shadowrelm wrote:
out comes a game where those that cant can be heros.
Shadowrelm cracked the code!
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guitar hero sells for 100 bucks here at target. not 80.
Edited, Jan 19th 2008 10:47am by Jophiel
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Posted: Jan 19 2008 at 6:28 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) i think kids today, kid being anyone under the age of mid 20ish, dont want to strive for anything. even in sports, if they cant sign up for soccer and be instant heros on the field, they dont come back the second week. toss out a couple feints for practice, and they grumble and moan about not being perfect at it, and when they see someone else doing better than they are, they are done with it and spend the rest of the practice trying to get people to goof off and play.
Video games are escapism?!
Shadowrelm cracked the code!
Your Target is full of thieves!
Edited, Jan 19th 2008 10:47am by Jophiel
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
shadowrelm wrote:
i think kids today, kid being anyone under the age of mid 20ish, dont want to strive for anything. even in sports, if they cant sign up for soccer and be instant heros on the field, they dont come back the second week. toss out a couple feints for practice, and they grumble and moan about not being perfect at it, and when they see someone else doing better than they are, they are done with it and spend the rest of the practice trying to get people to goof off and play.
Holy crap, that's one brilliant piece of psychological analysis there. I think you may just be onto something.
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
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i think kids today, kid being anyone under the age of mid 20ish, dont want to strive for anything. even in sports, if they cant sign up for soccer and be instant heros on the field, they dont come back the second week. toss out a couple feints for practice, and they grumble and moan about not being perfect at it, and when they see someone else doing better than they are, they are done with it and spend the rest of the practice trying to get people to goof off and play.
Jesus H. Christ on a cracker: this is the most grumpy, idealistic, unjustified, psuedo-psychological example of prejudicial, overblown, bootstrap-endorsing nostalgia concerning "kids these days" I've seen since well...
ever.
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i think kids today, kid being anyone under the age of mid 20ish, dont want to strive for anything. even in sports, if they cant sign up for soccer and be instant heros on the field, they dont come back the second week. toss out a couple feints for practice, and they grumble and moan about not being perfect at it, and when they see someone else doing better than they are, they are done with it and spend the rest of the practice trying to get people to goof off and play.
Edited, Jan 20th 2008 4:31am by sweetumssama
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Posted: Jan 21 2008 at 7:46 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) its true. im the "older generation" now.
shadowrelm wrote:
and im not kidding when i say, it doesnt take anymore time to learn to play a song on a real guitar than it does a glorified air guitar. granted, your not going to sound like a super star, but you can if you spend some more time and persistance doing it.
i dont have problems with video games. i love interactive video games too like the Wii. but for the life of me i cant understand why anyone would spend time and effort "pretending" to do something when it wouldnt take any more time, effort or resources to "really" do something.
Learning how to just play a song on the guitar doesn't teach you anything about really playing the guitar. Any monkey can look up tabs, but it takes a significant amount of dedication to learn why the famous people play what they do. In my opinion, you can't truly claim to be a guitar player until you can take a song and make it your own.
Guitar Hero is for people that don't really care about any of that, or for when real guitar players don't want to care about any of that. You don't need to know how to play three different octaves of a simple 1/4/5 progression in the key of E. You're just rawking out, damnit! Ever play air guitar (don't lie, who hasn't)? Same concept. You can do it often and by doing it often you can make it look good. But it never involves buckling down and really working at it.
I don't work on getting better at Guitar Hero. I just play Guitar Hero because it's fun. I work on getting better at playing my bass guitar. Notice the difference?
shadowrelm wrote:
i dont have problems with video games. i love interactive video games too like the Wii. but for the life of me i cant understand why anyone would spend time and effort "pretending" to do something when it wouldnt take any more time, effort or resources to "really" do something.
I know I'm going to get many sighs for not just laughing this off, but I'll flex to take this seriously.
Why is it that when you play video games you are just having a good time, but when other people play video games they are pretending or deluding themselves?
Didn't you know that SR is actually a pirate? Yes, yes! He became a pirate instead of wasting his time pretending to be one in a silly game. It's true!
What's bred in the bone will not out of the flesh.
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i dont have problems with video games. i love interactive video games too like the Wii. but for the life of me i cant understand why anyone would spend time and effort "pretending" to do something when it wouldnt take any more time, effort or resources to "really" do something.
1) It takes much more time to really learn to play the guitar than it does to play guitar hero. I went from easy to expert on GHIII in about two weeks. I took guitar lessons for about 3 years in high-school and never did give enough of a **** about it to continue past that. One is entertaining, fun in itself, where the other is a means to an end.
2) Why should I invest myself in learning a real guitar when there are plenty of other things that I can do? Playing a video-game for fun is no different than reading a fantasy novel. That rule does not change simply due to a fancy peripheral controller; Guitar Hero is simply another way to enjoy one's free time. Realize that it's for fun and stop being crotchety.
Now, when you were taking these lessons were you learning chords, progression, theory and history of guitar and music in general? Or were you just learning how to finger individual sings? A few years ago I bought a starter bass guitar set and after a few months taught myself the bass line to "Brown Eyed girl" by Van Morrison. After that I lost interest and sold it to my roommate.
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
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Now, when you were taking these lessons were you learning chords, progression, theory and history of guitar and music in general? Or were you just learning how to finger individual sings?
I started by learning the first three frets on the neck, most of the chords which were in them, and all of the notes. I also never used tabs, because it felt pretty cheap. After a while we moved onto more and more frets, and my instructor showed me how each string worked with the others, how to tune them to different keys, using capos, etc. It was certainly interesting, but it wasn't interesting enough to drag me away from reading books and playing videogames. Throughout this, I learned how to read the music for a bunch of different songs, and transcribed a few, but it really just wasn't for me. It didn't help that I still can't tell you what the difference is between different sounds; I mean I can recognize that a C is not a G, but I can't tell you how.
None of that's really the point though; the point is that GH3 is a videogame, and has as much to do with playing guitar as does playing everquest.
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Hey, what do you have against John Frusciante?
I wish Rock Band had decided on a less annoying song than "Dani California".
I agree. Californication/Under The Bridge/Any of their not new stuff = Win compared to Dani California.
I started with GH2, and it took me forever to go from easy to medium bc of the pinky usage, and then even longer to go from medium to hard but then I was good. And now I can 3 star Through the **** and the Flamers (Sorry. actually, im not sorry, dragonforce is GAY.)
I can also play Expert on rockband while only having played it twice (real drums = epic win) There are some toughies though.
Wow. An Angsty sighting. 
GH is fun, but I like DDR more. :p
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