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#1 Jan 09 2008 at 8:51 AM Rating: Excellent
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CNN Poll today:

Which of the candidates claiming primary wins in New Hampshire would be more likely to get your vote for president?
Sen. Hillary Clinton 50% 56726
Sen. John McCain 50% 55645
Total Votes: 112371

I thought CNN was supposed to have a more liberal audience.

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#2 Jan 09 2008 at 8:54 AM Rating: Decent
Nexa wrote:
I thought CNN was supposed to have a more liberal audience.


Even the haters of the stations still watch it just as much as the audience it targets. Ask Fox news.
#3 Jan 09 2008 at 8:58 AM Rating: Excellent
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#4 Jan 09 2008 at 10:25 AM Rating: Decent
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Internet polls are worthless. All you need is a couple blogs saying "OMG Click this link and vote for X!!"


/nod

Not to mention other ways online polls are abused.
#5 Jan 09 2008 at 1:59 PM Rating: Good
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Internet polls are worthless. All you need is a couple blogs saying "OMG Click this link and vote for X!!"


Right, not useful like those carefully modeled pre voting tracking and exit polls.

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McCain can't win anyway, so it's not terribly relevant.
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Right, not useful like those carefully modeled pre voting tracking and exit polls.

:)
Sure, regular polling has its flaws and embarassing mistakes. It's still better than "Invite your friends to click this button!"

To restate my usual: Traditional polling is flawed but remains the best method we have of guessing.
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Sure, regular polling has its flaws and embarassing mistakes. It's still better than "Invite your friends to click this button!"

To restate my usual: Traditional polling is flawed but remains the best method we have of guessing.


I was joking.

Let's try it again:

Not like dem dere crazy poling results!!! You know they built that upside down air craft carrier!! Ah ha cha cha cha. :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

Unsubtle enough?
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#10 Jan 09 2008 at 5:48 PM Rating: Excellent
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There is only one way to settle this:
Which of the candidates claiming primary wins in New Hampshire would be more likely to get your vote for president?
Sen. Hillary Clinton:23 (71.9%)
Sen. John McCain:9 (28.1%)
Total:32


Internet polls are silly... but forum polls are science!

Vote or i'll karma camp you!
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#12 Jan 09 2008 at 8:40 PM Rating: Good
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Frightens you, Nexa, because you want so badly for Hillary to win and the predictions showed she was supposed to lose, or frightens you because John McCain appeals to independents for not adhereing strictly to the party line and could allow Republicans to take the Oval Office again?

In all seriousness, it amazes me that people are willing to consider Hillary as a viable candidate considering her prediliction for secrecy and exclusiveness. Everything about her suggests she would operate a presidential administration as furtively as she possibly could-- something that should be anathema to freedom loving open-to-the-media cherishing Lefties. Can you say Nixonian? Can you say virtual Patriot Act when discussing her policy decisions?

The woman practically exudes loathing of the press and hates to compromise in any way. Gridlock coupled with paranoia is a recipe for disaster, but hey, if the commonality of having ovaries are the prerequisite for earning your vote, more power to ya. Just let it never be said women's sufferage was a good idea if gender is the basis for the female lovefest with Mrs. Clinton. That, after all, would just confirm what many men secretly believe anyhow-- that the weaker sex is entirely too emotional to be trusted with power.

/quickly holds his hands up in front of himself in defense

Not that I think that way!

/glances over at Mrs. Totem

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#13 Jan 09 2008 at 8:43 PM Rating: Decent
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Dread Lörd Kaolian wrote:
There is only one way to settle this:Poll Removed: No more than one per thread, please!

Internet polls are silly... but forum polls are science!

Vote or i'll karma camp you!
Which shall I pick for a rate up?
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#14 Jan 09 2008 at 8:53 PM Rating: Excellent
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Hate to say it, but I'm with Totem on this......
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#15 Jan 09 2008 at 9:10 PM Rating: Good
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It just kills you to admit that, doesn't it, paulsol?

:D

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If a Republican had to win, let it be McCain.

He's for immigration reform and, despite his "I learned my lesson" statements, I think that if he was in office with a Democratic controlled Congress, he'd push to do it.

He supports federal funding for stem cell research.

He's the only one from that side willing to speak against torture. Wants to close Guantanamo Bay and move prisoners to Fort Leavenworth, eliminating the "Not really American soil" loophole.

He's taken a more critical approach to the war rather than following the Bush line. I'm not saying that I agree with his current plans for the war but he seems to have a more thoughtful approach to it than Bush did or, by association, those who continue to say "Yay Bush! Boo Terrorists!" whenever it comes up.

He's outspokenly against drilling in ANWR.

Voted against the gay marriage prohibition amendment.

There's a lot that I don't like about him as well (abortion, education, etc) and even some of the above he's not perfect on, but he's a hell of a lot closer to someone I'd vote for than any of the other possible Republican candidates.
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#17 Jan 09 2008 at 10:04 PM Rating: Good
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Clinton makes McCain look like the utterly reasonable choice by comparison. Claiming experience based on being a First Lady makes Laura Bush a viable candidate-- something I think we'd all agree is not a terribly wise idea, even if she seems to be a wonderfully nice person.

McCain has experience. Hillary is doing the equivilent of padding her resume to apply for a job as a genetic scientist because she was a janitor in the lab. Just because she has cleaned a few beakers and examined the equipment up close doesn't mean she can split DNA chains, or in her case, run the country effectively.

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I think that Ms. Clinton over-states her experience in regards to her stint as First Lady.

That said, no Democrats have ever accused Laura Bush of being the one "really" in charge of the White House or made snide jokes about "President Bush and her husband". It was all well and good to jump up and down and rant about Hillary over-stepping her First Lady "duties" during the 90's and now it's a bunch of "Well, she was only First Lady! She never had any experience!"

Edited, Jan 10th 2008 12:16am by Jophiel
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Yet, interestingly, she has placed all her papers under lock and key, based on presidential privilege, leaving us all to only guess as to what role she actually played in her husband's adminstration. Not exactly a fresh start for a candidate wishing to run the country that has ostensibly suffered under a dearth of openness and transparency.

Nuttin sez her life's an open book like a lack of scrutiny of her experience. It is truely stunning that someone so politically adept can at the same time be so incredibly fumble-fingered. Mind boggling.

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#20 Jan 10 2008 at 4:18 AM Rating: Good
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In all seriousness, it amazes me that people are willing to consider Hillary as a viable candidate considering her prediliction for secrecy and exclusiveness. Everything about her suggests she would operate a presidential administration as furtively as she possibly could-- something that should be anathema to freedom loving open-to-the-media cherishing Lefties. Can you say Nixonian? Can you say virtual Patriot Act when discussing her policy decisions?

The woman practically exudes loathing of the press and hates to compromise in any way. Gridlock coupled with paranoia is a recipe for disaster,
What, so it's okay to vote for a man who's a misleading, uncompromising ignoramus but not a woman who may share those traits? That's just sexist. Smiley: lol


Honestly after Dubya, even Romney would be an upgrade.

Edited, Jan 10th 2008 6:18am by Atomicflea
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Totem wrote:
Yet, interestingly, she has placed all her papers under lock and key, based on presidential privilege, leaving us all to only guess as to what role she actually played in her husband's adminstration. Not exactly a fresh start for a candidate wishing to run the country that has ostensibly suffered under a dearth of openness and transparency.
Now you're switching the argument from experience to transparency.

I'm just pointing out the Republican shift from "Haha! She's running everything!" to "She ain't never run nothin'!" Maybe if you guys spent less time in the 90's accusing her before the country of being the real president, you wouldn't have to worry about her campaign today.
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#22 Jan 10 2008 at 7:06 AM Rating: Good
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No, I am pointing out that if she has so much experience then why is she afraid to let the public see what she did in getting it? It's one thing to say you have earned the right to be up there on the campaign stump due to her proximity to the Oval Office, but if we can't actually examine what it is that she did beyond assuming she served tea and cookies, then for all practical purposes she doesn't actually have any more time under her belt than Obama does as a senator.

Thanks, but scrutiny, by both the media and John Q. Public is the acid test for such claims.

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I previously agreed that, in my opinion, her claims at First Lady experience are overstated.

Just chuckling at the fact that, without the constant 90's Pubbie screeds against her, she wouldn't be able to get away with claiming that experience now. She doesn't need to prove it -- the Republicans already laid the groundwork in making sure we knew it was a "fact".
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