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#27 Jan 28 2008 at 10:17 AM Rating: Decent
Well that wouldn't work for me Sam but hey, to each their own.
#28 Jan 28 2008 at 10:24 AM Rating: Good
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Well that wouldn't work for me Sam but hey, to each their own.
True, but you do like "sledge hammer to the face" clarity.
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#29 Jan 28 2008 at 10:31 AM Rating: Decent
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#30 Jan 28 2008 at 11:31 AM Rating: Decent
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My brother once encountered a wee Shit of a toddler slapping his son around when they were about 4 or 5. His parents saw but ignored it. This wasn't mild slapping; this was serious violence.

My bro asked the father if he planned on doing anything about it. He leered and replied that my nephew had to learn to stand up for himself. The punch landed quite neatly in the guy's stomach, and the point was made, although my bro did point out that he wasn't standing up for himself very well by wretching on all-fours.

Not wise, but effective.

I'm not advocating that, but it's down to Friend A to take it up with Friend D or quit ******** and move on.
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#31 Jan 28 2008 at 1:03 PM Rating: Good
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It would help if the adults were behaving like adults.
#32 Jan 28 2008 at 1:11 PM Rating: Decent
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It would help if the adults were behaving like adults.
wtf?

Account for yourself Sir!
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#33 Jan 28 2008 at 2:44 PM Rating: Default
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So, instead of just learning their lesson Friend A decides to take their son again just so they can play some video games?

Why don't they just get a sitter for game night. I'm sure they have some kind of relative that is willing to look after the kid, even if they might have to shed a couple of bucks.

Edited, Jan 28th 2008 2:45pm by DarkKnightZero
#34 Jan 28 2008 at 4:21 PM Rating: Decent
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DarkKnightZero wrote:
So, instead of just learning their lesson Friend A decides to take their son again just so they can play some video games?

Why don't they just get a sitter for game night. I'm sure they have some kind of relative that is willing to look after the kid, even if they might have to shed a couple of bucks.

Edited, Jan 28th 2008 2:45pm by DarkKnightZero


First of all, role-playing game =/= computer game. We're doing the old school, pen paper and dice stuff.

Second, the entire point of the group is to be a parent-friendly RPG group, as a lot of people find they have to stop attending their regular RPG groups because their non-parent compatriots in those groups don't understand the demands of parenting on one's time and attention. Leaving the kids behind rather defeats the purpose.
#35 Jan 28 2008 at 4:49 PM Rating: Excellent
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This is sounding, correct me if I'm wrong, like this is a special needs child. If this is the case, there is really nothing you can do outside of warning the other child away from him, i.e., "Mommy and Daddy DO NOT want you playing anywhere they can't see you when Johnny is around." This is something his parents are struggling with and aware of, and I think it's uncharitable and unkind, frankly, to pile on them when they are trying their best in a difficult situation and had what seems a rare oversight. They probably can't take this kid many places.

I guess it's up to you to not invite them into your home, but I wouldn't presume to un-invite them from(or dissuade them from attending) anything held outside your own home.
#36 Jan 30 2008 at 12:41 AM Rating: Decent
Wont somebody think of the children??!?
#37 Jan 30 2008 at 7:52 AM Rating: Decent
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malee wrote:
Wont somebody think of the children??!?
Well yeah, my suggestion was to supervise the dam kids. But, that's not nearly as much fun as arguing, throwing around blame, attacking people's character and picking 'favorites'.
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#38 Jan 30 2008 at 7:58 AM Rating: Decent
after reading the story a few days ago and thinking about it there are a few things one might try if it is your desire.


1. just tell friend D what their child did and friend A's reaction to the childs actions.

this is simple, straight forward and no ones feelings are hurt. they are children we are talking about after all. kids of that age do not understand how bad people can be hurt falling down stairs.

2. do not invite friend D back for a week or so and see what happens.

if it were me, i would talk with who ever of the 2 parents of friend D that you are closer too, or feel more comfortable talking with and just sit them down and let them know what happened and how you and friend A feel.

either way best of luck. i doubt it was a mean spirited thing on either the parents or the child, but you will never know until you talk with the parents.
#39 Jan 31 2008 at 5:18 AM Rating: Excellent
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I thought some of you might be interested in this little article on CNN today:

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Love your friends, hate their kid

If you secretly think your friend's child is a monster, is your only option to grit your teeth for the next 10 years?

Even parents find some other children less than adorable.

For one woman from Philadelphia, speaking up meant losing the friendship.

"One Thanksgiving, we decided to go away with close friends for the holiday," says the nurse, who asked that her name not be used because the subject is still a sensitive one. "Their daughter was very demanding and fresh with them; at one point, she even hit her mother." The nurse's husband made a comment about the incident, which their friends didn't appreciate it. "Our friendship has never been the same since."

Oriana Schooley, on the other hand, says she'd want a friend to come to her with any problems. One woman was "openly disrespectful to my 5-year-old son," recalls Schooley, 29, a real-estate professional in Buckeye, Arizona. "I have purposely avoided that woman since. If she had spoken to me first, it would probably be a different situation."

Clearly, it's a touchy subject. Even touchier: What if it's not a certain behavior you don't like, but the kid himself?


That's just the first part of the article. It's pretty vanilla, but goes along nicely with the OP so I thought I'd go ahead and post it.

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#40 Jan 31 2008 at 6:01 AM Rating: Excellent
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Yeah, I read that yesterday. Apparently it's a touchy subject! Now, who could have figured that out without the help of the fine folks at CNN?

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#41 Jan 31 2008 at 6:29 AM Rating: Excellent
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Yeah, I read that yesterday. Apparently it's a touchy subject! Now, who could have figured that out without the help of the fine folks at CNN?


CNN tells me everything I need to know about Brittany Spears. If I want to know what's going on with women who wear panties, I check bbc.

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#42 Jan 31 2008 at 6:32 AM Rating: Excellent
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Nexa wrote:
Samira wrote:
Yeah, I read that yesterday. Apparently it's a touchy subject! Now, who could have figured that out without the help of the fine folks at CNN?


CNN tells me everything I need to know about Brittany Spears. If I want to know what's going on with women who wear panties, I check bbc.

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#43 Feb 01 2008 at 10:17 PM Rating: Good
I have a friend with a kid whose a bit of a monster myself. Don't get me wrong, he's not always a monster - Only around his mother.

His behaviour with his mother there is to kick her, bite her, swear at her, throw things at her any anyone else present at the time, make racist comments (He frequently calls his mum a forking black ***** - even though she's whiter than an anaemic snowball) and to break things. He's also threatened to shoot classmates.

He's 4 .

Now, when he's not with his mum, he's sweet, well bahaved, and does what he's told. I spoke to his mum about it, and her reasoning, which I supect leads to her suns abusive behaviour towards him and in her presence is ' My last kid had a cot death, and this ones autistic. I don't want to be hard on him in case he dies too'

With me, I'm a pretty strict parent to my own kid - its the way my parents were with me, and while I dont agree with everything my parents did, it worked . My daughter knows, at age 4, what she can and can't do around me, or around others.She knows she CAN do it if she wants to, but that there will be consequences she won't like if she does. My friends kid knows the same- in my house, its my rules - you don't swear, hit, or throw things.

Kids WILL be kids - and even the best kids will have periods of misbehaviour - but even the worst kids, with persistant and firm discipline and guidelines will improve. I just wish my friend would set those guidelines in her own home. Theres really no such thing as a 'bad' kid - sure, there are some kids who are little monsters as a result of either a mental disability or lack of disciplnie and boundaries, but none that are wholly 'bad'.

I think Friend giving it another go is a good idea - but would still suggest mentioning something to friend D . It doesn't have to be harsh, just simply mention that there was a small problem, that theres a little concern, and that you hope it can be dealt with.

The suggestion of having a set person in charge of all the kids is good in theory, but from personal experience I know that supervising and caring for one child is a challenge at times - and supervising 10 alone is near impossible.

I hope the situations resolves itself anyway ^ ^
#44 Feb 02 2008 at 12:00 AM Rating: Decent
Some kids just need a slap on the hand to get the point, others need their faces rearranged.
#45 Feb 02 2008 at 7:59 AM Rating: Default
I would have pushed the kid of Friend D down a whole flight of stairs.

He wouldn't push anyone down stairs again at least.

But seriously..just tell your friend "Listen your kid is a ******* loser and he already almost killed one kid already, so either learn how to be a good parent or leave the little ***** home"
#46 Feb 02 2008 at 7:08 PM Rating: Decent
Elinda, Star Breaker wrote:
malee wrote:
Wont somebody think of the children??!?
Well yeah, my suggestion was to supervise the dam kids.


With that many kids, you have a horde.

I'd invade mongolia.
#47REDACTED, Posted: Feb 02 2008 at 8:43 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) be straight forward tell them thier kid is the devil
#48 Feb 02 2008 at 10:19 PM Rating: Decent
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Elinda, Star Breaker wrote:
malee wrote:
Wont somebody think of the children??!?
Well yeah, my suggestion was to supervise the dam kids.


With that many kids, you have a horde.

I'd invade mongolia.
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