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#1 Jan 13 2008 at 7:19 PM Rating: Excellent
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Ok, so the bulk of the asylum likes politics, and we see the debate threads, but we never really get to see the underlaying thought process and beliefs that govern those oppinions. I'm curious to see what response people would have if they were the one on the podium. So, now, you are. Answer the following questions in 100 words or less please:

1. Given the situation in Iraq as it is today, and assuming that situation will not worsen until you act (though your action could also improve the situation), what would your policy be on a U.S. presence in Iraq?

2. The U.S. economy seems to be heading for browner pastures. What would you do to improve the current economic situation?

3. You have just recieved concrete, irrifutable proof that Osama bin laden is hideing in an Iranian military bunker. It has been verified, there is no chance the intel is wrong. He is there and will be for the next 24 hours. What do you do next?

If you want clarification on any of the scenarios, let me know. I'm more curious aobut what actions you would take given the situation than any loopholes you would use to get around the situation, though i guess that's an action in it's own right. For the purpose of answering, you have all the powers of the President and the backing of congress at your disposal.
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#2 Jan 13 2008 at 7:27 PM Rating: Good
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Dread Lörd Kaolian wrote:
Answer the following questions in 100 words or less please:
You've excluded gbaji. Smiley: confused
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Dread Lörd Kaolian wrote:
1. Given the situation in Iraq as it is today, and assuming that situation will not worsen until you act (though your action could also improve the situation), what would your policy be on a U.S. presence in Iraq?
Set a firm date to pull out all combat troops. Say 6 months. Then do it.

I'd give them fishing poles and lemon trees for the hard times.

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2. The U.S. economy seems to be heading for browner pastures. What would you do to improve the current economic situation?
Hmm, not being much of an economist, I ask someone for advice. Smiley: tongue

I dont' think the economy is in that bad of shape...yet. We've seen the worst of the mortgage debacle, China's prices are going up, heck we cut back on military spending and beef up medicare things should be rosy.

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3. You have just recieved concrete, irrifutable proof that Osama bin laden is hideing in an Iranian military bunker. It has been verified, there is no chance the intel is wrong. He is there and will be for the next 24 hours. What do you do next?
Leak it to the media???

It would depend on Iran's cooperation. I think not totally pissing off Iran is more important that capturing a terrorist figurehead.

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1. Given the situation in Iraq as it is today, and assuming that situation will not worsen until you act (though your action could also improve the situation), what would your policy be on a U.S. presence in Iraq?


Increase troop strength by 400,000, establish a clear ten year plan for phased withdrawal.


2. The U.S. economy seems to be heading for browner pastures. What would you do to improve the current economic situation?


Raise taxes on the assets of the wealthiest one percent. Not income, but assets.


3. You have just recieved concrete, irrifutable proof that Osama bin laden is hideing in an Iranian military bunker. It has been verified, there is no chance the intel is wrong. He is there and will be for the next 24 hours. What do you do next?


Nuke it from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
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#5 Jan 13 2008 at 8:02 PM Rating: Default
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Ok, so the bulk of the asylum likes politics, and we see the debate threads, but we never really get to see the underlaying thought process and beliefs that govern those opinions. I'm curious to see what response people would have if they were the one on the podium. So, now, you are. Answer the following questions in 100 words or less please:

1. Given the situation in Iraq as it is today, and assuming that situation will not worsen until you act (though your action could also improve the situation), what would your policy be on a U.S. presence in Iraq?

2. The U.S. economy seems to be heading for browner pastures. What would you do to improve the current economic situation?

3. You have just received concrete, irrefutable proof that Osama bin laden is hiding in an Iranian military bunker. It has been verified, there is no chance the intel is wrong. He is there and will be for the next 24 hours. What do you do next?

If you want clarification on any of the scenarios, let me know. I'm more curious about what actions you would take given the situation than any loopholes you would use to get around the situation, though i guess that's an action in it's own right. For the purpose of answering, you have all the powers of the President and the backing of congress at your disposal.



1. Given the situation in Iraq as it is today, and assuming that situation will not worsen until you act (though your action could also improve the situation), what would your policy be on a U.S. presence in Iraq?

Increase troops, make a plan to be there at least 10 years to rebuild and help steady the govt.


2. The U.S. economy seems to be heading for browner pastures. What would you do to improve the current economic situation?

Increase taxes, force companies to bring back jobs to the US.

3. You have just received concrete, irrefutable proof that Osama bin laden is hiding in an Iranian military bunker. It has been verified, there is no chance the intel is wrong. He is there and will be for the next 24 hours. What do you do next?

Sooper secret attack force. In and out before anyone knows what happened.



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Set a firm date to pull out all combat troops. Say 6 months. Then do it.


I realize you're likely joking, but that would be an unmitigated disaster.
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Dread Lörd Kaolian wrote:
1. Given the situation in Iraq as it is today, and assuming that situation will not worsen until you act (though your action could also improve the situation), what would your policy be on a U.S. presence in Iraq?
Do we have 200,000 extra troops available? If so, I would lean towards that.

Assuming that we don't, and I don't care to start a draft, I would spend one year concentrating on training the Iraqi military. Not just cranking out numbers but also training Iraqi commanders who could help continue training. Afterwards, I would begin a phased withdrawl to about 25% of our current numbers, based in a few key locations, tasked with continuing training and providing military support when needed. Particularly in equipment-specific areas such as air support and heavy armor where Iraq just doesn't own the machinery. The idea would be to more or less force the Iraqi government to pick up the slack but not to throw them to the wolves.
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2. The U.S. economy seems to be heading for browner pastures. What would you do to improve the current economic situation?
I defer on this one since I don't feel qualified to say. It's not like leading an army, after all Smiley: wink2
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3. You have just recieved concrete, irrifutable proof that Osama bin laden is hideing in an Iranian military bunker. It has been verified, there is no chance the intel is wrong. He is there and will be for the next 24 hours. What do you do next?
Is he there under the protection of the Iranian government? If not, go in with special forces and try to eliminate him without raising a public fuss.

On the other hand, if he's surrounded by Iranian crack troops we have to kill through, I'll need to come up with a Plan B. Not sure what that is yet. In the mean time, everyone who was going to tell the papers that President Jophiel passed on the chance in 2007 gets a polonium pizza party.

I could nuance #1 a lot more but you wanted a short answer.
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1. Given the situation in Iraq as it is today, and assuming that situation will not worsen until you act (though your action could also improve the situation), what would your policy be on a U.S. presence in Iraq?

Withdraw troops immediately, we gave them more then time and support for them to get their shit together. We give then trade support and advice, but the obligation to hold their hand is gone now. They either form into a stable government by their own means or they just wont make it.

I don't recall any mention of French troops babysitting us for this long after the end of the Revolutionary War.


2. The U.S. economy seems to be heading for browner pastures. What would you do to improve the current economic situation?

I agree with Smashroo on this one, the wealthy can afford to lose some cash, especially since they make more then they would lose on interest alone.


3. You have just received concrete, irrefutable proof that Osama bin laden is hiding in an Iranian military bunker. It has been verified, there is no chance the intel is wrong. He is there and will be for the next 24 hours. What do you do next?


Keep a satellite trained on the bunker, alert the Iranian government they have one hour to capture him themselves or you will air-drop troops on top of the bunker. Meanwhile before you alert them, prepare the troops and have them in position 30 min before the deadline is up. If you see the people at the bunker start to evacuate, you know the Iranian government has a very big info leak and order air strikes to keep the terrorists pinned in side the bunker until either the Iranian Army shows up or the one hour time limit is up.
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#9 Jan 13 2008 at 9:17 PM Rating: Decent
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Simple put all of the resources of the United States of America into the development of a time machine. Go back to July 6, 1946 and stop Barbara Bush from conceiving. Then I would go bang a 20 yr old Marilyn Monroe, twice.

That should be less than 100 words, I can't count that high though so to hell with you, number ****!

In reality though the way things are going to play out are exceedingly obvious. Hell they were obvious this time last year. Stop gap solutions, ignore the real problem, ride out the term and blame it all on the next guy or the guy before you.
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We don't have 200k, in fact we don't have enough to maintain the present troop surge which is why it is ending now.

As for the draft, it would be political suicide and be very hard if not impossible to make happen. Plus it would be impractical to get it going in the time frame needed, in fact it was stated 9 months ago that even if they started it that day it would be too long.
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1. Given the situation in Iraq as it is today, and assuming that situation will not worsen until you act (though your action could also improve the situation), what would your policy be on a U.S. presence in Iraq?


Given that I have the backing of congress, would provide refuge and transportation to America for Iraqi citizens along with a sort of pseudo-citizenship, as well as provide funding and labor for reconstruction. Yes, the entire country would ******* hate me, but it would be the responsible thing to do.

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2. The U.S. economy seems to be heading for browner pastures. What would you do to improve the current economic situation?


Tax relief for the wealthy for investing assets in economy-stimulating business, especially for raising the wages of their employees. Increased taxes on savings and "investments" (i.e., luxury crap) that do not. In other words, more emphasis on how money is used than how much you have.

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3. You have just recieved concrete, irrifutable proof that Osama bin laden is hideing in an Iranian military bunker. It has been verified, there is no chance the intel is wrong. He is there and will be for the next 24 hours. What do you do next?


Secretly ask the Iranian leader to turn him over to American authorities, and hope he complies. If he doesn't (probably the case), just don't tell anyone.

#12 Jan 13 2008 at 9:24 PM Rating: Default
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I don't recall any mention of French troops babysitting us for this long after the end of the Revolutionary War.


Yeah, I'm pretty sure this is different is thousands of ways. War back then didn't usually level entire cities.

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As for the draft, it would be political suicide and be very hard if not impossible to make happen.
Well, the scenario is that Congress will support me.
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My main reason for not pursuing it.
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Tax relief for the wealthy for investing assets in economy-stimulating business, especially for raising the wages of their employees.


Frankly when it comes down to nonsensical and downright delusional solutions I still prefer my timemachine one, yours is pretty far out though, man.

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Tax relief for the wealthy for investing assets in economy-stimulating business, especially for raising the wages of their employees.


Frankly when it comes down to nonsensical and downright delusional solutions I still prefer my timemachine one, yours is pretty far out though, man.

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#16 Jan 13 2008 at 10:30 PM Rating: Good
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Let me clarify. Taxes on the wealthy would go up, but less so the more of their wealth is invested in creating new jobs and increasing the wages of the lower class. Believe it or not, there are many wealthy people in the world for whom it is true that increasing their tax burden reduces the net economic stimulation, precisely because they invest their dollars more productively than the US government could hope to. The ones who save their millions or spend it on luxury **** are the ones that are depriving those dollars from the lower class.
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Extra troops could be aquired, either by increased military funding, or getting the other countries un-pissed at us and have them send in additional peacekeeping forces. I'd say 200k would be an acceptable theoretical additional number within the rules.
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#18 Jan 13 2008 at 11:19 PM Rating: Decent
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1. Given the situation in Iraq as it is today, and assuming that situation will not worsen until you act (though your action could also improve the situation), what would your policy be on a U.S. presence in Iraq?


Assuming starting today; withdrawal of all US forces by 8/09. Not just combat troops, all. All bases, all everything. To demonstrate that this is a policy movement rather than an abandon Iraq movement I'd also withdraw all forces (ALL) from Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and Pakistan.

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2. The U.S. economy seems to be heading for browner pastures. What would you do to improve the current economic situation?


Well, I'd work on interest rates or something. Not an economist. The housing thing needs attention so I'd offer first-time buyers a federal incentive. Would reduce taxes by at least 10% across the board while also vetoing every budget that would not account for that 10% through reducing pork. Every time a congressman put in pork my press secretary would bellow this from her podium.

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3. You have just recieved concrete, irrifutable proof that Osama bin laden is hideing in an Iranian military bunker. It has been verified, there is no chance the intel is wrong. He is there and will be for the next 24 hours. What do you do next?


Depends on how close our air base is or our carrier is. But:

Send in Commanches
Bomb it with B2 bombers
Drop troops from commanches or land them
Verify kill
Get out

Ignore any brouhaha from the Iranians post facto. We already pulled our **** out of the ME. With bin Laden dead we're pretty much done there. Their using our attack for internal means is irrelevant.
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Dread Lörd Kaolian wrote:
1. Given the situation in Iraq as it is today, and assuming that situation will not worsen until you act (though your action could also improve the situation), what would your policy be on a U.S. presence in Iraq?


Assuming starting today; withdrawal of all US forces by 8/09. Not just combat troops, all. All bases, all everything. To demonstrate that this is a policy movement rather than an abandon Iraq movement I'd also withdraw all forces (ALL) from Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and Pakistan.

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2. The U.S. economy seems to be heading for browner pastures. What would you do to improve the current economic situation?


Well, I'd work on interest rates or something. Not an economist. The housing thing needs attention so I'd offer first-time buyers a federal incentive. Would reduce taxes by at least 10% across the board while also vetoing every budget that would not account for that 10% through reducing pork. Every time a congressman put in pork my press secretary would bellow this from her podium.

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3. You have just recieved concrete, irrifutable proof that Osama bin laden is hideing in an Iranian military bunker. It has been verified, there is no chance the intel is wrong. He is there and will be for the next 24 hours. What do you do next?


Depends on how close our air base is or our carrier is. But:

Send in Commanches
Bomb it with B2 bombers
Drop troops from commanches or land them
Verify kill
Get out

Ignore any brouhaha from the Iranians post facto. We already pulled our sh*t out of the ME. With bin Laden dead we're pretty much done there. Their using our attack for internal means is irrelevant.


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1. Given the situation in Iraq as it is today, and assuming that situation will not worsen until you act (though your action could also improve the situation), what would your policy be on a U.S. presence in Iraq?


I would immediately move all troops 3 paces to the left, thus throwing off the aim of all the bad guys. Repeat as necessary until the enemy surrenders.

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2. The U.S. economy seems to be heading for browner pastures. What would you do to improve the current economic situation?


Take over Canada. Those bastards have had it coming.

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3. You have just recieved concrete, irrifutable proof that Osama bin laden is hideing in an Iranian military bunker. It has been verified, there is no chance the intel is wrong. He is there and will be for the next 24 hours. What do you do next?


I'd tell China that they can have Taiwan if they take care of it on the down-low. Well, as long as they kept those high-quality 'Made in Taiwan' toys flowing.
#21 Jan 14 2008 at 5:46 AM Rating: Decent
I decided to read this thread to read Joph's and Smash's point of view.



And then I got bored.
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Whoopsie, I think some of my points contradicted each other...

1. Given the situation in Iraq as it is today, and assuming that situation will not worsen until you act (though your action could also improve the situation), what would your policy be on a U.S. presence in Iraq?

Well if it's not going to get any worse why change anything? Things are just peachy over there aren't they? Just maintain the current level of troops indefinitely and while the time away.
Immediately pull all US troops and advisers back to the States (see points 2 and 3)

2. The U.S. economy seems to be heading for browner pastures. What would you do to improve the current economic situation?

Lock down the borders. Keep the jobs in and the ******** out.

3. You have just recieved concrete, irrifutable proof that Osama bin laden is hideing in an Iranian military bunker. It has been verified, there is no chance the intel is wrong. He is there and will be for the next 24 hours. What do you do next?

Remove the source of the problem. Nuke the entire Middle East. I'm not going to flip-flop on this stance now!


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Set a firm date to pull out all combat troops. Say 6 months. Then do it.


I realize you're likely joking, but that would be an unmitigated disaster.
Ok, we can give um a year, but really if you're gonna do it, why wait?

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Raise taxes on the assets of the wealthiest one percent. Not income, but assets.

While I have no problem taxing the wealthy, just what does this mean? Does all their stuff get taxed every year?
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1. Given the situation in Iraq as it is today, and assuming that situation will not worsen until you act (though your action could also improve the situation), what would your policy be on a U.S. presence in Iraq?

I agree the posters on increasing troops and maintaining them as long as it takes.

2. The U.S. economy seems to be heading for browner pastures. What would you do to improve the current economic situation?

The mortgage crisis problem: I would put a freeze on foreclosures and fast track a fed program to pay refinacing costs of mortgages in trouble. An example of what I believe is the problem in a majority of forecloures is that someone is in default on say a 300K mortgage due to higher payments than a regular mortgage; if they could refinance to a regular mortgage then they could keep their home. However, refinancing has costs, so the new loan might be 320K and the banks will not increase the loan amount due to underwriting polices. Thus the feds pick up the difference so the loan amount stays the same and the home owner does not lose the home. In NY for example you are taxed a mortgage tax when you refinaince on the whole amount. These type of taxes could be eliminated on refinancing to help stem foreclosures.

3. You have just recieved concrete, irrifutable proof that Osama bin laden is hideing in an Iranian military bunker. It has been verified, there is no chance the intel is wrong. He is there and will be for the next 24 hours. What do you do next?

Bomb the crap out of the bunker, declare war on Iran, invoke NATO and invade. Harboring the person responsible for 9-11 is an act of war.

Edited, Jan 14th 2008 10:05am by fhrugby
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1. Given the situation in Iraq as it is today, and assuming that situation will not worsen until you act (though your action could also improve the situation), what would your policy be on a U.S. presence in Iraq?

Increase the size and funding of the U.S. military to pre-Clinton strength.
Increase the size of the Iraq force to 250,000, disarm the militias and disable insurgent groups.
Create a regional base akin to Incirlik and use it as a base of operations for modernizing and Westernizing the entire middle east for the next 50 years.
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2. The U.S. economy seems to be heading for browner pastures. What would you do to improve the current economic situation?

Eliminate or drastically reduce corporate income taxes to encourage businesses to stay on shore, reduce the marginal personal income rates by 20% across the board, eliminate the Alternative Minimum Tax and eliminate the estate tax to spur investment, create more income and increase gross tax collection.
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3. You have just recieved concrete, irrifutable proof that Osama bin laden is hideing in an Iranian military bunker. It has been verified, there is no chance the intel is wrong. He is there and will be for the next 24 hours. What do you do next?

8-10 cruise missiles should do the trick.
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Nuke it from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.


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