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#1 Jan 12 2008 at 3:18 PM Rating: Default
Die, PETA! Die! /insert Pew pew pew noises here

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PETA Killed 97 Percent of 'Companion Animals' in 2006, According to VDACS



While I understand that animals who can't find homes have to be put down, I still think this is a great slap to the face of those hypercritical bastages at PETA. FuCk you and your anti-steak house ways.
#2 Jan 12 2008 at 3:48 PM Rating: Good
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Press release.

You didn't check to see if it was true or not before forming an opinion, right?

Hahah, just kidding. Of course you didn't.

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Uh huh.

Did you READ THE REPORT?

It's for *one office in Virginia* and while the number of euthanized animals is 97 percent of the number of animals voluntarily surrendered, it's not a count of animals from that group, but from a larger group of over 9000.

Learn ******* 3rd grade statistics. Jesus.

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#5 Jan 12 2008 at 4:28 PM Rating: Good
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If it's true I'm not surprised.

The reason we had a menagerie of wild birds and animals on our farm as a kid was because neighbours knew the local RSPCA (UK equivalent of PETA) killed anything that wasn't a cute pedigree puppy, so they brought them to us.

The local 'rescue centre' even euthenised a Gyr-Falcon (very rare at the time) because it had a broken wing that we would've splinted with 2 popsicle sticks and cotton Smiley: rolleyes

If PETA is like RSPCA, they're air-head theorist vegan do-gooders with all the practical skills of a demotic social historiographer.
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#6 Jan 12 2008 at 4:37 PM Rating: Excellent
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Nobby wrote:

The local 'rescue centre' even euthenised a Gyr-Falcon (very tastey at the time) because it had a broken wing that we would've splinted with 2 popsicle sticks and cotton Smiley: rolleyes


Well can you blame them? A little pultry seasoning, some salt, maybe a sliced black truffle or two, and who wouldn't want to eat a delicious Gyr Falcon?
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#7 Jan 12 2008 at 4:40 PM Rating: Good
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Dread Lörd Kaolian wrote:
who wouldn't want to eat a delicious Gyr Falcon?
Pfft. Tastes too much like Swan
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#8 Jan 12 2008 at 6:07 PM Rating: Excellent
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Not the first time I hear about this, and apparently PETA has gotten into trouble for this stance before-apparently they feel it's better to put an animal that no one wants out of its misery and remove it from the population. My brother lived in VA Beach for many years, and the HQ they have in Hampton Roads is infamous.

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There were clear attempts to promote the story line that Hinkle and Cook's arrest proved that PETA was run by hypocrites.

Except it's no secret that PETA kills animals. Never has been. PETA euthanized 1,946 animals in 2005, the most recent year on file with the Virginia Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services.

The organization's reasoning goes something like this: For some animals, a life of pain and suffering is worse than a quick end. Anyone who doesn't know that PETA euthanizes hundreds of animals every year simply hasn't been paying attention, either to the organization, what it says, or the public documents it submits.

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Anyone who doesn't know that PETA euthanizes hundreds of animals every year


I don't see this as a problem, frankly. I don't agree with PETA's political stance, but ethically their integrity seems intact.

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#10 Jan 12 2008 at 6:18 PM Rating: Good
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Smasharoo wrote:

Anyone who doesn't know that PETA euthanizes hundreds of animals every year


I don't see this as a problem, frankly. I don't agree with PETA's political stance, but ethically their integrity seems intact.

The unanswered question is whether they're killing animals that would otherwise die slowly and painfully, or killing animals that are inconvenient.
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#11 Jan 12 2008 at 6:19 PM Rating: Good
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PETA is like one of those religions that canvas for new converts.

In your face and obnoxious but they do manage to change some peoples minds.
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#12 Jan 12 2008 at 6:24 PM Rating: Good
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I don't see this as a problem, frankly. I don't agree with PETA's political stance, but ethically their integrity seems intact.
PETA seems to agree. For me, it's akin to saying we should off orphans because we don't want them to suffer through the system. If I should cherish an animal's life enough to give up my meat and leather, it seems pretty silly to kill it off simply because I don't agree with its life-path.
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PETA seems to agree. For me, it's akin to saying we should off orphans because we don't want them to suffer through the system. If I should cherish an animal's life enough to give up my meat and leather, it seems pretty silly to kill it off simply because I don't agree with its life-path.


Not to advocate for PETA, but I think it'd be more akin to killing escaped slaves. Regardless, it's a long long long way from hypocritical of them.


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#14 Jan 12 2008 at 6:30 PM Rating: Good
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I think it'd be more akin to killing escaped slaves.
And that's ethical... how?
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And that's ethical... how?


If your ethos is that suffering the bondage of slavery is worse than death, how could it not be? Honestly, what's the other option for them? Adoption to people who, according to their ethos will torture the animals?
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#16 Jan 12 2008 at 6:35 PM Rating: Good
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Smasharoo wrote:

And that's ethical... how?


If your ethos is that suffering the bondage of slavery is worse than death, how could it not be? Honestly, what's the other option for them? Adoption to people who, according to their ethos will torture the animals?
But PETA doesn't condemn animals as pets. Isn't killing them for meat as senseless as killing them over an assumption?
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But PETA doesn't condemn animals as pets. Isn't killing them for meat as senseless as killing them over an assumption?


Yeah, maybe. Personally, I don't care if people want to torture animals. Dog fighting, great. You want to blind Chimpanzees and eat their eyeballs in front of their mates? Go for it. That's not the question here. Peta is being ethically consistent, and not doing anything illegal. What I'm hearing is that you disagree with them. So do I. That doesn't make them unethical or hypocrites.
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#18 Jan 12 2008 at 6:48 PM Rating: Good
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Shouldn't they set them loose in the forest or something?

#19 Jan 12 2008 at 6:51 PM Rating: Decent
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Shouldn't they set them loose in the forest or something?


Housecats and dogs so they can die horrible deaths because they have no survival skills? Probably not.

They should probably be feeding homeless Koreans with the meat though, I'll grant you that.

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If people would just listen to Bob Barker, we wouldn't even have this problem.

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#21 Jan 12 2008 at 6:54 PM Rating: Good
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Wouldn't dying in the wild be better than slavery, according to their ethos? Once they start making the decision for the animals without their consent, they've already crossed their own line.


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Wouldn't dying in the wild be better than slavery, according to their ethos?


No, because their main ethical point is that animals shouldn't suffer needlessly.

Starving to death in the wild would be needless suffering.
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Once they start making the decision for the animals without their consent, they've already crossed their own line.


No, you don't understand their point, clearly.

Which is odd, because I don't find it particularly confusing.
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No, because their main ethical point is that animals shouldn't suffer needlessly.

That can't be their main point, otherwise they would advocate rescuing starving animals and keeping them as pets.

And what percentage of animals in the wild end up starving to death anyway? Does PETA advocate hunting to keep the deer population down?

Also, some of the animals they euthanize would certainly survive, albeit a small percentage. PETA is making a blanket decision and denying those capable animals the right to exist freely.

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PETA is making a blanket decision and denying those capable animals the right to exist freely.


No. Society made a blanket decisions that animals don't have that right. Do you see the difference?

Let me say, yet again, I'm not an animal rights advocate. I have zero problem with 100000000 bunnies being vivisected in an effort to create better smelling toothpaste. You, like Flea, aren't arguing the ethical point. You're just disagreeing with the ethos. Which is fine. I do too, in fact. It doesn't make it inconsistent, however.
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#26 Jan 12 2008 at 7:15 PM Rating: Good
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No, I clearly think you are an animal rights advocate so please repeat that for us a few more times. I don't think you're appearing objective enough yet.


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