Bhutto DeadFollow

Me too.

Nexa

Same here, really bad news, and Bhutto seemed the rare politician with Pakistan's best interests forefront.

Never thought we should've gone with Pakistan as a stage for Afghanistan instead of the northern former soviet states. The US is in a bad position of supporting a virtual dictator, criticizing said dictator, and of course trying to locate bin Laden or pressuring Pakistan to do the same (well I guess that third thing is pretty much forgotten nowadays). All with old school internal strife, local politics, taliban support, etc. In short **** Musharref.

That she was shot after the bombing smells like an inside job to me, either her people or security forces. Anyway, all bad and it sucks.

Shot *before* the bombing.

I do believe Bhutto's two administrations were chock full of corruption and human rights abuses in the way of murders, torture and dissapearances. However it was a lovely novelty having a beautiful female evil tyrant for a change.

And just because I'm dubious about her politics doesn't make it any nicer that she got assassinated, and people around her died too. That's just awful. Let alone it can't do any good to Pakistan's long road to some actual real democracy.

Edited, Dec 27th 2007 9:26am by Aripyanfar

I kinda went along with that too, but the seeming support she received on her return kind runs counter to those charges (which she claimed all along were politically motivated).

Yeah and that's probably the saddest part.

I like Samira's analogy. This is a big dose of fuel for the smoldering fires.

..it's kinda unsettling.

Ah, youth. Uneducated, ignorant, twatwafflish youth.

GFY, thanks.

Oh Shit

Nobby said



And that just about sums up that situation in a nutshell.

I cried when I read this story.

Me too, there's nothing worse than when a corrupt power hungry would be dictator dies.

I'm pretty sure I won $15 from someone since she didn't make it through the year.

Have no fear, we'll just pump money back in and it'll be back to Al Queda hiding, heroin growing, woman burning business as usual. Having nuclear weapons means never having to say your sorry.

And once again Smash goes for the homesy simplistic take.

Was she corrupt? I'm not convinced, but couldn't rule it out. I'm pretty sure her hubby is bent as a $9 bill.

Would she have been a dictator? On paper, no, but like her dad, she'd prolly have imposed a pretty tight regime.

I do think, however, she was the best chance that Pakistan had of stabilising its relationship with India, Bangladesh, Afghanistan, China & Russia. Not to mention the Waziris, Sylhetis and Kashmiris.

I'm not pandering to the populist view that democracy is the be-all and end-all; in some circumstances democracy ain't ready yet. In this case, she could have mobilised the moderates & the military against the minority clerics that Musharaff's been cOck-sucking these last 2 years.

I've been to hear her speak a number of times, read many of her pieces, and I'm pissed off. Now Musharaff can carry on nodding the Mudrassars through while winking at GW Bush.

A sad day.

And in the 70s and 80s, she was doable

Name someone who's led PPP whose name wasn't Bhutto?

I agree that the odds of anyone aligning the military, electorate and clergy is low, but with this power vacuum, we may see a nucular display a bit earlier.

Name someone who's led PPP whose name wasn't Bhutto?

Yeah, I was being gracious.

Yeah, I never heard another name..evAr..in association with the PPP.

That's kinda what stinks about this.

Whether she was a power hungry dictator or not is irrelevant. She was it. It was like all the eggs were in the Bhutto basket, now blown to smithereens. There's no way this can be good for Pakistan, it's peoples or it's foriegn relations and MANY ways that it go bad.

Maybe Musharaff can retain some semblance of control...but this made the odds considerabley worse.

Not too mention the Bush administration has already declared Al Queada responsible...no telling what kind of hair-brained schemes our administration may come up with in response.