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#27REDACTED, Posted: Jan 16 2008 at 2:34 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) what i find interesting is
#28 Jan 16 2008 at 3:04 PM Rating: Decent
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shadowrelm wrote:
what i find interesting is

for the price of the guitar and the softwear and the updates AND all the practice it requires.......

you could buy an electric less paul knock off and a small amp and learn how to play a REAL guitar.


Man, I had no idea you could get a half-decent guitar, amp, and lessons for $80! Care to forward where you found this magnificent offer? Smiley: rolleyes

Hell, while I'm at it, instead of playing Madden, why don't I go out and buy a real football and practice for a little bit? I'll be playing in jam-packed stadiums with the pros in no time!
#29 Jan 16 2008 at 3:06 PM Rating: Good
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shadowrelm wrote:
what i find interesting is

for the price of the guitar and the softwear and the updates AND all the practice it requires.......

you could buy an electric less paul knock off and a small amp and learn how to play a REAL guitar.


I played Bulls on Parade in 5 minutes. Then my wife played it. I doubt 5 minutes worth of practice is going to get me there.

#30 Jan 16 2008 at 3:09 PM Rating: Decent
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It's starting to sound like Asylum Rock Band should happen.

I call anything but vocals, or we'll fail.

I call bus driver.

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#31 Jan 16 2008 at 3:39 PM Rating: Excellent
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shadowrelm wrote:
what i find interesting is

for the price of the guitar and the softwear and the updates AND all the practice it requires.......

you could buy an electric less paul knock off and a small amp and learn how to play a REAL guitar.

Actually, I have a Les Paul knockoff (Epiphone), and a small amp, and I can safely say that they cost much more than the game and a plastic guitar.

Of course, I can't rock out Layla on Guitar Hero, so it serves my purposes well.
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#32 Jan 16 2008 at 6:35 PM Rating: Good
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I have the Guitar Hero controller in my car's trunk in case of emergency.
#33 Jan 16 2008 at 7:20 PM Rating: Decent
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My GH pride is that I managed to beat this. That took more practice than I'd care to admit.


It makes me sad that the wii can't get downloadable content. I can thrash Lou on medium but can't make the kill on hard, and being able to practice would be nice. Closest thing I can get to that is expert Cult of Personality. Now, that's a damn good song, but I'd love to be able to do the final battle as a regular song.

Though I have to wonder why they didn't make it a regular song to begin with...
#34 Jan 16 2008 at 8:33 PM Rating: Excellent
I personally enjoy Rockband more, as I love to play the drums! ^^ Fun times to be had by all.
#35 Jan 16 2008 at 8:42 PM Rating: Excellent
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shadowrelm wrote:
what i find interesting is

for the price of the guitar and the softwear and the updates AND all the practice it requires.......

you could buy an electric less paul knock off and a small amp and learn how to play a REAL guitar.
Man, I had no idea you could get a half-decent guitar, amp, and lessons for $80! Care to forward where you found this magnificent offer? Smiley: rolleyes

Hell, while I'm at it, instead of playing Madden, why don't I go out and buy a real football and practice for a little bit? I'll be playing in jam-packed stadiums with the pros in no time!
I spent my Virtua Fighter money on ninja lessons and now I'm a ninja.
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#36REDACTED, Posted: Jan 17 2008 at 7:55 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Man, I had no idea you could get a half-decent guitar, amp, and lessons for $80! Care to forward where you found this magnificent offer?
#37 Jan 17 2008 at 7:58 AM Rating: Excellent
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It's a video game. Smiley: oyvey

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#38REDACTED, Posted: Jan 17 2008 at 8:01 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) yes, a video game about pretending to play a guitar. my point, you could learn to play a REAL one for the same money and time committment. it really isnt that hard. get a few blisters on your fingers for sure, but its not that hard.
#39 Jan 17 2008 at 8:05 AM Rating: Excellent
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shadowrelm wrote:
yes, a video game about pretending to play a guitar. my point, you could learn to play a REAL one for the same money and time committment. it really isnt that hard. get a few blisters on your fingers for sure, but its not that hard.


Well, I think the point of the game is that sometimes it's more fun to pretend.

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#40 Jan 17 2008 at 8:05 AM Rating: Good
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Pfft, who wants to be Guitar Dude? Smiley: rolleyes
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shadowrelm wrote:
yes, a video game about pretending to play a guitar. my point, you could learn to play a REAL one for the same money and time committment.
Maybe at the top end (although the guitar players I know say "No"). At the low end, its charm is that any half-drunk idiot can bang out a passable version of "Surrender" complete with rock accompaniment by the band on screen.
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#42 Jan 17 2008 at 10:09 AM Rating: Good
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shadowrelm wrote:
yes, a video game about pretending to play a guitar. my point, you could learn to play a REAL one for the same money and time committment. it really isnt that hard. get a few blisters on your fingers for sure, but its not that hard.


Ahh another person who thinks the game is more serious than it is. Dude, it's just a game. It's fun and relatively easy. instead of 24 frets and 6 strings with however many octaves, it's 5 buttons. I swear the naysayers take the game more seriously than the people who actually play it. Do you honestly think people holding a plastic toy guitar that looks like it was made by playschool think they are a real rockstar?

And its always the same "ill go play my REAL guitar cuz im so cool and "playing" guitar is so uncommon now (not) so people will be impressed!" I tried teaching my wife the intro to Nothing Else Matters. Just the intro, one of the easiest things to play out there, she has had no previous guitar playing experience. It took days before she gave up without really getting it. But hey she picked up GH and played some songs all the way through on medium and had a great time.

Anyway, define "play a real one". I went from fumbling notes on easy to beating all but 1 song on expert in GH2 (the first one i bought) in about a month, though i do feel i was a quick learner with this game. 1 month of playing real guitar, self taught, i could play Smells Like Teen Spirit, Come As You Are (lol, my first song) and Today, by Smashing Pumpkins... drop D tuning ftw i suppose. Maybe a few other piece of cake songs. Took weeks just to get my hand to realize it could, in fact, contort in the ways needed to do power chords. I also managed to teach myself to play my A and D chords the wrong way, a habit i've yet to break this many years later.

Hardly anything to write home about.

Not to mention the knowledge of music needed to do anything at all creative on a guitar. Im sorry but strumming your way through some A, C, D, G, E chords, or mashing your single finger across three strings with dropped D and heavy distortion isnt playing guitar in my book, laying down improv'd solos (real solos, not John Frusciante solos) and creating unique riffs and chord progressions is, and that doesnt come in months unless you are just inherently musically inclined. But yeah, non-players are easily impressed by anyone who can make something that makes musical sense come out of a guitar, doesnt make it any more of an achievement.

Point is, real guitar isnt for everyone. If you have no musical talent you will never play guitar as defined by me. Anyone can play guitar hero on some difficulty level and have a good time. I like watching people play it, and i like seeing people getting into music and even interacting with it. If you are playing guitar hero to impress somebody other than your friend who also plays then.... just dont, lmao. thats sad.

Btw, another neat thing about Guitar Hero for the people who do play guitar is that in the practice mode, it removes the guitar part entirely but the rest of the band still plays, as do the vocals. So you put the controller aside and turn the amp on and do a little guitar karaoke.

edit: holy crap tl;dr. didnt realize i rambled on that long.

Edited, Jan 17th 2008 10:10am by KTurner
#43 Jan 17 2008 at 11:12 AM Rating: Decent
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yes, a video game about pretending to play a guitar. my point, you could learn to play a REAL one for the same money and time committment.


Well fuck man, if I had known that, I would have been a swinging, dancing Secret Agent by now, for all of the hours I put into Elite Beat Agents.
#44 Jan 17 2008 at 4:14 PM Rating: Good
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Do you think I can pass the bar after playing a bit of Phoenix Wright?
#45 Jan 17 2008 at 4:45 PM Rating: Good
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Hey, what do you have against John Frusciante?

#46 Jan 17 2008 at 5:12 PM Rating: Good
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Oh, and I've been playing guitar since I was 12 (although never at an expert skill level or anything), but guitar hero is fun anyway. A lot of the songs are more challenging to play in the game than they are in real life.

But I gave up after getting 3/4ths of the way through GHII on expert. The novelty does wear off.

#47 Jan 17 2008 at 5:12 PM Rating: Good
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I wish Rock Band had decided on a less annoying song than "Dani California".
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#48 Jan 17 2008 at 5:20 PM Rating: Good
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Ah, didn't realize that song was on there. Should have gone with anything off of Bloodsugarsexmagik.


#49 Jan 17 2008 at 8:24 PM Rating: Good
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Hey, what do you have against John Frusciante?



heh, love his work, great melodies, but just saying his solos were some of the first ones i learned on guitar, in 99 when californication came out.

Not complicated in the least bit.
#50 Jan 18 2008 at 1:22 AM Rating: Decent
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I don't care much for the game, but that probably has a lot to do with not really caring for the music. I'd prefer to try my hand at Rock Band's vocals or fail miserably at drums.
#51 Jan 18 2008 at 6:44 AM Rating: Good
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I don't have enough fingers...

I watched the "Cult of Personality" video on youtube where the person practically aces it. Even the free style part... I think he was born with extra fingers.

give me an Atari joystick and i'll ace it! Possibly the Nintendo joystick but the heck with the SNES one.
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