ******** Archbishop of Canterbury and apparently baby Jebus's spokesperson here in Britainland.

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. . . the Archbishop of Canterbury's belief that some Sharia law in the UK seems "unavoidable".

Dr Rowan Williams said the UK had to "face up to the fact" some citizens do not relate to the British legal system.

He said adopting parts of Islamic Sharia law could help social cohesion.

For example, Muslims could choose to have marital disputes or financial matters dealt with in a Sharia court.


If he keeps peddling crap like that, I should be allowed to take part in his stoning Smiley: oyvey

Thankfully, everyone's lining up to call him an Mental, but nobody's yet called for the cUnt to be shipped out to Krapistan and boiled in his own Shit.
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#2 Feb 07 2008 at 11:13 AM Rating: Excellent
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Oh, dear. Oh, oh, dear.

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#3 Feb 07 2008 at 11:20 AM Rating: Good
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Having said that, he does have nice eyebrows.

Slightly devilish for an Archbishop, but nice nonetheless.
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#4 Feb 07 2008 at 11:23 AM Rating: Good
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Oh, dear. Oh, oh, dear.
I thought you were on vacation Sammy?
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Excellent. When they start stoning women for naming their kitten Mohammad, I can be told that I just don't understand British culture Smiley: laugh
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Nobby wrote:
Rowan Williams is the lisping welsh ******** Archbishop of Canterbury and apparently baby Jebus's spokesperson here in Britainland.

Today:
the stupid mumb-jumbo ranting **** wrote:


. . . the Archbishop of Canterbury's belief that some Sharia law in the UK seems "unavoidable".

Dr Rowan Williams said the UK had to "face up to the fact" some citizens do not relate to the British legal system.

He said adopting parts of Islamic Sharia law could help social cohesion.

For example, Muslims could choose to have marital disputes or financial matters dealt with in a Sharia court.


If he keeps peddling crap like that, I should be allowed to take part in his stoning Smiley: oyvey

Thankfully, everyone's lining up to call him an Mental, but nobody's yet called for the cUnt to be shipped out to Krapistan and boiled in his own Shit.


It's also a way of ghettoizing Muslims in Britain. Rather than having people continue to participate in a broader system, especially the legal system, and having things adapt and change, he wants to take a group and extrude them from society. I'm all for people maintaining their identities and society evolving and the government evolving, but it is very problematic to have potentially a separate judicial system. People in the system need to be more culturally aware if they want to serve a broad group of people.

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#7 Feb 07 2008 at 11:57 AM Rating: Good
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The Honorable Annabella wrote:
It's also a way of ghettoizing Muslims in Britain. Rather than having people continue to participate in a broader system, especially the legal system, and having things adapt and change, he wants to take a group and extrude them from society. I'm all for people maintaining their identities and society evolving and the government evolving, but it is very problematic to have potentially a separate judicial system. People in the system need to be more culturally aware if they want to serve a broad group of people.
Smiley: nod Separating peoples rights just leads to segregation and racial prejudice. It would set a horrible precedent, where would you draw the line. Another issue would be Muslims who don't want to be included in Sharia law. Would they have the option to not have it apply to them? What about in a situation where they are punished in one system but not in another?
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That is gay. 2 systems of justice for a whole of people. I really think that Muslims need to come to terms with their out dated belief and thought systems. We don't allow christians to burn suspected witches at the stake anymore, why should we allow them to stone their women or worse honor kill them?
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#9 Feb 07 2008 at 12:04 PM Rating: Good
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That is gay. 2 systems of justice for a whole of people. I really think that Muslims need to come to terms with their out dated belief and thought systems. We don't allow christians to burn suspected witches at the stake anymore, why should we allow them to stone their women or worse honor kill them?
/Whoosh

I have no issues with Islamic belief systems (although I have issues with nutters who think it allows random killing, sam as those whacky Christchens who think shooting abortionists is Jebus' work)

We have a democratic legislature. Period
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#10 Feb 07 2008 at 12:09 PM Rating: Decent
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The One and Only Katie wrote:
That is gay. 2 systems of justice for a whole of people. I really think that Muslims need to come to terms with their out dated belief and thought systems. We don't allow christians to burn suspected witches at the stake anymore, why should we allow them to stone their women or worse honor kill them?
/Whoosh

I have no issues with Islamic belief systems (although I have issues with nutters who think it allows random killing, sam as those whacky Christchens who think shooting abortionists is Jebus' work)

We have a democratic legislature. Period


We read more about fathers shooting his daughters for having boyfriends more often than we do about christians bombing abortion clinics now days.
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#11 Feb 07 2008 at 12:37 PM Rating: Good
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Nobby wrote:
The One and Only Katie wrote:
That is gay. 2 systems of justice for a whole of people. I really think that Muslims need to come to terms with their out dated belief and thought systems. We don't allow christians to burn suspected witches at the stake anymore, why should we allow them to stone their women or worse honor kill them?
/Whoosh

I have no issues with Islamic belief systems (although I have issues with nutters who think it allows random killing, sam as those whacky Christchens who think shooting abortionists is Jebus' work)

We have a democratic legislature. Period
Exactly. It's not an issue of what people believe it's about not setting up a system where people have different rights which in turn leads to groups of people being seen as having less value.
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We read more about fathers shooting his daughters for having boyfriends more often than we do about christians bombing abortion clinics now days.


Thats because we live in the United States of Repressed Media.
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#13 Feb 07 2008 at 12:40 PM Rating: Excellent
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The One and Only Katie wrote:
We read more about fathers shooting his daughters for having boyfriends more often than we do about christians bombing abortion clinics now days.
Asparagus should only really be eaten when it's locally grown and in season.

that statement was more relevant to the discussion than your drivel Katie
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#14 Feb 07 2008 at 12:41 PM Rating: Decent
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the stupid mumb-jumbo ranting **** wrote:


Dr Rowan Williams said the UK had to "face up to the fact" some citizens do not relate to the British legal system.

Smiley: lol Isn't that what prisons are for?
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The muslims have as much right to dictate what forms the british legal system as the whitehouse has the right to dictate the political system in Iraq.

Oh wait...

Just for the record neither should be allowed just incase someone totally missed the point... Katie.
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#16 Feb 07 2008 at 12:57 PM Rating: Excellent
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Elinda, Star Breaker wrote:

the stupid mumb-jumbo ranting **** wrote:


Dr Rowan Williams said the UK had to "face up to the fact" some citizens do not relate to the British legal system.

Smiley: lol Isn't that what prisons are for?
Smiley: laughThat's always been my impression.

Sharia law actually can be (has been) partially implemented within a community if the issue isn't a criminal matter. Instead of just settling via lawyers, the involved parties can choose to let a "Sharia Court" help them in their negotiations etc. This can work well when implemented properly, but is a far cry from setting up a different judicial system. It also has to be voluntary, which is usually a problem, as often one system will benefit one person more then the other, and people will usually pick the route that is more beneficial to themselves. The other main problem with this is that people within a cultural group, especially when they are new, might not realize that they have other options. It's a tough call.

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that statement was more relevant to the discussion than your drivel Katie
Yeah, I'm just ignoring her.

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#17 Feb 07 2008 at 12:57 PM Rating: Excellent
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The muslims have as much right to dictate what forms the british legal system as the whitehouse has the right to dictate the political system in Iraq.

Oh wait...

Just for the record neither should be allowed just incase someone totally missed the point... Katie.
[:nods:]

I'd qualify it though tarv.

British muslims have as much right to vote for what forms the British legal system as any other British subject.
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I'd qualify it though tarv.

British muslims have as much right to vote for what forms the British legal system as any other British subject.
hell they can have my vote, they might aswell since as an non disabled healthy white male i have no political party interested in representing my views or looking after my interests.

I do so enjoy being a cash cow for those who feel hard done by because they are a minority, little realising it the majority who are getting screwed.
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Hmm think I was agreeing with you guys that it shouldn't happen, not that I think it ever will.
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Hmm think I was agreeing with you guys that it shouldn't happen, not that I think it ever will.
We know katie, but we couldn't resist baiting you anyway.
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#21 Feb 07 2008 at 1:53 PM Rating: Good
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Hmm think I was agreeing with you guys
Of course you do, poppet.

Now put yer knickers on and fetch me a brew. Milk, no sugar.
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