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#77 Dec 28 2007 at 11:37 PM Rating: Decent
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DaimenKain wrote:
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I don't meat something like ************* Edited, Dec 28th 2007 7:39pm by Deadgye


Just to bring back Amateur Psychology, I believe you call this a freudian slip.

Edited, Dec 28th 2007 9:17pm by DaimenKain


I call it mild dyslexia and ADHD, but that works too.
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#78 Dec 29 2007 at 12:06 AM Rating: Decent
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Deadgye wrote:
DaimenKain wrote:
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I don't meat something like ************* Edited, Dec 28th 2007 7:39pm by Deadgye


Just to bring back Amateur Psychology, I believe you call this a freudian slip.

Edited, Dec 28th 2007 9:17pm by DaimenKain


I call it mild dyslexia and ADHD, but that works too.
Whatever you want to call it, it was pretty funny.



To the topic at hand, the way in which the documents were obtained does kind of bother me. I read the second link, and found this excerpt to be quite...well, odd.
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The school district had been investigating Stelmack since Dec. 14, after faculty members complained about Stelmack's level of affection shown toward some students. He has been suspended with pay since that investigation began.
Now, I remember my high school days, and even a good chunk of my middle school ones. Back in the tenth grade, I had a tough time with a girl whom I had been seeing for quite some time. My principal, a lady by the name of Anne Flag, used to go as far as to pull me out of classes that I had with the girl so that I wouldn't have to sit next to her. (And in my school, we almost always got seated in alphabetical order. I'm not going to post my last name, but for the sake of argument, let's say mine is "Pike." She was "Pikee.") This woman was really helpful towards me during the entire time, all while not being anything more than that.

I later went on to marry said girl. We've been together for 8 of my 23 years on this Earth. I imagine without Mrs. Flag, we'd have probably been at one another's throats and ended it years ago.

What I'm basically trying to say is, putting someone under investigation for being what sounds to me like a good principal is a little *****. I'm not going to say there's definitely more to it, but there most certainly seems to be a good possibility of it.
#79 Dec 29 2007 at 3:05 AM Rating: Default
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I'd think his "actus rea" whatever that means is a circular argument--the end result would have to be defined as kid **** in order for him to have succeeded in his intentions. But that definition is what appears to be in doubt. Even if he succeeded in jacking off to it, he was either jacking off to the bodies (regular ****), the kid's faces (not ****), or the combination in his mind (mental ****?). Once again btw: http://www.flsenate.gov/Statutes/i.../ch0847.htm


That link however clearly states that possession alone would be enough for at least a second degree charge. The only thing that matters in this case would be the definition of child ****. From that site:

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"Child pornography" means any image depicting a minor engaged in sexual conduct.


Full nudity would be included in the sexual conduct.("actual lewd exhibition of the genitals")

So a kids head is placed on a sexual conduct picture. And as far as I know, a kid's head is also a depiction of a minor.


An interesting case for a lawyer I suppose.
#80 Dec 29 2007 at 10:44 AM Rating: Default
So, to you guys, which is worse:

Pasting kids' heads on nude adult bodies

or

Pasting adults' heads on nude kid bodies
#81 Dec 29 2007 at 11:00 AM Rating: Decent
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I think the prosecution has a case as it has the required elements of "mens rea" in that he intended to create the pictures for kid **** use and "actus reus" that he took the pictures of the kids and pasted them on the nakey pictures.


Wow, Latin, you must be right. Oh wait.

No. Because "kid **** use" is prima facie legal, so the action of creating something to facilitate a legal act, has to be illegal independently, which this *clearly* isn't. Here's the case law, I have no idea where you morons contrive legal opinions from when a 10 second google search would prevent you from looking like idiots.

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=US&vol=000&invol=00-795

Give reading the actual law a shot before pronouncing opinions on things you don't even vaguely understand.
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#82 Dec 29 2007 at 11:05 AM Rating: Default
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I think the prosecution has a case as it has the required elements of "mens rea" in that he intended to create the pictures for kid **** use and "actus reus" that he took the pictures of the kids and pasted them on the nakey pictures.


Wow, Latin, you must be right. Oh wait.

No. Because "kid **** use" is prima facie legal, so the action of creating something to facilitate a legal act, has to be illegal independently, which this *clearly* isn't. Here's the case law, I have no idea where you morons contrive legal opinions from when a 10 second google search would prevent you from looking like idiots.

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=US&vol=000&invol=00-795

Give reading the actual law a shot before pronouncing opinions on things you don't even vaguely understand.


I'd prefer to not defend a pedophile regardless of what the law says, but hey go for it.
#83 Dec 29 2007 at 11:08 AM Rating: Decent
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I'd prefer to not defend a @#%^phile regardless of what the law says, but hey go for it.


I agree. We should selectively determine who is entitled to rights and protection under the law by how we feel about them based on arbitrary labels. That way we can just generate easy to red lists of second and third class citizens who are only entitled to 3/5th of what real people are.
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#84 Dec 29 2007 at 11:13 AM Rating: Default
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I'd prefer to not defend a @#%^phile regardless of what the law says, but hey go for it.


I agree. We should selectively determine who is entitled to rights and protection under the law by how we feel about them based on arbitrary labels. That way we can just generate easy to red lists of second and third class citizens who are only entitled to 3/5th of what real people are.


Sounds good to me.

But hey, you defend the guy, when he gets off on a technicality, I hope he chooses to move into your neighborhood. I'm sure you'll let him play with YOUR kids or relatives, right?

#85 Dec 29 2007 at 11:24 AM Rating: Decent
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Sounds good to me.


Until they pass a law against being and idiot. Then where would you be?
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#86 Dec 29 2007 at 1:52 PM Rating: Good
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Smasharoo wrote:

Nearly all naked images of adults is of "young looking" bodies.


You should watch more ****. Srsly.
#87 Dec 29 2007 at 3:20 PM Rating: Decent
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#88 Dec 29 2007 at 3:22 PM Rating: Good
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But hey, you defend the guy, when he gets off on a technicality, I hope he chooses to move into your neighborhood. I'm sure you'll let him play with YOUR kids or relatives, right?


As comfortably as I feel being around a straight woman. Hey; I meet the criteria for being sexually desirable to a straight woman, therefore we will necessarily have sex!

Goddamn... I've never heard such a confusion of the meaning of a word in my life. Learn to seperate necessary and sufficient conditions; learn the distinctions between some and all. Why do you feel that an individual who enjoys sexual pleasure from the idea of a child's body is going to be after every fucking child? To even harbor such distrust is as idiotic as a male hating homosexuals because he believes that he will be the object of desire for each and every one of them.

No, it is easier for you to live in a world with nice, abstract categories which can tell you when something is dangerous and evil, and to be destroyed. As easy as this is (and even helpful occasionally, for use in everyday life), using such things where the subject matter is weird and compilicated is about as useful as solving a jigsaw puzzle by rolling around the peices in glue, then mashing it together and proclaiming, "tada!" It fails in every way to encompass the problem in a meaningful way.

Even aside from all of that, aside from the unqualified prejudices, and the confusion, and the lack of empathy, there remains the question of the purpose of the law. And every individual is and ought to be entitled to the best possible legal representation and logical argument for his/her defense availible. If you begin to throw that away, then you dismiss the entire tradition of enlightened, liberal thinking which is the basis of our country.

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That way we can just generate easy to red lists of second and third class citizens who are only entitled to 3/5th of what real people are.


At least he can only judge 1/12th of the defendant!

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So, to you guys, which is worse:
Pasting kids' heads on nude adult bodies
or
Pasting adults' heads on nude kid bodies


Is this a serious question?

Edited, Dec 30th 2007 1:25am by Pensive
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